Are there any groups of women out there who form erotic fan clubs for short men?

[crazybbwgirl]

I asked my daughter about dating short men the other day. She's 5'1" and always dated tall guys and married a 6'3" man. I asked her why she was attracted to tall men.

She said it wasn't their height. She has big hands and big feet (size 9 - sorry honey!) and she always felt self conscious dating guys with smaller feet/hands than her.

 

[MichiMan]

so do you credit what i said with no possibility at all, LT? that women might say something - maybe in haste, or even believing it to be true - but act quite differently when it comes down to things, selecting their partner on an individual basis rather than a silly set of preconceived notions?

for all those women who said 'not a chance', how many of those do you suppose would change their minds if they fell in love with a person who didn't fall within limited parameters?

I was going to post something similar in LT's thread; preferences are great for filling out a questionnaire, but when it comes down to real life & eye contact is made, all the best laid plans are right out the window -kinda like impulse buying

 

[Le Jacquelope]

so do you credit what i said with no possibility at all, LT? that women might say something - maybe in haste, or even believing it to be true - but act quite differently when it comes down to things, selecting their partner on an individual basis rather than a silly set of preconceived notions?

Actions do speak louder than words.

for all those women who said 'not a chance', how many of those do you suppose would change their minds if they fell in love with a person who didn't fall within limited parameters?

Given who I see women with on a daily basis, I would wager against that 'change' occurring very often.

It's just not good money to try and find a scenario that would change a woman's mind on her height preferences.

now i know that's not the same thing as fan clubs for short guys - but if you can have fan clubs for midget-porn, anything's possible on a sliding scale

That thread is intended as a joke, you know.

 

[sophieloves]

Actions do speak louder than words.


Given who I see women with on a daily basis, I would wager against that 'change' occurring very often.

It's just not good money to try and find a scenario that would change a woman's mind on her height preferences.


That thread is intended as a joke, you know.

morning, LT

and i should hope so - re the joke, but stranger things have been found as i've browsed netland

 

[Le Jacquelope]

morning, LT

and i should hope so - re the joke, but stranger things have been found as i've browsed netland

Confidence goes a long way with women

(funny, how when a woman has confidence issues, guys don't hold it against them)

but if she says she wants a man who's taller than her, you'd be better off betting she'd change her mind and becoming bisexual, than betting on her changing her mind and dating a short guy.

I bet you if they did a credible survey, more women are bisexual.

 

[hiddenleaf]

I would be willing to bet all three were confident, secure in themselves and made you comfortable when you were with them.

Insecurity is a wicked thing. Some men are so insecure, they have to catalog things to be insecure about, just to keep it under control.

The "short man" insecurity is a common one. It supposes for every inch in height a man grows, there is larger group of women who will find him attractive. What is really at work here is the idea, "I have so little to offer, if I was a little taller, it would be an improvement". It doesn't matter how tall a man actually is, because if he has "short man insecurity", he will thank God he is not any shorter than he is, because any loss of height would mean he had nothing to offer a potential mate. Its a sad judgment on the woman who finally accepts him. She is the one who had to settle for him, because of her own physical defects, could not get a taller man.

Height is not the problem here. Its a sad attempt to take reponsibility away from himself and place it on the woman, who rejected him. He sits there going over his list of things which can't be changed, not tall enough, not rich enough, not black enough, etc. Its not his fault she want consider him so it must be hers.

The confident man, of any height does not waste time on the women who don't want him, whatever the reason might be. He just noticed a woman across the room who just smiled in his general direction and he is going to go introduce himself.

The last thing he is worried about is whether or not there are women forming clubs to worship men his height and shorter.

I think you've hit the nail on the head here. Well said.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Once again, let's revisit exactly how it is that Bronzeage is wrong.


Bronzeage says:

Height is not the problem here. Its a sad attempt to take reponsibility away from himself and place it on the woman, who rejected him. He sits there going over his list of things which can't be changed, not tall enough, not rich enough, not black enough, etc. Its not his fault she want consider him so it must be hers.

If a woman says height is an issue with her, his statement is factually wrong.

We have several examples of women saying that height is an issue with them:

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=24485551&postcount=96

I'm 5'7" and have always prefered someone my height or taller. Doesn't matter how much taller, just not shorter. Shorter would make me feel like mom being out with a child.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=24486640&postcount=99

I am tall, I want a tall male.
simple as that.
and I find it more manly, more attractive to my tastes.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=24486676&postcount=100

Short men make me feel manly, and I hate that.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=24481749&postcount=49

I'm 5'10.
I tower over people your height. I'm also fat. Which means that I would look like a mountain next to you.
That being said, part of it is complete vanity- I don't like being bigger than my partner.
The other thing, is that I like to be able to snuggle in my man's arms, and feel like he can protect me.
The last guy I dated who was your height, I ended up throwing across a room once, because he wouldn't stop tickling me. I didn't quite MEAN to throw him across the room, but it wasn't difficult- I'm strong, he was small.
*shrug*
My honey's 6'5.

It is impossible for this to be an issue of me needing someone to agree with me.

Agreement is not needed for a truth to be established.

The truth is, many women have an issue with height, and have clearly said they will not date short men.

The truth contradicts Bronzeage's statement.


So far, Bronzeage has, in being true to his character, avoided this basic procession of facts - namely, what he said, and what was said by other women that contradicted him - and instead hid behind ad homs, evasion, and repeated attempts to change the subject matter.

But the facts still disagree with him.

You can either go with opinion or facts. Facts are rational. Opinions in contradiction to facts are delusion.

There is no error in what I just said... so Bronzeage will just have to look at me with his telescope turned backwards and play the "shorty" card and the "LT likes to argue" card while steadfastly avoiding the factual contradictions presented against his statement.

Quite simply, Bronzeage, you've shot yourself in the head and you're going to keep doing it because you don't want others thinking you realized how wrong your aim is.

 

[Missdemeanour]

I have never been with a guy shorter than me and I dont know why? I guess its the 'odd looks' you'd get with a short guy and a tall woman (Im 5'11)

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I have never been with a guy shorter than me and I dont know why? I guess its the 'odd looks' you'd get with a short guy and a tall woman (Im 5'11)

<bronzeage>And it's the guy's fault, not yours.</bronzeage>

 

[Missdemeanour]

<bronzeage>And it's the guy's fault, not yours.</bronzeage>

No its my fault for caring what people think I guess but thats my prerogative

 

[hiddenleaf]

So it's a short man's responsibility that these women won't date him, and not theirs?

Bronzeage's words do not agree with reality. I don't know how much clearer one can make it than bringing up clear examples of women who flatly reject shorter men.

At some point you have to stop telling men these fairy tales and get with reality.

Huh. I can't speak for the women you just quoted.... Bronzeage's words agreed perfectly with MY reality, which is that I don't mind at all if a man is short but do mind if he goes around with that "o noes i'm so unattractive, pity me" attitude.

 

[crazybbwgirl]

Confidence goes a long way with women
(funny, how when a woman has confidence issues, guys don't hold it against them).

Maybe because some men are attracted to 'helpless', weak women? They have that "I'll protect you and take care of you" thing?

Why do you insist on making every womanly trait into a slam against men? Some things just are. Not everything is a deep conspiracy against men.

 

[bronzeage]

I think you've hit the nail on the head here. Well said.

Insecure men have to have a reason, which it beyond their control. If a woman doesn't like him, it can't be something wrong with him, it has to be her deficiencey.

An insecure man could be 5'11, wish he were taller and thank God he is not 5'6".

He will forever blame women for his problems and demand equal treatment to compensate for his inadequacies. That is, if he ever gets up the nerve to talk to a woman.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Insecure men have to have a reason, which it beyond their control. If a woman doesn't like him, it can't be something wrong with him, it has to be her deficiencey.

An insecure man could be 5'11, wish he were taller and thank God he is not 5'6".

He will forever blame women for his problems and demand equal treatment to compensate for his inadequacies. That is, if he ever gets up the nerve to talk to a woman.

You keep repeating that, but I have provided you four examples right off hand of real women who have told you in no uncertain terms that there is no way in hell they're going to date short men.

You have, as of yet, failed to show how a short man is to blame for this:
http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=24486676&postcount=100

Now, you look pretty awesome to people who don't look at facts and challenge you with them, but so far you've swerved mighty far and wide to avoid me on this issue.

Is this an example of a man's insecurity? Or this?


A man has a God given right to demand equal treatment, to have his inadequacies looked over just as her similar inadequacies are. You utterly lack the power, despite all your efforts to the contrary, to deprive him of that right.

He exercises that right by refusing to date or be associated with women who have inadequacies (being short) and expect men to cover up for them (by being taller).

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Maybe because some men are attracted to 'helpless', weak women? They have that "I'll protect you and take care of you" thing?

Why do you insist on making every womanly trait into a slam against men? Some things just are. Not everything is a deep conspiracy against men.

I'm sure you've seen plenty of women complain about guys saying "I avoid fat women or older women or mothers, etc.", right?

I mean, take me to any magazine rack and twirl me around blindfolded and I bet you I can stick out my hand and point to a magazine with an article complaining about these conspiracies against women.

Why is it wrong when men lodge the same complaints?

All I'm asking for is the legitimization of complaints about the same issues, from both sides of the fence. I don't see where I've pushed for anything different.

 

[bronzeage]

You keep repeating that, but I have provided you four examples right off hand ofA man has a God given right to demand equal treatment, to have his inadequacies looked over just as her similar inadequacies are. You utterly lack the power, despite all your efforts to the contrary, to deprive him of that right.

He exercises that right by refusing to date or be associated with women who have inadequacies (being short) and expect men to cover up for them (by being taller).

You have a God given right to whine about it, too.

Stand on your toes when you say this and you'll look taller.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

You have a God given right to whine about it, too.

Stand on your toes when you say this and you'll look taller.

If you were any taller, you'd just be a bigger fool.

You're still trying to assert that it's the man's fault when a woman says

"I'm 5'7" and have always prefered someone my height or taller. Doesn't matter how much taller, just not shorter. Shorter would make me feel like mom being out with a child."

Repeat after me: there is nothing in the universe that a short man can do to be attractive to a woman that says "I'm 5'7" and have always prefered someone my height or taller. Doesn't matter how much taller, just not shorter. Shorter would make me feel like mom being out with a child." All the confidence handed down by God Himself will not save him.

Is that clear enough for you? Or do I need to type more slowly?

 

[bronzeage]

If you were any taller, you'd just be a bigger fool.

You're still trying to assert that it's the man's fault when a woman says

"I'm 5'7" and have always prefered someone my height or taller. Doesn't matter how much taller, just not shorter. Shorter would make me feel like mom being out with a child."

Repeat after me: there is nothing in the universe that a short man can do to be attractive to a woman that says "I'm 5'7" and have always prefered someone my height or taller. Doesn't matter how much taller, just not shorter. Shorter would make me feel like mom being out with a child." All the confidence handed down by God Himself will not save him.

Is that clear enough for you? Or do I need to type more slowly?

Have you considered putting lifts in your shoes? Maybe she will find some other nice quality in you and be willing to over look your height deficit.

 

[crazybbwgirl]

LT - The difference is:

When I see some guy write something along the lines of: "I hate fat chicks, they're ugly and stupid."
I think to myself 'that poor misinformed sod.'

I DON'T think to myself - "All men are in a conspiracy to bring down fat chicks."

 

[bronzeage]

LT - The difference is:

When I see some guy write something along the lines of: "I hate fat chicks, they're ugly and stupid."
I think to myself 'that poor misinformed sod.'

I DON'T think to myself - "All men are in a conspiracy to bring down fat chicks."

Misinformation is not his problem. No one would be able to provide him with better information and change his mind.

The "fat chick hater" got turned down by a woman, who he assumed was as desperate as him.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

LT - The difference is:

When I see some guy write something along the lines of: "I hate fat chicks, they're ugly and stupid."
I think to myself 'that poor misinformed sod.'

I DON'T think to myself - "All men are in a conspiracy to bring down fat chicks."

You don't. Because you're smart. Read those magazines, though. They're full of people who scream "conspiracy against women".

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Have you considered putting lifts in your shoes? Maybe she will find some other nice quality in you and be willing to over look your height deficit.

Lifts are useless. Eventually you have to stand before her barefoot. Then you get to tack on "dishonest" to the quality of being short. Smooth move.

Any woman who has a problem with a man's height would not be worth my time. When I had personal ads I avoided putting that in. If she asked, she got deleted. My wife did not ask. I advise all guys to follow suit. Hell, I found someone good - why can't they?

Oh, and I'm not short, either. Surprise. I just despise shallow women just as women despise shallow men. Oh noes. Misogyny. Getarope.

 

[bronzeage]

Lifts are useless. Eventually you have to stand before her barefoot. Then you get to tack on "dishonest" to the quality of being short. Smooth move.

Any woman who has a problem with a man's height would not be worth my time. When I had personal ads I avoided putting that in. If she asked, she got deleted. My wife did not ask. I advise all guys to follow suit. Hell, I found someone good - why can't they?

Oh, and I'm not short, either. Surprise. I just despise shallow women just as women despise shallow men. Oh noes. Misogyny. Getarope.

You tried them? I thought so.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

You tried them? I thought so.

You could have searched for my posts and 'match.com'.

You should see the hot babes that put up profiles on match.com - hotter women than you've ever dated.

I guess I should have let you fly off on an "I'm gonna attack LT for having used personal ads in the past" rampage before bitch slapping you with that inconvenient fact, but I have 2 kids now and an adoptee coming to America in the immediate future. I've no time for long, running battles with walking abortions like you.

 

[bronzeage]

You could have searched for my posts and 'match.com'.

You should see the hot babes that put up profiles on match.com - hotter women than you've ever dated.

I guess I should have let you fly off on an "I'm gonna attack LT for having used personal ads in the past" rampage before bitch slapping you with that inconvenient fact, but I have 2 kids now and an adoptee coming to America in the immediate future. I've no time for long, running battles with walking abortions like you.

Why would I do that? Have you ever seen me attack somebody?

There's nothing wrong with personal ads. You don't know any of the women who I have dated, so that is a uninformed opinion.

You don't seem to have time or appetite for anything else.

You really are too predictable.