renard_ruse
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Great point. There are restrictions on all of those things you mentioned.
Actually very limited to the point it can effectively be said there aren't really any de facto limits.
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Great point. There are restrictions on all of those things you mentioned.
I mentoned the right to have an anti aircraft missile system on my roof last week...and Iran having nukes, but the Gun Nuts think those things are "different".
They just want to be left alone to decide what's right for themselves.
This system would also work well at traffic intersections.
Even the morons are allowed to use a reductio ad absurdum (extendio?) to make the point that there are reasonable limits to most things in a free society.
We have to interact at 4 way stops, where we observe rules that keep us from killing each other...
Actually very limited to the point it can effectively be said there aren't really any de facto limits.
2004: Law Banning Magazines Holding More Than Ten Rounds Of Ammunition Expires
In 2004, ten years after it first became law, Congress allowed a provision banning possession of magazines holding more than ten rounds of ammunition to expire through a sunset provision. Brady Campaign President Paul Helmke told HuffPost that the expiration of this provision meant that Rep. Gabby Giffords's alleged shooter was able to fire off 20-plus shots without reloading (under the former law he would have had only ten).
Even the morons are allowed to use a reductio ad absurdum (extendio?) to make the point that there are reasonable limits to most things in a free society.
We have to interact at 4 way stops, where we observe rules that keep us from killing each other.
Same thing.
Most people agree there's lots of firepower out there to protect yourselves with.
And...that you're stretching your "rights" at the expense of the rest of us.
That's not the way it works in a nation that promises the pursuit of poontang and iced vodka for all.
Make it harder for those who would commit illegal acts to get guns.
And you believed the 900 number. Remember Obama's Lips were moving.
The Majority were Crips, Bloods, Sureño and Gang Bangers etc...
Cleaning up the Gene Pool Daily!
And Obama's Bitch Eric Holder is responsible for 200 plus Mexican Deaths.
So push all you want for a total ban.
Ishmael
I don't position myself as pushing for anything ....my observations are:
* your country has lots of guns at home, more than anyone else in the world
* you also have more gun deaths than any other top ten democracy
* it's been an ongoing debate for decades in the USA
The Founders are probably shaking their heads, wondering why you people are slavishly adhering to words they wrote in another time.
You have a problem, one that needs fixing.
Ahh, the core argument of the so called 'modernist.' That somehow all these modern doodads we have have profoundly changed mans relationship to man and mans relationship to his government and that anything older than 15 min. ago is of no value. Try as I might I can find zero evidence to support that notion.
Ishmael
Times change and the social contract changes with it....not thrown out, but yes it is fluid.
Slavish adherence to customs created in other times leads to decay, irrelevance and decline.
Most Catholics, for example, now accept that Mass does not need to be performed in Latin in order to be "official".
Likewise, I suggest most Americans accept that the notions of being able and having the right to defend their country, their home and themselves plays out differently on the ground today than it did 200 years ago.
There's lots of room for grays in between the black and white of the polarized discussion preferred by zealots on both sides.
Yes, they're called cycles of history. Freedom -> Dependency -> Tyranny -> Collapse -> New Tyranny -> Collapse -> Maybe a New Freedom -> ad infinitum.
There is no new form of social contract or government under the Sun.
Ishmael
Two people on lit, with different opinions, having a well thought out argument without calling each other doo doo heads....
The universe may explode.
Two people on lit, with different opinions, having a well thought out argument without calling each other doo doo heads....
The universe may explode.
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How's that? Better?
Lancey and your impotent father have a lot in common.
Lancey and your impotent father have a lot in common.