Angry about the Nice Guy thing? Well, the Nice Guys have a point. Here's why.

[LJ_Reloaded]

http://www.more.com/reinvention-money/second-acts/all-good-men-are-taken

Deanne didn’t get married until she was 35, and then she turned around and divorced her husband after five years and two children. One day, Deanne sat across from me at lunch and bitterly complained there were no good men left, and she was stuck dating the true pond dwellers left on the market. She had recently had an affair with a guy, and at first, they were getting along. Right in the middle of it, she noticed familiar issues creeping into the relationship. She worked too much; she spent most of her free time with her children (rightly so); and he felt neglected. The relationship ended. Now she lamented facing her single life and thought perhaps she was better off not dating at all.

Does Deanne’s situation sound familiar? Deanne and many women in similar situations tend to blame one of two things: the lack of a qualified dating pool or the men’s behavior. Deanne never stopped to ask herself about her own culpability in her relationships. Her mantra is: “Men are scum.” Haven’t we all heard that phrase uttered from our girlfriends? It’s all about the men not behaving the way we want or expect. I like what my business partner says though, “Men are simple creature. If we could all understand that part we would have fantastic relationships.”

http://www.girlsaskguys.com/relationships/q149864-why-does-seem-like-all-good-men-----

I know I'm going to get bombed on for this but I'm bored and a little excitement will do me some good so Why does it seem like all the good men are either married, gay, or broke and looking to mooch off some female?

"All the good men are taken."

This is the fedora wearing female dudebro neckbeard problem right here.

When nice guys complain about women saying "I want a nice guy" they are talking about shit like this.

At what point do women who say they hate nice guys acquire the self awareness to stop whining about the so-called lack of good men?

 

[Aella_]

I'm all for marriage and nice guys, LJ.
Marry the nice guy and have him pay the bills, and keep the bad boy as a lover.

 

[Samsacks]

There is a difference between being a truly nice guy and being a passive fence sitter.

A truly nice guy is kind to people of all ages and situations, is sacrificial to others, knows himself deeply, flaws and all, is forgiving, patient, yada, yada yada.

A passive fence sitter sees himself as a "nice guy," or a "helpless romantic," but he has impossible ideals for women and is generally frightened of them. He's only interested in unattainable women (through distance or marriage or circumstance) because he knows he can't sustain a real, one on one relationship based on the real circumstances of life, good and bad.

Why do guys get friend zoned? Because they're wimps who can't ask for what they want, and if you can't ask from the get-go, how are you going to manage down the line?

I say all this having been that guy, but read a line many, many years ago on The Misanthropic Bitch website (is that still around?) that said, in essence, "Love isn't flowers and candy and bells ringing, it's morning breath, back pimples and bad days." In other words, if you can't handle the day to day stuff, the rest won't matter.

 

[Aella_]

Counter-argument no.2 :
You're talking about nice guys/bad boys, LJ, as if the ugly guys are automatically nice on the inside, and the charming guys are just heartless bastards.

But what if things are different, (and they often are, imo) :
- the "nice guys" aka the ugly guys also have rotten, ugly souls
- whereas the good looking, charming ones (the "bad boys") are also kind and beautiful on the inside?

I'd Certainly pick meeself a bad boy!!

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I'm all for marriage and nice guys, LJ.
Marry the nice guy and have him pay the bills, and keep the bad boy as a lover.

*backs away very slowly*

Yeah, women like you actually encourage misogyny. Except it's not misogyny when it's only directed at attitudes like that - as long as all the good women are not also hated because of your way of doing things...

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

There is a difference between being a truly nice guy and being a passive fence sitter.

A truly nice guy is kind to people of all ages and situations, is sacrificial to others, knows himself deeply, flaws and all, is forgiving, patient, yada, yada yada.

A passive fence sitter sees himself as a "nice guy," or a "helpless romantic," but he has impossible ideals for women and is generally frightened of them. He's only interested in unattainable women (through distance or marriage or circumstance) because he knows he can't sustain a real, one on one relationship based on the real circumstances of life, good and bad.

Women have impossible standards for men, too. Have you even picked up a romance novel as of late? Hello, billionaire romance!

Why do guys get friend zoned? Because they're wimps who can't ask for what they want, and if you can't ask from the get-go, how are you going to manage down the line?

Ah, the catch-22. If you ask her, she'll say you're going too fast, and if you don't, you're a coward.
http://i.imgur.com/kPM8hNE.jpg

Also: A nice guy's way out of the friendzone is to pursue someone else, not the woman who friendzoned him. And if a woman even says 'wimp', avoid her entirely.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Counter-argument no.2 :
You're talking about nice guys/bad boys, LJ, as if the ugly guys are automatically nice on the inside, and the charming guys are just heartless bastards.

But what if things are different, (and they often are, imo) :
- the "nice guys" aka the ugly guys also have rotten, ugly souls
- whereas the good looking, charming ones (the "bad boys") are also kind and beautiful on the inside?

I'd Certainly pick meeself a bad boy!!

And then when the bad boy cheats on you and brings home a STD... welp...

And this thread is about women who whine about there's no good men around... anyone wanna address that?

 

[bronzeage]

I'm a nice guy. You can ask anybody. They'll say, "That Bronzeage is the nicest guy you'll ever meet."

I've never lacked for female companionship. There were a few times I had too much and had disappoint someone.

I have friends who are nice guys. They all have wives or hot girlfriends.

This nice guy bullshit always pops up when some sadsack gets shot down and has to blame the woman, because it can't be his fault. It can't be that he won't shut up about his ex-wife and how she fucked him in the property settlement. It can't be that he plays video games until 4 am, every morning. It can't be that he sends her 15 texts while she's at work, and when she doesn't respond, sends a cock pic.

It can't be him, so it must be her. In the land of nice guys, all the women are defective. That's the problem.

 

[Aella_]

Women have impossible standards for men, too. Have you even picked up a romance novel as of late? Hello, billionaire romance!

Lmao the last two sentences.
Good one, LJ, and true… .

And then when the bad boy cheats on you and brings home a STD... welp...

You sneakily pretended to miss my point.
Try again

 

[Aella_]

I'm a nice guy. You can ask anybody. They'll say, "That Bronzeage is the nicest guy you'll ever meet."

I've never lacked for female companionship. There were a few times I had too much and had disappoint someone.

I have friends who are nice guys. They all have wives or hot girlfriends.

This nice guy bullshit always pops up when some sadsack gets shot down and has to blame the woman, because it can't be his fault. It can't be that he won't shut up about his ex-wife and how she fucked him in the property settlement. It can't be that he plays video games until 4 am, every morning. It can't be that he sends her 15 texts while she's at work, and when she doesn't respond, sends a cock pic.

It can't be him, so it must be her. In the land of nice guys, all the women are defective. That's the problem.

Nah, he's just smitten with the "bad girls". What about the rest of us, the 95%, LJ

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Nah, he's just smitten with the "bad girls". What about the rest of us, the 95%, LJ

If 95% of women marry the nice guy and have him pay the bills, and keep the bad boy as a lover, then I suggest that all men just pass and go for the porn.

 

[bronzeage]

Nah, he's just smitten with the "bad girls". What about the rest of us, the 95%, LJ

There are no bad girls. They are just misunderstood.

 

[PayDay]

It can't be that he plays video games until 4 am, every morning.

There's a problem with this? You have to do something when she steals all the covers and says some other guy's name in her sleep.

There are no bad girls. They are just misunderstood.

That---^ catchphrase is so full of holes it's worthless. (see post #2)

 

[bronzeage]

There's a problem with this? You have to do something when she steals all the covers and says some other guy's name in her sleep.



That---^ catchphrase is so full of holes it's worthless. (see post #2)

If a man can't keep a grip on his blanket, it's nobody's problem but his own.

 

[Aella_]

If 95% of women marry the nice guy and have him pay the bills, and keep the bad boy as a lover, then I suggest that all men just pass and go for the porn.

Ain't that happening already?
You guys are doing cybersex on Lit!

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

There's a problem with this? You have to do something when she steals all the covers and says some other guy's name in her sleep.

Careful now, Bronzeage faps to fantasies like that. His old nickname used to be born2bcuckolded.

 

[bronzeage]

Careful now, Bronzeage faps to fantasies like that. His old nickname used to be born2bcuckolded.

When your wife says another man's name in bed, she's actually talking to him.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Ain't that happening already?
You guys are doing cybersex on Lit!

And that's a good thing, but only inasmuch as it's a good start. In Japan, men have completely gone on strike: more than half of young men there don't even care about sex. More than half.

Picture that happening in America. Women cry 'sexism' and 'muh soggy knees' about their ability to sexually manipulate men but they have no idea what they're going to lose when that power is gone. Western women are way too confident that it can never happen here. Pride, of course, goeth before the fall.

What is the world going to look like when even a quarter of Western men decide to seek alternatives to vying for female companionship? I look forward to that world. For now, Japan is already that world. Judging by them, nobody is prepared for the societal catacylsm that would result - and for Japan, they have already recognized that this change is quite cataclysmic.

Men, freed from worrying about chasing women. It's a lovely thing to behold. For us, not you.

 

[ElijaRDC]

My boyfriend is a nice guy. He's a genuinely great person, to me and everyone else. Like anyone, he has his faults, but nothing that stands in the way of him treating people with respect and generosity.

He has never once said, "I'm a nice guy."

If something is true, you don't need to tell people for them to believe it.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

My boyfriend is a nice guy. He's a genuinely great person, to me and everyone else. Like anyone, he has his faults, but nothing that stands in the way of him treating people with respect and generosity.

He has never once said, "I'm a nice guy."

If something is true, you don't need to tell people for them to believe it.

What about when a woman says "you're a nice guy, but"

And what about the point of the thread: women whining that "All the good men are taken"? I find it funny that no one wants to discuss that.

I knew this was a huge weak spot in people's thought processes.

 

[coochiebarber]

If she hasn't met a nice guy yet, she's never going to do. Losers are every where.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

If she hasn't met a nice guy yet, she's never going to do. Losers are every where.

If she can't meet a nice guy then the problem is her.

 

[FeralDog]

I'm a nice guy. You can ask anybody. They'll say, "That Bronzeage is the nicest guy you'll ever meet."

I've never lacked for female companionship. There were a few times I had too much and had disappoint someone.

I have friends who are nice guys. They all have wives or hot girlfriends.

This nice guy bullshit always pops up when some sadsack gets shot down and has to blame the woman, because it can't be his fault. It can't be that he won't shut up about his ex-wife and how she fucked him in the property settlement. It can't be that he plays video games until 4 am, every morning. It can't be that he sends her 15 texts while she's at work, and when she doesn't respond, sends a cock pic.

It can't be him, so it must be her. In the land of nice guys, all the women are defective. That's the problem.

I'm glad there's a voice of reason here. There are bad girls and there are bad boys, there are terrible women and horrible men, but most of the time when I hear a person (honestly, male or female) complain that all the nice/good ones are taken, they are thinking on a point system.
As in, open the door for other person? 5 points.
Buy lunch? 15 points.
Buy dinner? Depending on how nice it is, 20-30 points.
And then at 50 points they expect blowjob/sex or whatever. There are no points in life. You don't do nice things to get sex, you do them to be a decent human being and one day you'll meet someone who thinks you're the decent-est and do the sex thing with you.
Even if the other person is taken, most self proclaimed 'nice' people will try to cash that points check. Unless the other person's into that, it sucks to feel as if you owe sex to someone due to them being friendly.

 

[coochiebarber]

I'm glad there's a voice of reason here. There are bad girls and there are bad boys, there are terrible women and horrible men, but most of the time when I hear a person (honestly, male or female) complain that all the nice/good ones are taken, they are thinking on a point system.
As in, open the door for other person? 5 points.
Buy lunch? 15 points.
Buy dinner? Depending on how nice it is, 20-30 points.
And then at 50 points they expect blowjob/sex or whatever. There are no points in life. You don't do nice things to get sex, you do them to be a decent human being and one day you'll meet someone who thinks you're the decent-est and do the sex thing with you.
Even if the other person is taken, most self proclaimed 'nice' people will try to cash that points check. Unless the other person's into that, it sucks to feel as if you owe sex to someone due to them being friendly.

And if he puts up with all the bullshits and blunders a woman commits, 500 points.

 

[Aella_]

What about when a woman says "you're a nice guy, but"

And what about the point of the thread: women whining that "All the good men are taken"? I find it funny that no one wants to discuss that.

I knew this was a huge weak spot in people's thought processes.

Gosh, LJ, you're getting punchier by the day…
Loved this one, too.