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First of all, I’d like to thank you for a thought provoking post.Rather, I feel for many women who are in positions of responsibility and power, that we are often viewed in more masculine terms and our positions often call for us to exercise our more masculine traits. Given we are not the traditional version or stereotype of a woman, we are seen as 'The Bitch' - hardly a sexual creature. Moreover, for women to rise to power and achieve a level of authority, we often must subjugate our emotions to be perceived as more rational. This is really the repression of the feminine, not the sexual.
So for me, this has never been a thing.First, it validates the woman as a woman. Being 'taken,' for me, signals that I can drive a man wild with my feminine and sexual prowess. That is reaffirming - I'm not just an intelligent, controlling, ice-princess.
This part of it I can very much relate to though.Second, the 'forcefulness' removes the mental and emotional constraints that powerful women in their work-a-day worlds must operate within. When a man overpowers me, he breaks through and shatters the constraints I have carefully constructed.
The shame and guilt part are not part of it for me really.Because it is a forceful act, I needn't feel self-reproachment or shame or guilt - after all, I was overpowered.
Again, I can very much understand this way of thinking about it, but I don’t quite relate to it like that.it would be incommensurate and threatening to my self-image to just willfully submit to a man. However, if I am powerful enough to drive a worthy male, dare I say opponent (because everyone and everything is a challenge), over the edge with lust
If only there were some socially acceptable sign that said "put your hands on me" or "push me against the wall and fuck me hard." lolLucky men... they can live a lifetime deciphering the enchanting mysterious differences between women.
Well,... that's part of the fun of it.Lucky men... they can live a lifetime deciphering the enchanting mysterious differences between women.
The industrial revolution, at least in the US (and probably Europe, but especially the US) beginning in the 1830s and continuing until the 1970s (in the US), changed family structures to emphasize the nuclear family and the "separate spheres" to create the cult of domesticity, aka "housewife." (though the term "housewife" is from middle English) This occurred mainly in suburban middle class homes and maybe with the more upwardly mobile working class. Families outside cities, those still operating within an agrarian system, tended to have more blurred roles. The husband and wife worked together, and the work was usually near the home. Extended families were more the norm for practical reasons. With hunter-gather societies, which preceded and then coexisted other systems, you would find more bifurcation with the roles: men going to hunt or fight while women focus on gathering and more domestic tasks.I actually think it is an exception in history and society to have women not being responsible adults working outside the immediate family.
Organizing households and village life, leading hired staff or younger and lower in the hierarchy peers, has required women to wield power and lead throughout history.
Having the resources for supporting a pure housewife without having too much land an goods to need more people at work is an exception to the norm, historically and globally speaking.
Official roles as in cook being in charge of the kitchen, the houskeeper in charge of the house staff and the lady of the house in charge of running the whole household, ladies in waiting etc sure have existed in some form or other and the less official of being the Vicars wife, commanding officers wife etc did come with social duties that were considered.Your idea hinges a little on the meaning of "power." Influence is a form of power, and one can easily see how women, even in the most patriarchal society, employed tremendous power through their influence on many aspects of life, if not from most official roles in government or business.
excellent points...Official roles as in cook being in charge of the kitchen, the houskeeper in charge of the house staff and the lady of the house in charge of running the whole household, ladies in waiting etc sure have existed in some form or other and the less official of being the Vicars wife, commanding officers wife etc did come with social duties that were considered.
In my parts of Europe the upper class ladies often did take over running the country estates when the men were off fighting somewhere.
Laws here also did grant women rather extensive rights when it came to inheritance and property ownership up until the mid eighteenth century or so when legislation was changed so husbands could easier access women’s property to be able to pay taxes and take credits with banks etc.
I’d say that these roles would entail about as much telling others what to do as modern day middle management and probably the same kind of ”joys” from their form of upper management.
Very few people exist outside a hierarchy and of those of us within one (or several), very few are at the absolute top or bottom.
..exactly why I like to put a blindfold on her.The great unknow is a fabulous aphrodisiac. Add it some rough play and sensory deprevation and you have a delightful mix of conflicting emotions and anticipation. It has me tinging just imagining the vision
AS a woman i am more than surprised that the men feel this way also. I would not think the guys i have dated would submit like that..It is something i would have to see first hand to believe.I've only met one man in my life who gave the forcefully-treated-sexually prospect a pass. Most people like letting the other person do the work of driving the encounter, getting them off, doing things *to* them. The fact that I enjoy doing the work as much as I do makes me a minority. The dirty secret isn't how many women like this (almost all do at some point) it's that almost all men do.
This!I have always liked a man to take what he wants in bed, if you want to fuck me from behind roll me over and pull my ass up. If you want me to suck it grab some hair and shove it in my mouth, I’ll get the idea! Can’t be doing with, can we try this? Do you mind if I do this? I like a man to take what he wants. Walking towards me with a hard on as I lay on the bed knowing I’m going to get it no matter what is always a turn on. As is holding my arms down as I’m fucked, that always ends in orgasm for me. One lover used to tie me to the bed and fuck me, once he tied me and blindfolded me and let his friend fuck me first. I came on both cocks, thing is I knew his friend and knew it was him fucking me. Another time it was rather different but I don’t think that’s a story for on here.
I think it would take me way longer than a lifetime to accomplish that, if ever! (and that's the way it should be).Lucky men... they can live a lifetime deciphering the enchanting mysterious differences between women.
yes it has to be outside of my marriageI would love this. But sigh, it is not in the cards for me.
So hot! If that other story is not for here, for where could it be?I have always liked a man to take what he wants in bed, if you want to fuck me from behind roll me over and pull my ass up. If you want me to suck it grab some hair and shove it in my mouth, I’ll get the idea! Can’t be doing with, can we try this? Do you mind if I do this? I like a man to take what he wants. Walking towards me with a hard on as I lay on the bed knowing I’m going to get it no matter what is always a turn on. As is holding my arms down as I’m fucked, that always ends in orgasm for me. One lover used to tie me to the bed and fuck me, once he tied me and blindfolded me and let his friend fuck me first. I came on both cocks, thing is I knew his friend and knew it was him fucking me. Another time it was rather different but I don’t think that’s a story for on here.
mmmmm! My dream date!I LOVE being taken forcefully, especially with my hands and legs tied.
Damn! Wish we were neighbors!!I have always liked a man to take what he wants in bed, if you want to fuck me from behind roll me over and pull my ass up. If you want me to suck it grab some hair and shove it in my mouth, I’ll get the idea! Can’t be doing with, can we try this? Do you mind if I do this? I like a man to take what he wants. Walking towards me with a hard on as I lay on the bed knowing I’m going to get it no matter what is always a turn on. As is holding my arms down as I’m fucked, that always ends in orgasm for me. One lover used to tie me to the bed and fuck me, once he tied me and blindfolded me and let his friend fuck me first. I came on both cocks, thing is I knew his friend and knew it was him fucking me. Another time it was rather different but I don’t think that’s a story for on here.
Beautifully put! This resonates very strongly with my own experiences. In my day to day life, I’m the serious, responsible one who gets shit done. This often translates into me being the “ bitch”.If I may, I don't believe the foundation must lie in a Puritanical upbringing or socialization of sex as taboo. Rather, I feel for many women who are in positions of responsibility and power, that we are often viewed in more masculine terms and our positions often call for us to exercise our more masculine traits. Given we are not the traditional version or stereotype of a woman, we are seen as 'The Bitch' - hardly a sexual creature. Moreover, for women to rise to power and achieve a level of authority, we often must subjugate our emotions to be perceived as more rational. This is really the repression of the feminine, not the sexual.
This introduces a dual need for sexual submission or being 'forcefully taken.' First, it validates the woman as a woman. Being 'taken,' for me, signals that I can drive a man wild with my feminine and sexual prowess. That is reaffirming - I'm not just an intelligent, controlling, ice-princess.
Second, the 'forcefulness' removes the mental and emotional constraints that powerful women in their work-a-day worlds must operate within. When a man overpowers me, he breaks through and shatters the constraints I have carefully constructed. Because it is a forceful act, I needn't feel self-reproachment or shame or guilt - after all, I was overpowered.
Given my carefully constructed persona, developed with great tenacity and grit over a long period of time, it would be incommensurate and threatening to my self-image to just willfully submit to a man. However, if I am powerful enough to drive a worthy male, dare I say opponent (because everyone and everything is a challenge), over the edge with lust that he must simply rip the clothing from my body, throw me to the bed, and fuck the living daylights out of me... then I can still maintain my dignity when I wipe the cum from my tits.
Thank you. Glad to know I'm not the only one who feels this way!Beautifully put! This resonates very strongly with my own experiences. In my date to day life, I’m the serious, responsible one who gets shit done. This often translates into me being the “ bitch”.
In the bedroom I really like being overpowered. Not necessarily being taken forcefully, just held down and used. I really get off on witnessing a guy being aroused by me. It’s almost like my arousal feeds off his.