Stella_Omega
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I recognize the wording.
It reminds me of the wife of a failed presidential candidate.
Naww.. couldn't be!
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I recognize the wording.
It reminds me of the wife of a failed presidential candidate.
Naww.. couldn't be!
"Trickle Down" economics does NOT work. That's what the Busch tax cuts were, just repackaged. It does NOT work, never did, never will. Busch explained that giving the top earners cuts would cause them to reinvest the money into creating jobs.
And that NEVER happened!!
It did happen, they did create jobs, but it was a 'better investment' to make them happen in China.
Without getting into details because Barbie says "Math is hard!"It sounds like the words uttered by a woman, while trying to explain in her own words, how the economy could be fixed, reading from prepared remarks to questions that were already submitted.
Wait-- before, you said that the "wealthy" are
Now you're saying;
But honey, trillionaires don't, and we know this for a fact, because they have not. In fact, the more money goes into those pockets, the fewer jobs stay in America.
They don't do small business. I, and my people, We do small business. We are what small business is. Fuck if I know who decided that "small business" means 500 employees! Right now, my goal is to generate income for five people. a really successful company that I know of has thirty employees. One guy reycling is a guy doing business.
And the federal government, believe it or not, does a lot to help small business, not hinder it. I am hearing from a lot of people how they can afford more staff for the first time, because of the new health insurance rules. Despite Poppa John's lying bullshit, healthcare is in fact becoming a thing for small people like us. A hell of a lot of those regulations are real useful for us.
The reason we are creating this new economy is NOT because of the state. We are doing this because Trillionaires have refused to do it.
We are not creating new currency systems because it's so much fun; we are doing it because most of this one is sitting in Swiss bank accounts and the cayman islands.
It's humerous, but not very much, that you suddenly think "global competition" is more important than "keeping the wolf away from the door." Move a goalpost, why don't you?
There has been one war in my lifetime that was necessary to maintain the peace of a nation-- and it wasn't ours. That was the cooperative effort in Bosnia.
The way to have a peaceful Isreal would have been to establish it in a far different way in the first place. We know that the intent was NOT peace.
Without getting into details because Barbie says "Math is hard!"
So we get lines like "Capitalism is a fact of nature." Or did he say "law of nature?" I actually have him on iggy most of the time.
Take $*** like this to the GB please.
We've tried to keep it friendly, but some snots from GB have infiltrated the thread. it's like they can't get over Obama winning.
Since when is disagreeing with someone's point of view hostile?
I'm no 'snot from the GB', either, sonny. I've been posting here a helluva lot longer than you have and I've never set foot in that cesspool.
You're right there. I can't get over Obama's winning either. Mainly because he's done nothing to improve this country's lot in his first term and if he continues on with his current policies won't in the next four years. Idealize him all you like, but he's exactly what this country doesn't need right now; which is an Anti-Colonialist, Keynesian economic Socialist.
Read about his background sometime. You may be surprised.
...Anti-Colonialist...
"Trickle Down" economics does NOT work. That's what the Busch tax cuts were, just repackaged. It does NOT work, never did, never will. Busch explained that giving the top earners cuts would cause them to reinvest the money into creating jobs.
And that NEVER happened!!
Don't drink too much beer.
“The dividend policy of companies is very often affected by the tax policies of the government. When the taxes on the dividends are too high, then companies don’t distribute, the shareholders don’t get the dividends and Uncle Sam doesn’t get the tax.”
Use examples of how he's a Keynesian, and use of the repeal of the Busch tax cuts for the top earners is not one. All that shows is that you're a Reagan-era economist. Trickled on economics does not work.
“The dividend policy of companies is very often affected by the tax policies of the government. When the taxes on the dividends are too high, then companies don’t distribute, the shareholders don’t get the dividends and Uncle Sam doesn’t get the tax.”
"An unattributed quote makes excellent toilet paper."
except that they didn't do either of those things. The only businesses that grew were the ones that were eating their competitors instead of making business. Ands we can see what happned to those taxpayers and their take-home pay-- they stopped getting any pay to take home at all.Those were the Bush tax cuts, BTW, Busch is a brand of beer. They freed up a lot of working capital to help businesses grow and increased every taxpayers take home pay which also helped the economy.
If the government redistributes wealth, then the money hasn't disappeared into the mawBut we all know which maw money disappears into-- big corporations.Money that disappears into the maw of government helps no one except the government where the economy is concerned. The government neither toils nor spins and produces nothing; it only redistributes wealth and protects the nation. I don't mind funding the latter.
Ho-hum, the old evil Reagan crap. Trickle up economics doesn't work either. A Capitalist economy works best and Keynes was sadly mistaken as Europe is proving as we speak.
QUOTE]You better believe trickle up doesn't work. That's what we've had, that's what's put us in this position. Pyramid schemes.
A capitalist economy is that one you disparaged as "lemonade stands." People trading goods and income back and forth. It's not necessarily glamorous, it's not impressive, it's not the stuff of boyish daydreams-- It's not necessarily global. It is, however, what we have available at this time.
you know what-- forget it. I've just deleted my entire post, because I want to know what the fuck this is in your mind;
See, You People (see what Idid there ) keep claiming that we "idolise" Obama.
I don't recall using that phraseology, but let it pass.
He's right of center. We KNOW that, we KNEW it. We voted for him BECAUSE he was the CLOSEST to center that was in the field.
Obama's in the center? How can you say that with a straight face? His parents, mentors and friends were either Communists, Socialists or Radicals. If that upbringing sends people to the center, Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin must have made a wrong turn somewhere.
If I wanted to be a wild-eyed radical Lib, I would have voted for Roseanne Barr.
Like she had a bat's chance of winning. Much like Ron Paul voters.
Anyway, here you go, this is a classic reaganomic pyramid scheme; http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/18/1162786/-Inside-the-Hostess-Bankery
Hostess liquidation might turn out to be as good as the "legitimate rape" statements are, for showing the GOP to be oinking liars.
tough noogies, it's getting old. It's still true that we are seeing the repercussions of a failed economic theory.The evil Reagan crap again. This is getting old.
no duh.Anyway, companies are formed to produce a product or service desired by the consuming public...
well, that's the theory, anyway. Funny though-- it's not working real well, is it?...not to provide jobs. The jobs offered are those necessary to manufacture or supply said services or products and workers salaries are paid commensurable with a workers talents. This gives workers the incentive to do better, earn a larger salary and advance in the company.
dear heart, if you keep reading beliefs into my words, and if you decide that the beliefs you are reading in are "pathetically simple" we are going to stop having all this fun.Hostess could not compete successfully in the marketplace and declared bankruptcy, plain and simple. I'm sure poor management, delayed equipment upgrades, an antiquated distribution system and poor product placement had a lot to do with it and I'm sure union wage demands didn't help either.
To paint this business failure as a conspiracy against the union or that union demands wholly caused Hostess' demise is pathetically simplistic.
Those were the Bush tax cuts. They freed up a lot of working capital to help businesses grow and increased every taxpayers take home pay which also helped the economy. Money that disappears into the maw of government helps no one except the government where the economy is concerned. The government neither toils nor spins and produces nothing; it only redistributes wealth and protects the nation. I don't mind funding the latter.
Ho-hum, the old evil Reagan crap. Trickle up economics doesn't work either. A Capitalist economy works best and Keynes was sadly mistaken as Europe is proving as we speak.
Next.
Cutting basic social welfare is not a good idea in a recession. It will lead to a very fast collapse of consumer demand and instant depression. Do that in the good times - as Clinton did.