What to do with a sociopath

[badbabysitter]

In the wake of the horrific shooting, I keep seeing a couple memes continually present themselves

one of them is the truly deplorably sick attempts to blame politicians for this


the other was something that raised a curious eyebrow

that being " we need to lock up dangerous people"

except, when do we definie them as being dangerous.. and are we to punish someone for crimes they haven't yet commited

case in point in my own back yard


Kayla Bourque looks like the girl next door, she was a 22 year old student in residence studying criminology

she is also a sexual sadist, a narcissist and sociopath

at the begining of last year she confessed to another student her fantasies of killing and torture, she described how she would wander the streets of skid row with a concealed gun relishing the thought of just taking it out and killing a homeless person

she also had a " kill kit" in her possesions; garbage bags, serrated knives, needles and razors

she even confessed to filming the torturing, maiming and butchering of familly pets

the kit was found, the gun was found, and the videos were found when the student reported this to the school, and psychiatric experts were called in

she went to jail for the crimes against the animals, but was just released


yes, she has requested supervision so that she never acts on these thoughts, but in the end... she is a serial killer waiting to happen


so what do we do with her?

she has killed no one, been punished for the crimes she actually commited, and is in full control of her faculties

what do you do with someone who is a nightmare made flesh... but has done nothing?

lock her up? that would be draconian and allow a slippery slope to imprisoning anyone an administration could deem as " dangerous"

 

[Sean Renaud]

You don't really do anything with them. The vast majority of sociopaths are completely harmless. I know I'm not a serial killer waiting to happen. I just happen to not give a shit about your feelings.

 

[badbabysitter]

You don't really do anything with them. The vast majority of sociopaths are completely harmless. I know I'm not a serial killer waiting to happen. I just happen to not give a shit about your feelings.

but do you carry a kill kit and a loaded gun around when you go out for walks?

she does

 

[Squibbs]

er-lie in the mournin'?

 

[richard_daily]

You don't really do anything with them. The vast majority of sociopaths are completely harmless. I know I'm not a serial killer waiting to happen. I just happen to not give a shit about your feelings.

Sociopaths are never harmless.

They may not ever kill or hurt someone, but they will always do damage to those around them in one way or another.

 

[blobfish]

What people need to realize is that some things are unpreventable.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Sociopaths are never harmless.

They may not ever kill or hurt someone, but they will always do damage to those around them in one way or another.

Not true. There are plenty of sociopaths who lead very constructive lives and add great value to their community.

 

[richard_daily]

Not true. There are plenty of sociopaths who lead very constructive lives and add great value to their community.

and you're claiming that they don't cause any harm to those around them in any way?

Then they're not sociopaths.

 

[badbabysitter]

Not true. There are plenty of sociopaths who lead very constructive lives and add great value to their community.

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of pyschopaths


a psychopath doesnt care about your feelings


a sociopath doesnt have any feelings

 

[Sean Renaud]

and you're claiming that they don't cause any harm to those around them in any way?

Then they're not sociopaths.

Sociopath
a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

They just don't give a shit and don't often don't like people. Nothing about them requires them to harm the people around them. I'd be willing to bet that 90% of big business owners are sociopaths.

 

[nyxie]

Evidently this young woman wants help.

She admitted and has shown others her evidence, to support, her evident thoughts about harming another being.

But she has not enacted on them. Kudos to her.

What to do with her, help her... be aware.

What else is there to do with her?

Nothing... she has done nothing more wrong.

You are enciting the will to keep others from harm before the harm can occur.

That is a dangerous area.

Because what one may concider harm... to another... well...

that is the question....


Oh and.. who walks around with a loaded weapon when they go for a walk?

I do.

And yes I have thought about, and desperately wished, that I could shoot people.

 

[Exquisition]

In the wake of the horrific shooting, I keep seeing a couple memes continually present themselves

one of them is the truly deplorably sick attempts to blame politicians for this


the other was something that raised a curious eyebrow

that being " we need to lock up dangerous people"

except, when do we definie them as being dangerous.. and are we to punish someone for crimes they haven't yet commited

case in point in my own back yard


Kayla Bourque looks like the girl next door, she was a 22 year old student in residence studying criminology

she is also a sexual sadist, a narcissist and sociopath

at the begining of last year she confessed to another student her fantasies of killing and torture, she described how she would wander the streets of skid row with a concealed gun relishing the thought of just taking it out and killing a homeless person

she also had a " kill kit" in her possesions; garbage bags, serrated knives, needles and razors

she even confessed to filming the torturing, maiming and butchering of familly pets

the kit was found, the gun was found, and the videos were found when the student reported this to the school, and psychiatric experts were called in

she went to jail for the crimes against the animals, but was just released


yes, she has requested supervision so that she never acts on these thoughts, but in the end... she is a serial killer waiting to happen


so what do we do with her?

she has killed no one, been punished for the crimes she actually commited, and is in full control of her faculties

what do you do with someone who is a nightmare made flesh... but has done nothing?

lock her up? that would be draconian and allow a slippery slope to imprisoning anyone an administration could deem as " dangerous"

I'd ask Philip K Dick, he wrote about this.

 

[richard_daily]

I'd be willing to bet that 90% of big business owners are sociopaths.

You're proving my point for me.

 

[Sean Renaud]

You're proving my point for me.

Ultimately they do far more good than they do ill. And any ill they do is mostly because they don't give a shit not because they are actively trying to fuck you.

 

[richard_daily]

Ultimately they do far more good than they do ill. And any ill they do is mostly because they don't give a shit not because they are actively trying to fuck you.

a sociopath rarely or never realizes that they're doing anything wrong, but that doesn't mean that they're not hurting anyone.

 

[Sean Renaud]

They almost never realize what they are doing is wrong they don't usually think of what they are doing as good either. That said hiccups aside I don't hate Wall Street.

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

she's one busted bitch i tell ya

 

[julybaby04]

I guess do what is always done....nothing.

Then when they commit a horrific act, much like today, time will be spent blaming guns, his illness, his family, bullies...or whatever the case may be. People will be blamed for noticing these behaviors and doing nothing. Law enforcement or social workers will be blamed for knowing there were issues of danger and nothing was done.

In the end, people will be killed and either things or other people will be blamed.

The truth is that the person is simply evil and that person is solely responsible for what that person does.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I guess do what is always done....nothing.

Then when they commit a horrific act, much like today, time will be spent blaming guns, his illness, his family, bullies...or whatever the case may be. People will be blamed for noticing these behaviors and doing nothing. Law enforcement or social workers will be blamed for knowing there were issues of danger and nothing was done.

In the end, people will be killed and either things or other people will be blamed.

The truth is that the person is simply evil and that person is solely responsible for what that person does.

And this attitude is exactly why we'll never eliminate. July just made a great list of people that had just one of them stepped up this quite possibly could have been avoided. Instead we just don't care.

 

[richard_daily]

And this attitude is exactly why we'll never eliminate. July just made a great list of people that had just one of them stepped up this quite possibly could have been avoided. Instead we just don't care.

How exactly do you force someone who is incapable of compassion to show some?

 

[renard_ruse]

one of them is the truly deplorably sick attempts to blame politicians for this

But not the truly deplorably sick attempts to blame proponents of gun rights.

You really are a class A prize.

 

[Sean Renaud]

How exactly do you force someone who is incapable of compassion to show some?

You don't have to.

Considering all the issues we're having with Football players and professional wrestlers, maybe having better access to medical care in this country might catch some of these cases before they do something truly dangerous. Clearly some of these people (like the woman in the OP) want help but for whatever reason don't have access to it.

How often after the fact do we find out that everybody was creeped out by the shooter or in the case of Jared Laughner that he'd been to a psychologist and it was quite clear that he had some issues?

Besides, at the end of the day compassion is not required to guide behavior.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

In the wake of the horrific shooting, I keep seeing a couple memes continually present themselves

one of them is the truly deplorably sick attempts to blame politicians for this


the other was something that raised a curious eyebrow

that being " we need to lock up dangerous people"

except, when do we definie them as being dangerous.. and are we to punish someone for crimes they haven't yet commited

case in point in my own back yard


Kayla Bourque looks like the girl next door, she was a 22 year old student in residence studying criminology

she is also a sexual sadist, a narcissist and sociopath

at the begining of last year she confessed to another student her fantasies of killing and torture, she described how she would wander the streets of skid row with a concealed gun relishing the thought of just taking it out and killing a homeless person

she also had a " kill kit" in her possesions; garbage bags, serrated knives, needles and razors

she even confessed to filming the torturing, maiming and butchering of familly pets

the kit was found, the gun was found, and the videos were found when the student reported this to the school, and psychiatric experts were called in

she went to jail for the crimes against the animals, but was just released


yes, she has requested supervision so that she never acts on these thoughts, but in the end... she is a serial killer waiting to happen


so what do we do with her?

she has killed no one, been punished for the crimes she actually commited, and is in full control of her faculties

what do you do with someone who is a nightmare made flesh... but has done nothing?

lock her up? that would be draconian and allow a slippery slope to imprisoning anyone an administration could deem as " dangerous"

Prevent her from getting a gun.

 

[blobfish]

Prevent her from getting a gun.

The person that committed today's massacre stole the guns from his mother. At twenty, he was probably not even allowed to own them legally.

 

[ivantheterrible]

in todays larger but very disconnected society you usually never know someone is an absolute nut case until it is too late. there are kids now whom the parents never know because the parents are too busy to relate to their kids.
in a smaller community such as small tribal society it was fairly easy to spot the nut.