Exploring sexuality

[Ramlick]

Here's a question for you:

Are women more likely than men to try having sex with someone of the same sex? My sense is that women might be more likely to experiment with homosexuality. Any thoughts?

I'd like to offer my opinion on why later...

 

[Guest]

I think so. The socialization boys and young men experience as they grow up tends to make men of most cultures homophobic, except proffessional sports stars who like to touch each other's ass.

 

[Guest]

 

[Guest]

Will you use double headded 18 incher? No, make that 36 incher.

 

[ash0171]

emerald eye has hit the nail on the head. boys are socialized in one way and women in another way. social pressures tell us that homosexuality among women is acceptable while its not among men

ash

 

[Ramlick]

Is it socialization, or is it hereditary?

The opinion so far is that women are more apt to try homosexuality (although this is far from scientific). I'm sure there is data on the subject. But if it's true, I'm not so sure it's socialization only. I'm sure there's something biological about it too. Something in the nature of women vs. men. I'm reading a fascinating book on the subject of human nature right now called "The Blank Slate" by Steven Pinker. His hypothesis is that hereditary plays a larger role in who we turn out to be than many are comfortable with accepting.

 

[*bratcat*]

Re: Is it socialization, or is it hereditary?

 

[Guest]

emerald eye has hit the nail on the head. boys are socialized in one way and women in another way. social pressures tell us that homosexuality among women is acceptable while its not among men

ash

Post number 18 and already ignoring me?

Alright. Which Lit old timer are you?

 

[SGTBIGDOG420]

I think women are more apt to explore becouse of the nurturing(sp) aspect of there genitic makeup. I.E if one is feeling down becouse of a poor sex life a woman will feel more inclined to help out where as a man will just make jokes and ridicule his friends.

 

[glamorilla]

ramlick...rambrat...

rambrat...ramlick.

i don't know.

there's just something i *really* like about squishing those two names together....

 

[penguindance]

 

[glamorilla]

we'll have to pants him immediately!

 

[penguindance]

 

[Shadowann2]

This is one of the few sterotypes in society that go in favor of women. I think women are more likely to experiment with other women because it's ok in today's society. It's not ok for guys. I a woman tells a man that she has messed around with another woman, they think she is hot. If a man tells a woman he has messed around with another guy, she generaly gets grossed out and is no longer interested in him sexualy.

 

[sexy-girl]

it might be true that there is more homophobia directed against men then women ... but anyone who says there isn't much or no homophobia directed against lesbians is just wrong

try applying for a job as a teacher and saying you're a lesbian ... just a small example

 

[penguindance]

 

[Guest]

 

[superlittlegirl]

I think it has less to do with socialization, and more to do with the fact that ass-fucking is stigmatized as dirty and painful.

When a woman "experiments" with another woman, it's generally a lot of kissing, licking, and maybe some fingering and dildo action if she's feeling very adventurous. Anal is rarely an issue with first time lesbian sex, unless that is a previously established interest or proclivity.

On the other hand, men seem to equate gay sex with ass-fucking, and more than a few men I have talked to express serious trepidation about taking it up the ass. Despite the fact that gay sex can include just as much kissing, licking, and other sweet stuff as lesbian sex does, it's not the first image that leaps to mind when the topic is raised.

Does this seem plausible?

 

[superlittlegirl]

But, Chilled Vodka did bring up a very good point. Boys are generally socialized to believe that homosexuality is wrong, perhaps for the underlying reasons I just described, and perhaps for other reasons.

I wonder, though, if this is not because boys are socialized to be more aggressive sexually than girls are? Girls are taught to be more or less passive, sexually, so it seems less necessary to enforce as many boundaries on same-sex sexual behaviors. Everyone is so concerned with girls protecting their virginity that same-sex play pales in comparison. And since most people incorrectly perceive lesbians as being excessively masculine, little effort is put into warning feminine girls about the "dangers" of lesbian sex.

All speculation here, but fun, nonetheless.

 

[superlittlegirl]

<snip>It's not ok for guys. I a woman tells a man that she has messed around with another woman, they think she is hot. If a man tells a woman he has messed around with another guy, she generaly gets grossed out and is no longer interested in him sexualy.

I must disagree most emphatically. I am not turned off if a lover tells me he has experimented with other men, and it would certainly NOT make me get grossed out and lose interest. In fact, I would find him more desirable as a lover. A man who is bisexual or has done some degree of same-sex experimentation is much more likely to understand my bisexuality, and be less threatened by it.

 

[hatara]

A lot has to do with who your friends are also. Men and boys seem to have a problem when their friends tell them that they like other men. Women are more open to discussions about it and exploring their options. That is with people that are bi sexual or have done some exploring.

I think that people that are homosexual are born homosexuals and it's just a part of who they are. I have known people that have had loved ones that sent them to therapy thinking they can change them. That isn't love it's ignorance and cruel. Love is based on who they are not who you want them to be.

 

[Guest]

Shut up, you. Or, swift-footed, I will pierce your trepidation with godlike, long-shadowed spear.

 

[superlittlegirl]

You talkin' to me? Huh? You wanna piece of this?

Bring it, trepidation boy!

Shut up, you. Or, swift-footed, I will pierce your trepidation with godlike, long-shadowed spear.

 

[Shadowann2]

I agree with almost everything you said Superlittlegirl. I didn't say that ALL women wouldn't be interested in a guy who has had same sex experiences, but there are quite a few who would. When my husband and I first got together he was afraid to explore is desire for anal sex with me because he thought I would think he way gay. There is a definate stigma attached to anal sex.
I also think that it has to do with penetration. Men with many sexual partners are "studs" but women are "sluts". Why? I think it is because a woman is penetrated. Her body is entered and she is concidered somehow "dirty" or "used". But because the man does the penetrating and his body is never entered, he is still clean. I think that it translates to homosexuality also. Sex between men usualy involves penetration. When it is between women, the penetration only occurs with fingers or toys. THis is just my opinion. I will not be offended if everyone disagrees with me.

 

[perks]

Here's a question for you:

Are women more likely than men to try having sex with someone of the same sex? My sense is that women might be more likely to experiment with homosexuality. Any thoughts?

I'd like to offer my opinion on why later...

more likely? I don't think it's more prevalent than female experimentation, I just think it is more hidden.