Trump's Paris trip embarrassed the shit out of his deplorable fans

Carnal_Flower said:

Not a lie at all.

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Sure it is that's why you can't name any shit I bash (D)'s for that I give a pass to (R)'s for.

Not a single thing.

Carnal_Flower said:

Like I said, you're selective in your outrage. This thread a case in point.

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Get your quotes of me giving a pass to/excusing (R)'s together.....

*Fire up the excuses and bullshitting*

about_average said:

Neither Clinton is president.

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And we're all the better for it...

BotanyBoy said:

That must be how you got from forest fires to shooting asylum seekers or why you can't show me a post where I even remotely suggest anything of the sort.

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Then why did you ask about shooting the fire?
That was the what you chose to go with as what the Army and Marines could do if deployed to battle the fires.
Whereas a normal person who thinks logically would go with people being sent to actually fight the fires. You know, with bulldozers, chainsaws, fire rakes, hauling water. Normal forest fire fighting.

That certainly makes it sound like you think shooting is the only thing they are capable of doing. Why would they have different capabilities on the border?

Just admit you asked a 100% dumbass question, and move on. Quit trying to defend your idiocy.

phrodeau said:

It’s a trick question. Trump has never managed to save face on the evening news.

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1. Gorsuch
2. Kavanaugh
3. Possibly (likely) 2 more appointments
4. Hundreds of other federal court appointments

I can live with some stupid tweets....I

WINNING....

This very thread.

We sat through 8 years of Rs accusing O of embarrassing the US on the world stage. Over and over and over. He was weak. He apologized. He made us look stupid, he made us disrespected. 8 solid years.

Trump embarrasses the US every time he goes anywhere (V Day only the latest.) and Rs excuse, deny, look away, stay silent, don't mind.

=

blatant, obvious, in your face selective outrage on the part of Rs. Seems like a good time to point out to Rs "it's ok when my guy does it, but not yours."

Not a peep from you. Instead you manufacture a different case of selective outrage about the Clintons from 30 yrs ago because Dems and your partisan hatred.

Haven't heard a peep from you about Republicans and Matt Whitaker. Seems like a good time to point out R "selective outrage" about Hillary's supposed corruption, cronyism and criminality, not to mention the hysteria about the "tarmac" meeting. How about Trump being the subject of investigation after investigation and FBI probes? You blow it all off as "Dem" hysteria while whining about Benghazi = your very selective outrage about partisan selective outrage = a partisan hater and hack, not an even handed "ideologue."


If you're even handed in your "ideological" purity (LMAO) it should be really easy for you to link to a thread where you really took Rs to task. Should be very easy, since you attack Dems every single day. If you attack Rs just as much, provide a link.

BotanyBoy said:

Sure it is that's why you can't name any shit I bash (D)'s for that I give a pass to (R)'s for.

Not a single thing.





Get your quotes of me giving a pass to/excusing (R)'s together.....

*Fire up the excuses and bullshitting*

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Carnal_Flower said:

This very thread.

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You failed to quote anything. Much less anything relevant to me or what I said.

Carnal_Flower said:

Not a peep from you. Instead you manufacture a different case of selective outrage about the Clintons from 30 yrs ago because Dems and your partisan hatred.

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I didn't manufacture anything and you clearly didn't pay much attention to the conversation.

Carnal_Flower said:

Haven't heard a peep from you about Republicans and Matt Whitaker.

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Never asked and it's not relevant. Just because I don't rage out every time a Republican somewhere farts, doesn't mean I'm giving them a pass or supporting them.

Carnal_Flower said:

How about Trump being the subject of investigation after investigation and FBI probes? You blow it all off as "Dem" hysteria while whining about Benghazi

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What about it? It's an investigation....the shit to be worried about is AFTER the investigation IF they find anything.

And I never bitched about Benghazi. Stop lying and making shit up....or go grab a quite sister.

Carnal_Flower said:

= your very selective outrage about partisan selective outrage = a partisan hater and hack, not an even handed "ideologue."
If you're even handed in your "ideological".

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So you think an ideologue is supposed to be "evenhanded" ?? Where did you make up that bullshit or was that a last second choice to run around with the goal post???

Evenhanded, or equitable anything really is a left wing concept especially when considering speech/criticism.....us liberals place ZERO value on equity. Not that it has anything to do with being an ideologue.


It's become clear that don't know what the fuck an ideologue is and since you couldn't be bothered to finish high school or get a GED let me help you with that.....

ideologue
[ahy-dee-uh-lawg, -log, id-ee-, ahy-dee-]
ExamplesWord Origin
noun
a person who zealously advocates an ideology.

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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ideologue

ideologue
NOUN
An adherent of an ideology, especially one who is uncompromising and dogmatic.

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https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/ideologue


I'm not required to satisfy YOUR rage against (R)'s in an equitable manner, or any other dumb fucking shit you dream up in order to hold my ideas above party allegiances and other political/bureaucratic bullshit.


Stop making shit up and running around with your goal posts...evenhanded LOL

Or at least be able to quote shit you claim.

Meh, bitching, whining, tomayto, tomahto. And what is a "quite sister"? Asking for a friend.

doowdniw said:

Meh, bitching, whining, tomayto, tomahto. And what is a "quite sister"? Asking for a friend.

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Yea..... didn't think you had much of substance.


It's an auto spell malfucktion.

So you can't link to any posts calling out Rs or Trumpers, got it.

BotanyBoy said:

You failed to quote anything. Much less anything relevant to me or what I said.





I didn't manufacture anything and you clearly didn't pay much attention to the conversation.



Never asked and it's not relevant. Just because I don't rage out every time a Republican somewhere farts, doesn't mean I'm giving them a pass or supporting them.



What about it? It's an investigation....the shit to be worried about is AFTER the investigation IF they find anything.

And I never bitched about Benghazi. Stop lying and making shit up....or go grab a quite sister.





So you think an ideologue is supposed to be "evenhanded" ?? Where did you make up that bullshit or was that a last second choice to run around with the goal post???

Evenhanded, or equitable anything really is a left wing concept especially when considering speech/criticism.....us liberals place ZERO value on equity. Not that it has anything to do with being an ideologue.


It's become clear that don't know what the fuck an ideologue is and since you couldn't be bothered to finish high school or get a GED let me help you with that.....




https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ideologue


https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/ideologue


I'm not required to satisfy YOUR rage against (R)'s in an equitable manner, or any other dumb fucking shit you dream up in order to hold my ideas above party allegiances and other political/bureaucratic bullshit.


Stop making shit up and running around with your goal posts...evenhanded LOL

Or at least be able to quote shit you claim.

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Carnal_Flower said:

So you can't link to any posts calling out Rs or Trumpers, got it.

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I don't have to from their not canning obamacare like they said they would to not using their time to do anything productive I've criticized them. If you want to ignore that fine, but I don't owe you proof your fantasies are fantasies.

You say I'm not an ideologue....you haven no evidence other than your feelings that I'm not spastic over (R)'s enough for you.

As if that was even relevant.

Come back when you got something more than hate fueled fantasies.

#triggered

Who Posted?
Total Posts: 136
User Name Posts
BotanyBoy 31
adrina 16
Carnal_Flower 9

mAnn_Tagonist said:

#triggered

Who Posted?
Total Posts: 136
User Name Posts
BotanyBoy 31
adrina 16
Carnal_Flower 9

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Cuz post counts mean things!!!


Shut up Rory.

You're the one always accusing Dems of selective, partisan, hypocritical outrage, while constantly ignoring or excusing the most flagrant examples of it on the other side such as the ones I pointed out.

If you care so much about hypocrisy and partisanship then you would think you'd call it out wherever it is regard less of party. You don't, because you're obsessed with Dems and fond of Trumpers. Ie you are blatantly partisan, selective and hypocritical to the max yourself.

Its only bad when the other guy's doing the "same" thing. That's your fave line of attack, which you used in this Thread to
Whatabout the issue of Trump's attitudes towards Vets into your But but but Clinton obsession.

When my guy (Trump) does it its ok.

Thus making you a flaming hypocrite

BotanyBoy said:

You failed to quote anything. Much less anything relevant to me or what I said.





I didn't manufacture anything and you clearly didn't pay much attention to the conversation.



Never asked and it's not relevant. Just because I don't rage out every time a Republican somewhere farts, doesn't mean I'm giving them a pass or supporting them.



What about it? It's an investigation....the shit to be worried about is AFTER the investigation IF they find anything.

And I never bitched about Benghazi. Stop lying and making shit up....or go grab a quite sister.





So you think an ideologue is supposed to be "evenhanded" ?? Where did you make up that bullshit or was that a last second choice to run around with the goal post???

Evenhanded, or equitable anything really is a left wing concept especially when considering speech/criticism.....us liberals place ZERO value on equity. Not that it has anything to do with being an ideologue.


It's become clear that don't know what the fuck an ideologue is and since you couldn't be bothered to finish high school or get a GED let me help you with that.....




https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ideologue


https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/ideologue


I'm not required to satisfy YOUR rage against (R)'s in an equitable manner, or any other dumb fucking shit you dream up in order to hold my ideas above party allegiances and other political/bureaucratic bullshit.


Stop making shit up and running around with your goal posts...evenhanded LOL

Or at least be able to quote shit you claim.

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Carnal_Flower said:

You're the one always accusing Dems of selective, partisan, hypocritical outrage, while constantly ignoring or excusing the most flagrant examples of it on the other side such as the ones I pointed out.

If you care so much about hypocrisy and partisanship then you would think you'd call it out wherever it is regard less of party. You don't, because you're obsessed with Dems and fond of Trumpers. Ie you are blatantly partisan, selective and hypocritical to the max yourself.

Its only bad when the other guy's doing the "same" thing. That's your fave line of attack, which you used in this Thread to
Whatabout the issue of Trump's attitudes towards Vets into your But but but Clinton obsession.

When my guy (Trump) does it its ok.

Thus making you a flaming hypocrite

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Even worse, that idiot claims to be a liberal.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/liberal-meaning-origin-history

'Liberal' shares a root with 'liberty' and can mean anything from "generous" to "loose" to "broad-minded." Politically, it means "“a person who believes that government should be active in supporting social and political change."

From the Daily Caller

POTUS said:

The Republicans don’t win and that’s because of potentially illegal votes,” Trump said. “When people get in line that have absolutely no right to vote and they go around in circles. Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again. Nobody takes anything. It’s really a disgrace what’s going on.”

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Oblimo said:

From the Daily Caller

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Obviously Trump doesn't understand the election poll process at all. Just add that to the pile of other stuff he doesn't understand.

KeithD said:

Obviously Trump doesn't understand the election poll process at all. Just add that to the pile of other stuff he doesn't understand.

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Next election will feature inky fingers.

Carnal_Flower said:

You're the one always accusing Dems of selective, partisan, hypocritical outrage, while constantly ignoring or excusing the most flagrant examples of it on the other side such as the ones I pointed out.

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I never ignored or excused an (R) for something I bashed a (D) for.....that's why you can't post an example.

Keep making up lies and keep being blown off for acting like a child.

Time to put up or shut up.

cowslinger64 said:

Even worse, that idiot claims to be a liberal.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/liberal-meaning-origin-history

'Liberal' shares a root with 'liberty' and can mean anything from "generous" to "loose" to "broad-minded." Politically, it means "“a person who believes that government should be active in supporting social and political change."

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Nothing about my politics that isn't liberal.

The caveat to your definition is that it has to fit within the general political definition of the word.

Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics

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https://www.britannica.com/topic/liberalism

That's why civil services when taxed and provided in an even manner are considered socially liberal, but centralized economic control or nationalization of an industry/market (socialism) is not.

Lol, yes you have. You do all the time.

Me: Stop hitting Susie.

You: I'm not hitting Bobby.

Read my posts. I said you are selective in your outrage about selective outrage. You ignore and excuse R hypocrisy and partisanship on a daily basis, while CONSTANTLY accusing Ds of the SAME THING.*


*Still waiting for a link to a post where you call a R out on ANYTHING.

BotanyBoy said:

I never ignored or excused an (R) for something I bashed a (D) for.....that's why you can't post an example.

Keep making up lies and keep being blown off for acting like a child.

Time to put up or shut up.

.

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Carnal_Flower said:

Lol, yes you have. . You do all the time.

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Then you should have no problem providing a quote/link of me giving a pass to (R)'s for something I was ripping on (D)'s for.


Again, not ripping on (R)'s to YOUR satisfaction isn't me giving them a pass either.

No Rony you are the

snow flake who embassies the entire country!

OldJourno said:

I guess I'm not deplorable. I wasn't embarrassed.
The brief story I read from the AP cited the weather and helicopter travel safety concerns.
I didn't watch any news. Was everyone else there except Trump?

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Watsa matter, American helicopters can't take a bit of rain?
I supposed they could back in the 1960s.

Rightguide said:

Libsam said:

There were topless bitches chasing the motorcade around screaming for President Trump to grab em by the pussy!!

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Well it was France, everyone there get's grabbed by the pussy.

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DMBFFF said:

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...s/news-story/5cee8d326f169406db79bc94f4ad5327

https://www.thelocal.fr/20181111/topless-protesters-held-in-bid-to-welcome-trump-to-paris

I think they're located in Paris.








Also, the page has a link to this:

Co-founder of Femen feminist group found dead in Paris
https://www.thelocal.fr/20180724/co-founder-of-femen-feminist-group-found-dead-in-paris
24 July 2018
13:43 CEST+02:00
Likely suicide.

In 2011, Femen said Shachko was among three members "kidnapped" by security agents and forced to strip naked in a forest after staging a topless protest mocking Belarussian strongman Alexander Lukashenko.

The agents had poured oil over the three women, threatened to set them on fire, and cut off their hair, Femen said.

She was abducted again by unknown assailants during a visit by Putin to Ukraine, according to the group.

Femen's lawyer said Shachko was beaten so badly that she was briefly hospitalised.

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R.I.P.

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Think what you will of Femen, but they are braver than +99% of Trump supporters. The use of the term in this context is vulgar and perhaps sexist, but in a way, it's the latter who are the real pussies.

Busybody18 said:

[a scat-pic-of-sorts]

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You're asking for it, bigot.

adrina said:

Talk is cheap. Look at Flake.

The reality is then that there are no "true" republicans in DC. To a one they have voted lockstep. John McCain broke the ranks every once in a while but he's dead.

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Frum and PJ O'Rourke, I think. voted for Hillary; and the votes for the Libertarian Party's candidate for President multiplied from their previous highest.

Busybody18 said:

Did any of you NIGGERS start a thread

When NIGGER HO was the only "leader" that didnt attend the Paris march after the cartoon guys were KILLED by MUSLIMS?


I DONT THINK SO!

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American soldiers weren't involved, bigot.

Macron doesn't go to all the mass-shootings in the US—time issues.

BotanyBoy said:

Yet that's what happened in Somalia, 3OCT1993.....there was a book and movie about it called "Blackhawk Down" maybe you've heard of it?

Yea all those guys died because Clinton thought it would look bad blowing up a bunch of black folks.....so he made them walk out when they really, really, didn't have to.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)

(my bold)

The exact number of Somali casualties is unknown, but estimates range from several hundred to over a thousand militiamen and others killed,[12][13] with injuries to another 3,000–4,000.[14] The International Committee of the Red Cross estimated that 200 Somali civilians were killed and several hundred wounded in the fighting,[15] with reports that some civilians attacked the Americans.[16] The book Black Hawk Down: A Story of Modern War estimates more than 700 Somali militiamen dead and more than 1,000 wounded, but the Somali National Alliance in a Frontline documentary on American television acknowledged only 133 killed in the whole battle.[17] The Somali casualties were reported in The Washington Post as 312 killed and 814 wounded.[6] The Pentagon initially reported five American soldiers were killed,[18] but the toll was actually 18 American soldiers dead and 73 wounded. Two days later, a 19th soldier, Delta operator SFC Matt Rierson, was killed in a mortar attack. Among U.N. forces, one Malaysian and one Pakistani died; seven Malaysians and two Pakistanis were wounded. At the time the battle was the bloodiest involving U.S. troops since the Vietnam War, and it remained so until the Second Battle of Fallujah in 2004.

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Rightguide said:

The military is overwhelmingly behind Trump as we speak.

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Sez who: Breitbart or some other garbage site that passes for news?

BotanyBoy said:

Apples and oranges.....those marines didn't have an AC-130 and a QRF forces on standby ready to get their boys out that were ordered to stand down so Ronnie didn't look bad for killing a bunch of shit heads.

Keep trying to make it about party instead of a scum bag move to defend that PRECOCIOUS Clinton name though.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombings

Lessons learned

Shortly after the barracks bombing, President Ronald Reagan appointed a military fact-finding committee headed by retired Admiral Robert L. J. Long to investigate the bombing. The commission's report found senior military officials responsible for security lapses and blamed the military chain of command for the disaster. It suggested that there might have been many fewer deaths if the barracks guards had carried loaded weapons and a barrier more substantial than the barbed wire the bomber drove over easily. The commission also noted that the "prevalent view" among U.S. commanders was that there was a direct link between the navy shelling of the Muslims at Suq-al-Garb and the truck bomb attack.[134][135]

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BotanyBoy said:

Yea.

What do you call someone who votes for a known backstabber to lead them?




When did Trump unnecessarily allow members of our military to get slaughtered by ordering their backup to stand down, simply to save face on the evening news?

Name the operation, location and date please.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack

I searched "stand down" and only found this (aside from 2 others in the references)

a quote of a quote

In the aftermath of the attacks, Republicans criticized the Obama administration and its then-secretary of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is expected to run for president in 2016. People in and out of government have alleged that a CIA response team was ordered to "stand down" after the State Department compound came under attack, that a military rescue was nixed, that officials intentionally downplayed the role of al-Qaida figures in the attack, and that Stevens and the CIA were involved in a secret operation to spirit weapons out of Libya and into the hands of Syrian rebels. None of that is true, according to the House Intelligence Committee report.

The report did find, however, that the State Department facility where Stevens and Smith were killed was not well-protected, and that State Department security agents knew they could not defend it from a well-armed attack. Previous reports have found that requests for security improvements were not acted upon in Washington.

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BotanyBoy said:

So you can't name a single combat operation where Trump let our troops get cut to bits when he didn't need to because it would look bad if he sent back up in to help them get out???

That's what I thought.

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I can't think of any.

I can't think of any under Obama either.

BotanyBoy said:

Again...not the same thing, the troops in Iraq had more support and back up than any other combat troops ever.

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Excepting when Papa Bush did it in 1991.






[size=+1]No offense adrina, but I don't see where BotanyBoy claimed to have put Bill's errors on Hillary;
I just don't see much merit in his accusations about Bengazi.

On the other hand, not that I've given those WP links a thorough read, but the attacks against Hillary are so venomous and verbose, that I'm turned off to such reads.[/size]


The attacks in Beirut is an example of America's failure in dealing with jihadists—who'd 've thunk they'd actually do suicide attacks?

Grenada and Iraq I—were as much for prestige as anything (as was Panama 15 or so months earlier).

Somalia was post-Iraq I overconfidence, though I'm not sure it was a total failure or even much of one.

Ex-Yugoslavia was Clinton's reluctance to get involved in a European war, though by 1999 it was wag the dog—and not too bad a wagging given that the Serbian government changed a few years later.

Belgrade burned, but with no American ground troops (they weren't too necessary due to the KLA), fatalities (at least American ones) were minimized.

What I hear is that Somalia has recovered a bit.

Libya?

One day I'll read up on Benghazi, but I'll take rightist hysteria and anti-Hillary venom for what it's worth. When a poster on this very thread seems almost incapable of using the word "Clinton" in his threads without using the prefix "Cunt-" it does much to colour my view of their criticism—or what passes for it—of her.




[size=+1](You see Busybody, you bigot, the more you use that prefix, the more respect I have for Hillary.)[/size]






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Kind of interesting how Somalia has kind of gotten its act together, even the mostly-autonomous entities (Somaliland—I wonder how long it took them to think up that name—but I hear it's even more stable than the area controlled by Mogadishu), whereas Libya has continued in the meltdown.

Trump is an asshole and he is causing long-term harm, and I get pissed at his bullshit, and more so Trumpsters jumping to defend the lies—not just his acts, but lies.

Nonetheless, it's been 22 months since he's been inaugurated, and unlike the past two GOP presidents (Dubya and Papa Bush) he hasn't gotten the US involved in some stupid war. Indeed, he somewhat co-opted leftists aims to deal with Un—ah yes, I imagined the GOP-types yammered about Gloria Steinem going there.

By the way, the president who could have done the most about that—Bill Clinton—likely fumbled it. Papa Bush still had to deal with a USSR that was likely helping North Korea—Yeltsin's visit to Beijing happened only a few years earlier, and by the time Dubya was sworn in, North Korea was on its way to making nukes—including, I believe, a reputed test in 2002.




and yes, BotanyBoy, I too can feel the irony.

To be fair, McCain's funeral was his time, and you have to grant him that he was both tenacious and magnanimous. On the other hand, he did participate in a war that killed—I hear and read—over 1 million Vietnamese and dropping all of those bombs—three times that of WWII including the two nukes—and the agent orange—and Francis Ford Coppola and others treating the natives with an indifference that seems almost racist—Robert Duvall's Wagner thing is almost pornographic—I know, I felt the rush too, decades ago watching it.

Just what was accomplished 100 years ago? Historian Margaret MacMillan gives a decent defense of the Allied effort; but still, they all had feet of clay. A lot of those aristocrats reputedly wanted a war, and they got it.

and what was accomplished 70-75 years ago?

pushed Nazis out of East Europe and Japanese back to their Islands and let Stalin and Mao take over.


What if there was a war and no one came to it?

Still, the lies grate at me. Trump protesting his love of the military, but doesn't really bother, and Trumpsters doing their spaz dances instead of simply admit that it's BS and the BS isn't justified by what the Democrats do.
















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Who dares to place a musket on his shoulder
To shoot some other mother's darling boy?

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