Invitation only events

[pink_silk_glove]

The “thing” between me and her (which was mostly a one-sided rant about her opinion that February Sucks follow-up writers are plagiarists with a tone/side helping of “how dare you have success in LW/on Lit without my imprimatur”) happened over in Story Discussion. It was mostly sill high school level nonsense, but it sounds like there was nastier stuff that happened before I started posting/writing here to other people. I have no direct knowledge of that, though.

It's high school level nonsense that you don't mind engaging with.

So let's see what happened.
~You wrote a story based on someone else's work without permission (given the culture around FS, honest mistake, granted)
~Randi called you (and others) out on it.
~You decide to chalk it up to her being jealous of your LW scores and dismiss her as a snob, no flies on you Jack.

Naw, your attitude aint high school at all, heh.

Maybe she is a snob. I don't know, but takes one to know one I guess.

The rule these days seems to be A) get grandfathered in or B) catch her eye through LW or getting her as an editor but C) do not get on her bad side. I have able managed C, probably because I didn't do B but still managed to succeed in LW; that's according to what I was told, anyways.

Yea, arrogant post of the year candidate ^^ right there.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Notice, I haven't stirred any pots on this discussion, so 'tisn't my fault!

 

[NoTalentHack]

We are pretty tame here, aren't we?

Yeah. It’s just… so weird. It always feels weird when someone has beef with you over such a small thing (free stories on a porn site, for god’s sake!), especially when it’s not reciprocated EXCEPT for the fact that they have beef with you. Feels like this:

 

[EmilyMiller]

Notice, I haven't stirred any pots on this discussion, so 'tisn't my fault!

Millie gets a

Emily

 

[NoTalentHack]

It's high school level nonsense that you don't mind engaging with.

So let's see what happened.
~You wrote a story based on someone else's work without permission (given the culture around FS, honest mistake, granted)
~Randi called you (and others) out on it.
~You decide to chalk it up to her being jealous of your LW scores and dismiss her as a snob, no flies on you Jack.

Naw, your attitude aint high school at all, heh.

Maybe she is a snob. I don't know, but takes one to know one I guess.



Yea, arrogant post of the year candidate ^^ right there.

You have the order of operations wrong. Like I said, that one post was my sole direct interaction with her, but I've been talking with a few of the folks that have been in some of her invitationals for almost as long as I've been posting here. At first, I had the same questions Emily did, i.e., how does one get an invite to the invitational, and I asked one of them about it. I don't want to go too much more into it, because it was a set of private conversations, but the above was what I gleaned before the above forum exchange.

I would not have brought it up here at all. In fact, I even avoided mentioning specifics in the essay that the forum exchange partially inspired--along with a couple stories in LW getting reported and pulled because another writer there was being too proprietary about their story ideas--because I didn't want to engage in high school level gossip shit. But the question was asked here, and I answered it, then gave additional context.

Am I arrogant? Oh, hell yeah. But I also try to give people the benefit of the doubt. In this case, though? I have multiple sources, along with my own ability to reason from A to B to C, to back it up. If I were basing this solely on that one exchange? Oh, yeah. Absolutely, it would be fair to call me out on it. But I'm not. And I'm also clearly not the only person she's decided is persona non grata, based on other comments in this thread.

I will happily drop it at this point. Emily's gotten her question answered, as did other people that asked for more information. If someone else wants to discuss it, though, I will, too. Like I said: I don't have beef with randi. I just find it bizarre that she has beef with me, and I wanted to give the context as to why she did, to my understanding.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

I don't have beef with randi

The fuck you don't.

 

[NoTalentHack]

The fuck you don't.

Okay, psg. If you say so. You are the resident shit-stirrer here these days, after all.

 

[CalebZhass]

It's an annual thread cycle, where new members ask, "What's with these invitationals?" and the same answer comes up, every time.

They're divisive events, always were, always will be; but people, quite reasonably, keep asking the question.

I mean invitational competition events, in the classic sense are prestigious events reserved for those who are accomplished in their field. I have no problem with the notion of an invitational event. What confuses me tbh. is the notion of a public invitational event, without clear guidelines of who gets invited and on what grounds.

That's not an invitational event in my opinion, but a private event, and making a public announcement about a private event is just a dick move, which will at best be met with ignorance, but at worst will be met with resentment.

As in: if its famous people writing, then by all means, please, do tell who, so I can get my lube ready for when the stories come out. If it's however just a circle of buddies organizing their private game, then I simply don't see why I should be excited. Why I should care, and consequently, why this should be of interest to anyone other than the people participating, thus why it has to be publicly announced.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I mean invitational competition events, in the classic sense are prestigious events reserved for those who are accomplished in their field. I have no problem with the notion of an invitational event. What confuses me tbh. is the notion of a public invitational event, without clear guidelines of who gets invited and on what grounds.

That's not an invitational event in my opinion, but a private event, and making a public announcement about a private event is just a dick move, which will at best be met with ignorance, but at worst will be met with resentment.

As in: if its famous people writing, then by all means, please, do tell who, so I can get my lube ready for when the stories come out. If it's however just a circle of buddies organizing their private game, then I simply don't see why I should be excited. Why I should care, and consequently, why this should be of interest to anyone other than the people participating, thus why it has to be publicly announced.

This

As I say, the fact that I posted a Xitter link is not coincidence. I wanted to figure out whether or not to promote it.

Why should I promote a private party?

I’d rather promote another writer (I do by the way).

Emily

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Okay, psg. If you say so. You are the resident shit-stirrer here these days, after all.

I'm not and you know that. I just called you out and now you're ass-covering. Keep up the passive-ag.

 

[AH_Mod]

This thread is going nowhere productive and will be locked. The opportunity to create and manage Invitational Events is something Lit provides to authors. While the individual events may be closed, anyone has the opportunity to create their own.