What to do with a sociopath

[BotanyBoy]

Like I said man...don't care... you entrust your safety from violent offenders with cops 20 min out on the phone, I trust the .45 ACP at arms reach ready to roll at a moment's notice. That's all there is to it....

As for the kids? 0 fucks given...more died on US roads yesterday anyhow no one QQ'ed about any of those tragedies b/c their isn't a political hot button topic embedded in them for the news to shit bricks and cause hype over.

If it were my school I would say "that sucks" and stroll out to my car and gtfo before I got trapped there all day by the popo, burn a big ass bomber on the way home...put on floyd's animals and call a hooker.

 

[PoppingTom]

As I said: nothing will happen.

Your kids will die, but your guns will survive. American priorities.

 

[BotanyBoy]

As I said: nothing will happen.

Your kids will die, but your guns will survive. American priorities.

Fuck em' I don't have any now and a high probability of never having kids, why should I give a shit?.....not my problem. Besides like I said assholes texting at 75mph kill more kids than shootings each year by a long shot. If they were concerned about lives they would quit handing DL's to any asshole with 25 bucks.

Unfortunately human life is cheap and most times rather worthless, gov doesn't give a fuck and neither does anyone else except to puff themselves up....."Look how much I care!" oh bullshit....in 3 weeks when they find some other load of shit to sensationalize it will be "school shooting what?" like it happened back in the day.

 

[PoppingTom]

Fuck em' I don't have any now and a high probability of never having kids, why should I give a shit?.....not my problem. Besides like I said assholes texting at 75mph kill more kids than shootings each year by a long shot. If they were concerned about lives they would quit handing DL's to any asshole with 25 bucks.

Unfortunately human life is cheap and most times rather worthless, gov doesn't give a fuck and neither does anyone else except to puff themselves up....."Look how much I care!" oh bullshit....in 3 weeks when they find some other load of shit to sensationalize it will be "school shooting what?" like it happened back in the day.

As I said: you solve these problems with ignorance - or shooting on "the evil".

 

[BotanyBoy]

As I said: you solve these problems with ignorance - or shooting on "the evil".

What?

So if I shoot someone who is attacking instead of just taking the beating and waiting for the cops if someone sees it and is kind enough to call them for my curb stomped ass I'm ignorant?

Do I have that correct?

Or are you saying my apathy toward the whole dead kids bit is my solving problems with ignorance?

 

[PoppingTom]

Or are you saying my apathy toward the whole dead kids bit is my solving problems with ignorance?

It's not only your apathy. It's your way to solve the problem: don't care about it. Ignore it. The American way of life: Ignorance, as long as you aren't involved.

Your country did more to ban the word "fuck" then to ban any weapons.

 

[richard_daily]

I must say, I have yet to find a point or opinion you have expressed on this topic that I disagree with. You seem well versed on the subject. Hats off to you.

That being said ~

There is no feasible solution to this problem. At least not any that could not be used to infringe on other human rights father down the road. Combine that with the fact that the Mental Health Care sector is one of the first to feel the sting of abandonment in the form of budget cuts and a lack of support from both politicians and the majority of the populace (much like education and the elderly) and you have an impasse.

And farther more - I must agree with the opinion that it is fool-hearty and naive to measure all human damage in blood and bruises. Psychopaths and sociopaths inflict unprecedented amounts of emotional and mental damage on the populace. These scars often dictate the action (or inaction), ethics and daily lives of those who bear them. These actions enter the river of our society, dulling the ability to experience commonality and community. This dullness bleeds into an inability to trust, a fear of acting on the prompt of compassion and a fanatical need for self-preservation which makes the unity of the human family impossible.

IMHO -

~ Wonderful discussion here, btw. Thanks to the thread creator. Nice to see something relevant and intellectually engaging in this zoo.

The budget cut comment is extremely poignant.

You can't properly take care of people who are mentally ill if it's not a priority. The fact that social workers and even therapists are paid crap in comparison to medical doctors is an indication of how little our society actually values mental health.

Until that changes, we're very likely to see continued instances of this sort of thing on a regular or semi-regular basis.

It sounds like you have had the (dis) pleasure of meeting a sociopath in the flesh.





# Glibness and Superficial Charm

# Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

# Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

# Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

# Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

# Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

# Incapacity for Love

# Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

# Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

# Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

# Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

# Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

# Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

# Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

# Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

 

[richard_daily]

As I said: nothing will happen.

Your kids will die, but your guns will survive. American priorities.

That's a sensationalist argument if I've ever heard one.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's not only your apathy. It's your way to solve the problem: don't care about it. Ignore it. The American way of life: Ignorance, as long as you aren't involved.

You keep saying ignorance but describing apathy....I'm not ignorant of the situation, I know and understand the world I live in and how my being armed plays into it. It's not ignorance, I'm very aware....I just don't give a fuck about other people or their shit. Drowning? Sucks for you I'm rolling out...shooter? If he doesn't pose a threat to me I'm going to dip out.

Why should I give a fuck?

Your country did more to ban the word "fuck" then to ban any weapons.

Yup.....we love guns and violence here in america, what's your point?

 

[ivantheterrible]

ban guns completely?
ever heard of a zip gun?
ban ammo?
you can make your own. time consuming, but easily done.
if someone wants one, they'll get it.

if someone wants to kill. they'll find a way. whether with a gun, a knife, a bow, poison, etc..

what do you want? a "demolition man" or "equilibrium" world? impossible.

 

[Sean Renaud]

ban guns completely?
ever heard of a zip gun?
ban ammo?
you can make your own. time consuming, but easily done.
if someone wants one, they'll get it.

if someone wants to kill. they'll find a way. whether with a gun, a knife, a bow, poison, etc..

what do you want? a "demolition man" or "equilibrium" world? impossible.

The rest of the world disagrees with you. When that guy went crazy in China he used a knife. Why? Cus getting a gun wasn't plausible.

Just repeat after me.

This blood is on my hands and it's the price I pay for freedom. IT's a shame children died for my freedom but that's how it is.

 

[richard_daily]

The rest of the world disagrees with you.

Really?

It's a lot easier to get a fully automatic weapon in most areas of the world than it is in the US.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Really?

It's a lot easier to get a fully automatic weapon in most areas of the world than it is in the US.

Clearly it isn't. It seems like the US has more issues per year than the rest of the world combined has per decade.

 

[ivantheterrible]

The rest of the world disagrees with you. When that guy went crazy in China he used a knife. Why? Cus getting a gun wasn't plausible.

Just repeat after me.

This blood is on my hands and it's the price I pay for freedom. IT's a shame children died for my freedom but that's how it is.

that's a piss poor example. china also has it to where the slightest anti-government SPEECH can get you imprisoned with hard labor or EXECUTED and your organs harvested.

in isreal teachers are armed. in the last ten years there have been only 8 school shooting deaths. in america where teachers are not armed, there have been 323.

 

[mercury14]

that's a piss poor example. china also has it to where the slightest anti-government SPEECH can get you imprisoned with hard labor or EXECUTED and your organs harvested.

in isreal teachers are armed. in the last ten years there have been only 8 school shooting deaths. in america where teachers are not armed, there have been 323.

The population of the USA is 45 times that of Israel. So if you extrapolate those 8 killings to the size of the US population you get 360. So Israel has more teacher shootings per capita than the USA.

 

[richard_daily]

Clearly it isn't. It seems like the US has more issues per year than the rest of the world combined has per decade.

You really don't know what you're talking about on the subject.

If you go to almost any area in africa, you can pick up a fully automatic AK 74 for about $50 cash US.

You can't do that for less than $5000 in the US, a mountain of paperwork and multiple background checks, an LLC set up, and a $200 tax stamp.

 

[ivantheterrible]

@ mercury14 : nonsensical ratio bullshit. in isreal there are nut jobs looking to kill anybody to be a martyr.

i'd rather take my chances being armed, having a teacher that is armed, and still have the ability to tell the government to go fuck itself without worrying about if they'll jail me or execute me for it.

 

[Sean Renaud]

You really don't know what you're talking about on the subject.

If you go to almost any area in africa, you can pick up a fully automatic AK 74 for about $50 cash US.

You can't do that for less than $5000 in the US, a mountain of paperwork and multiple background checks, an LLC set up, and a $200 tax stamp.

I assume you're about to school me on how safe most of Africa is.

 

[richard_daily]

I assume you're about to school me on how safe most of Africa is.

No, I was simply pointing out that you have very little knowledge about what the rest of the world feels about firearms, or access to them in the US.

 

[hobbit.]

if the thread title is the question.. would the answer be - go to a movie? (not dark knight rising though)

 

[Sean Renaud]

@ mercury14 : nonsensical ratio bullshit. in isreal there are nut jobs looking to kill anybody to be a martyr.

i'd rather take my chances being armed, having a teacher that is armed, and still have the ability to tell the government to go fuck itself without worrying about if they'll jail me or execute me for it.

So would I , but I'm willing to accept that these children are dead because of the way that I think.

No, I was simply pointing out that you have very little knowledge about what the rest of the world feels about firearms, or access to them in the US.

I do. You just have to google gun rights and unless your point is that Africa is a safe place and is all hunky dory you pretty much shot yourself in the foot.

 

[berry juice]

what do you do with someone who is a nightmare made flesh... but has done nothing?

lock her up? that would be draconian and allow a slippery slope to imprisoning anyone an administration could deem as " dangerous"

She needs regular therapy with a psychiatrist, and probably meds.

 

[hobbit.]

She needs regular therapy with a psychiatrist, and probably meds.

and possibly executing.

 

[PoppingTom]

and possibly executing.

Shut up, sociopath.

 

[hobbit.]

Shut up, sociopath.

state murder is legal.