Do Republicans appreciate what losing Roe V Wade will do to them?

[Rightguide]

Alito continues:

"We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision, including the one on which the defenders of Roe and Casey now chiefly rely—the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. That provision has been held to guarantee some rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution, but any such right must be “deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition” and “implicit in the concept of ordered liberty.” Washington v. Glucksberg, 521 U. S. 702, 721 (1997) (internal quotation marks omitted). The right to abortion does not fall within this category. Until the latter part of the 20th century, such a right was entirely unknown in American law. Indeed, when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, three quarters of the States made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy."

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Alito continues:

"We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision, including the one on which the defenders of Roe and Casey now chiefly rely—the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. That provision has been held to guarantee some rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution, but any such right must be “deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition” and “implicit in the concept of ordered liberty.” Washington v. Glucksberg, 521 U. S. 702, 721 (1997) (internal quotation marks omitted). The right to abortion does not fall within this category. Until the latter part of the 20th century, such a right was entirely unknown in American law. Indeed, when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, three quarters of the States made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy."

Brilliant.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Wait, why do you think convicted felons and little kids should have guns?

I never said that they should. I think they should be denied "the right to choose" to have guns.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I never said that they should. I think they should be denied "the right to choose" to have guns.

Well that’s gun control.

 

[Rotadom]

We won a return to the rule of law instead of consensus by mob feelings.

I've said many many many many times that Roe was poorly supported legally. There is sufficient protection in the Constitution for abortion in the 4th Amendment but no one could figure out how to argue it, either when Roe was decided or since.

For those who insist that abortion isn't mentioned in the Constitution, please point out the words "semi automatic" in the 2nd Amendment and I'll agree with your position. On second thought, don't bother trying because the point here is that modern advances and inventions are still covered by the Bill of Rights and specific enumeration of specific items isn't required for the Right to attach.

It's for that reason that Abortion is within the 4th Amendment's "secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects" clause. If the towering minds which infest our legal system actually knew what the Constitution says, they'd have known that. Had they, Roe would still be solid precedent.

That's great but I'd rather hear from a lawyer.

 

[ll74]

The most aggregious bullshit in the roe ruling is that it says, in so many words, that rights that are not in the Constitution are not duly granted..and almost in the same breath, it says that rights (contraceptive, gay..etc) that are not in the Constitution are not targeted by this ruling.

Pick one or admit you're full of shit.

 

[phrodeau]

The abolition of Roe V Wade could result in an explosion of black children. Is that what the US (and the Republicans) want?

Let copulation thrive… to ‘t, luxury, pell mell! For I lack soldiers.
——King Lear

 

[butters]

Let copulation thrive… to ‘t, luxury, pell mell! For I lack soldiers.
——King Lear

uh huh

cannon fodder

keep 'em poor, deny them education, and watch how they'll sign up to join the army

 

[jaF0]

Less babies >> less people >> less people with guns.

Works for me.

 

[ll74]

Victory for white life

https://twitter.com/x/status/1540852015693037568

 

[YDB95]

It pays to know history.

Indeed. If you knew yours, you'd understand that as usual, your link doesn't really support your position at all.

 

[butters]

Victory for white life

https://twitter.com/x/status/1540855205406711808

 

[butters]

At a rally Saturday before the convention, Evers said: “I have seven granddaughters who are girls or young women. Yesterday they were made second-class citizens, and that’s b--------.”

Evers told the AP that he feels confident abortion will be a winning issue for his party because polls have consistently shown about 60% of Wisconsin residents support it being legal in most or all cases.

“I don’t think that a law that was written before the Civil War, or before women secured the right to vote, should be used to dictate these intimate decisions on reproductive health, period,” Evers said to applause.

Evers vowed to do whatever he can to evade the state's abortion ban that was passed in 1849 but hasn't been in effect since the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling. That includes supporting lawsuits to overturn it, not appointing district attorneys who would enforce it and offering clemency for doctors convicted under it.

Democratic Attorney General Josh Kaul, who is also up for reelection in November, reiterated at the convention Saturday that he will not investigate or prosecute anyone under what he called Wisconsin's “backwards, 19th century abortion ban.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...pc=U531&cvid=c71d8fe1ef324f2bac44fea6efbe7eaa

 

[DeluxAuto]

In a just world, all they would have "won" would be the votes they already had and they would have lost anyone with a brain who was fence-sitting.

 

[YDB95]

In a just world, all they would have "won" would be the votes they already had and they would have lost anyone with a brain who was fence-sitting.

With any luck, maybe they have. I've met a LOT of suburban Republican women who support abortion rights but voted R anyway because they wanted their taxes nice and low and believed Roe would never be overturned. They can no longer fool themselves.

 

[phrodeau]

uh huh

cannon fodder

keep 'em poor, deny them education, and watch how they'll sign up to join the army

Speaking of, military members and families are obliged to seek abortion services only from civilian sources, and thus need to adhere to laws of the state in which they’re stationed.

https://www.military.com/daily-news...iled-or-eliminated-after-fall-of-roe.html/amp

 

[Chobham]

Inflation, gas, food, unemployment now. All of it getting worse and exactly who believes that abortion is the burning question facing the nation today?

 

[jaF0]

^^^ We get it, you're a BB, now go play in traffic.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Wait, why do you think convicted felons and little kids should have guns?

No, and I never said that. I said that those who claim to be "pro life" and "pro choice" are equally hypocritical. I am neither pro life, nor am I pro choice. I am pro abortion and pro more gun control laws.

 

[rockcasbah]

According to Adrina,the CDC, web sites like slate, etc, Abortions in the USA are mainly performed on minority mothers who say they dont want the added expense of another child. ( birth control)

Since ACA, abortions have decreased because of affordable access by poor minority mothers to birth control.

Most Lit posters are white, over 50, male.

This whole topic and discussion is an excellent example of american white male supremacy in action.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

No, and I never said that. I said that those who claim to be "pro life" and "pro choice" are equally hypocritical. I am neither pro life, nor am I pro choice. I am pro abortion and pro more gun control laws.

Why do you think women have to get abortions?

 

[rockcasbah]

Why do you think women have to get abortions?

In the USA, most choose abortion as a form of birth control, for economic reasons.

What men here “think” the reasons are is irrelevant, just as your white mansplaining “feelings” are red herrings.

LitDrama. Boring.

 

[mayfly13]

Most Lit posters are white, over 50, male.

This whole topic and discussion is an excellent example of american white male supremacy in action.

Nancy Pelosi: "Such a contradiction: Yesterday the States cannot make laws governing the right to bear arms. And today they're saying th reverse: thta the States can overturn a constitutional right -- for 50 years, of having the right to choose. Their hypochrisy is outraging. ."

Brilliant comment.Someone needs to start a thread on it. I can't, I've already started one.

 

[rockcasbah]

Mike Pence Calls for National Abortion Ban​

The former vice president and other prominent Republicans are not only praising the end of Roe v. Wade but signaling bigger plans to strip women of their rights


https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mike-pence-roe-v-wade-abortion-ban-1373779/amp/

 

[JohnQuillz]

Nancy Pelosi: "Such a contradiction: Yesterday the States cannot make laws governing the right to bear arms. And today they're saying th reverse: thta the States can overturn a constitutional right -- for 50 years, of having the right to choose. Their hypochrisy is outraging. ."

Brilliant comment.Someone needs to start a thread on it. I can't, I've already started one.

There is no such Constitutional Right. In fact, abortion "rights" were snuck in wrapped in penumbra by courts wrongly "legislating from the bench."