Sean Renaud
The West Coast Pop
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You are a bit all over the place here......
My suggestion was not to take over jobs of other people...it was to help those whom truly just need the help. For example, with the plumber you spoke of....if someone on welfare is having plumbing issues and cannot afford to hire the plumber, having someone, like a neighbor, or could be called in to help would be a great thing. It would give them a sense of purpose, which would be really great.
So your idea is that if a poor person has plumbing skills (unlikely but possible) that they should be available to work, but only for those who can't afford a plumber? How do you plan to structure this? If these people are available to general public the downward spiral is rather predictable. Even without it it's not a good system to employ on any large scale. We want to pump money into those neighborhoods not just keep the status quo or worse.
I guess I am not understanding your position. Do you just want those on welfare to sit back and just receive checks and do nothing? I hear what you are saying about unemployment...but if the jobs are not there, how is that going to be changed?
Just because I know there is a problem doesn't mean I have the answer. Doesn't even mean that I have positively identified the problem, though I'm fairly certain I've got the problem rather well mapped out here.
The easiest way to change the jobs that aren't there is to pick something, we can debate over WHAT but pick something and raise the bar for all Americans where such a thing is simply adjust the market. The idea that everybody should be working was such a stupid idea that we really didn't adopt it until relatively recently.
What do you suggest to fix it? I was only suggesting that giving those who do receive welfare, and pay no taxes (like income) be given the chance to keep some dignity and have life purpose......
Most of them are already employed. You're over looking that even using the U6 (which includes retirees and students) unemployment is at no more than 16% and by the slightly more rational U3 it's under ten. So simple math tells you that 80% of these people (roughly) are already employed. You've got a solution in search of a problem. It's not that I'm not concerned about the final bit but we have much bigger problems to solve than that.
For the moment I suggest the same thing I suggest we do about terrorism. Ignore it and focus our energies on something that actually matters.