The 10 Kinds of Trolls You Will Encounter When Talking About Mike Brown

[IrezumiKiss]

LOL, now there are a full slew of threads from older, paternalistic white men trying to 'study' the behavior of black folks as if they know.


Amazing.

They need to go get laid and STFU

Did a little adjustment on your pitch perfect observation for verity's sake, m'dear.

It's like black folk are alla sudden the new anthropological black (again)...as if it's the 1800's...and once one of them did a thread, the others just couldn't be left out.

Let's look at things as they really are, not through the rheumy eyeballs of these old ascairt codgers, but through the trusty 4D lens of ZumiVision®:


"I say there old boys, in light of current events, here's what I think about these black peoples...their customs, their mores, their habits, their wherewithals...and trust me, it's all indeedably true, because I said so."

"No, no, no, old chaps...my thesis on these black peoples is more reasoned and more concise due to my active observation of their daily lifestyles from several decades, and—"

"Tut-tut! Old fellows, you don't know Negroes like I know Negroes. And trust me, I know Negroes. I've known them for a long time. All of your talk is but poppycock next to my sterling analyses, buttressed by firm reasoning from lengthy anecdotal evidence and whatnot."

"Bah and balderdash, you scurvy lot. No-one is more qualified, more knowledgable, more precise, more keen of judgment than I. I, unlike you, have bravely resided amongst the blacks deep in their urban jungle enclaves for over sixty years to my own social detriment and have chronicled tonnes of essay upon es—"

"No, I know black people better than you!"

"No, I know them better!"

"No, I know the—"

"Shut up! You are the son of a whore, begat from between diseased thighs!"

"What? The devil you say!"

"Prithee, sirrah, do not impugn upon my good graces again, for you shall surely–"

"You old boy, are but a KNAVE. There. I said it. And it's been a long time coming! I never liked the cut of your jib to begin with!"

"A knave, you say!"

"A knave!"

"You gonna let him get away with thaaaaaat!!!!"

"Why, I never...this is but the heights of impudence! And smacks of heresy! You sirs, are no better than the savage, tribalistic blacks that I, in my infinite knowledge, have studied and know better than all of ye!"

"WHAAAAAAAT?"

"The devil you say!"

"He called us tribalistic!"

"The devil you say!"

"Our elder white male harmonic that we have laboured to cultivate for so long has been disrupted by our collective egos!"

"T'is true!"

"We can never go back to the way it was, I fear."

"So, is it war, then?"

"Looks like."

"The devil you say!"

"Knaves, the entire misbegotten lot of you. I wouldn't spend a ha'penny's worth of water on saving your benighted skins if it were alight with the devil's blaze!"

"So be it!"

"The Fellowship is broken!"

"The devil you say!"

"You have no chance to survive, make your time."

"Take off every 'Zig!"

"For great justice."

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Funny...




Neither of you two ever tell the angry old white men who parrot you to stfu because they cannot possible know a damned thing about black people...

 

[RobDownSouth]

Funny...Neither of you two ever tell the angry old white men who parrot you to stfu because they cannot possible know a damned thing about black people...

Attempting to squelch discussion is typically a trait of you and your bros, Chief.
:nods:

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Speaking of the Liberal get off my astroturf crowd...

 

[RobDownSouth]

Speaking of the Liberal get off my astroturf crowd...

Oh, that's right, Chief, only you and your kind are #TrueBelievers

 

[The_Trouvere]

From HuffPo:

Olivia Cole

The 10 Kinds of Trolls You Will Encounter When Talking About Mike Brown...

These people are not harmless. They are part of the problem. Unfortunately I don't have a solution for the problem they pose: they are not interested in self-education. They are not interested in empathy. They are not interested in challenging the worldview that has tucked them in at night and told them the police are here for our protection and that black people deserve what they get. They are interested only in standing very still, while the rest of us move forward. All I can say is this: move on without them. Block, report, and move on without them. Even when they're friends.

You are obviously not interested in a civil discussion in black social pathology. Nevertheless, on the internet you can see that expressions people like you have suppressed persist. This is because the civil rights legislation did not improve black behavior. Instead, black rates of poverty and illegitimacy have increased. Black academic performance has improved little, if at all.

The problem is not white racism. The problem is the black dysfunction that reinforces it generation after generation.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

From HuffPo:

Olivia Cole

The 10 Kinds of Trolls You Will Encounter When Talking About Mike Brown

Posted: 08/19/2014 5:53 pm EDT Updated: 08/19/2014 11:59 pm EDT

If you're paying attention to the events unfolding in Ferguson -- and by God, you better be -- then you probably already know there is a group of people in this country of ours who are determined to change the focus of the conversation about the killing of Mike Brown and the subsequent protests, attempting to shift the lens away from the Constitutional rights of U.S. citizens and the killing of a black teenager. If you're reading this, you probably already know the folks I'm talking about. But here they are. #Staywoke.

The Full-Blown Racist Troll
Block on sight. Some of them are friends of your Facebook friends -- block them. Some of them are your Facebook friends. Many of them are accounts like the one I have screenshotted below: anonymous and relying on blatantly racist language, such as blackface imagery, monkey references, use of the N-word, etc. These have exploded over the last week. We're talking hundreds. I've been using Twitter avidly for years and I can't recall ever seeing quite this much racist bile taking over an event-related hashtag (#Ferguson) as I have this week. Block them and report them for spam immediately.

The "Wait for Evidence" Troll
This troll may or may not be anonymous and pretends to be focused on respecting and upholding the law. "We don't know what happened yet," they say, "wait for evidence before you lambast an officer of the law." They pretend that things like racism, police brutality, police corruption, etc. don't exist and insist that if concrete evidence is released, they will be swayed to feel "sympathy" for Mike Brown. But they won't. When evidence arises, they find objection to its relevance or veracity. They then transform into The "Mike Brown Shouldn't Have [insert human action here]" Troll, to follow.

The "Mike Brown Shouldn't Have [insert human action here]" Troll
This troll (and the others as well) will go great lengths to justify the taking of black life. "He shouldn't have run," "he shouldn't have been sagging," "he shouldn't have been walking down the middle of the street," "he shouldn't have stolen something." These trolls come in all races and will insist that when a police officer (or a homeowner, or a security guard) assaults a person of color, that person must have done something to deserve it. The fact that Mike Brown was shot at least 6 times doesn't register as overkill, even when two of those shots were in the head. They will also extend effort to paint Ferguson as a ghetto, where this kind of thing happens all the time. Nope. Ferguson, Missouri had zero murders.

The "Police Are the Good Guys" Troll
These folks have a blissfully naïve version of police in their heads, the one fed to them since they were children that says police are the good guys and that no matter what they do, they must have had a reason. These people have no concept -- or pretend to have no concept -- of the depth of white supremacy and the way it is ingrained in every facet of our culture... even our police. Because they believe the police are always right -- and usually because they also believe that groups of black people are inherently violent -- they have no qualms about police dressed in military gear, sitting on tanks and tear-gassing American citizens. 'Murica. You may also hear these trolls say, "What about due process?" Well... we would proceed with due process. If they would actually arrest Darren Wilson. Which they haven't. So...

The "Violence Just Begets More Violence" Troll
These people are the riot-shamers. They roll out the word "looters!" at every chance and are not interested in the fact that only a small number of people at the protests have actively looted, or that Ferguson protestors actually locked arms to prevent said looting. These trolls hide behind anonymous accounts, they masquerade as sane coworkers, and they work for CNN and other major media outlets. They focus on the "unrest" in Ferguson and talk about it out of context in an attempt to 1) divert attention away from the killing of an unarmed black teenager and/or 2) disguise their lack of critical thought. As Mia McKenzie of Black Girl Dangerous said so well in this post:



The Concern Troll
These are among the more passive aggressive trolls you will encounter. They not only target victims like Mike Brown with statements like "I wish he hadn't stolen those cigars: he might be alive," but target the community as well, saying things like "Should they really be out there protesting with little kids? I worry about that kind of parenting."

Let me make one thing clear in case you weren't sure: these people aren't worried about the children of Ferguson. They're not actually "concerned" at all," despite their title. These people employ words like "worry" and "I wish" and "concern" to communicate their disapproval of black people doing anything besides playing the Martin Baker role. If they were actually concerned, they would see the images of police with hidden badge numbers, tear-gassing eight-year old girls, and be concerned about the escalation of violence police in Ferguson are responsible for.

The "But What About Black on Black Crime!" Troll
Yes, 85 percent of violent crime against black people is perpetuated by other black people. But guess what? The exact same is true for violent crime committed against white people: the vast majority of those crimes are committed by other white people. People who use the term "black on black crime" either 1) work for Fox News, 2) are seeking to portray black people as violent and out of control, and/or 3) seek to portray black people as only caring about black lives when there is a way to blame white people. Let's run that back: 1) If they work for Fox News...you already know. 2) If we're going to make sweeping statements about people being violent and out of control, perhaps we should focus on young white males. 3) Anyone who would fit with #3 is not interested in facts, otherwise they would be aware of the vast number of organizations and movements to end gun violence in black neighborhoods... spearheaded by black people. The real motivation behind this troll (and all of them really) is to distract from the matter at hand, and that's that an unarmed black teen is dead.

The "Don't Make This A Racial Issue!" Troll
These are the pearl-clutchers. "This could have happened to anyone! Let's not make this a racial issue and instead focus on getting this cop off the street!" Yes, we should focus on getting this cop off the street, but we must also focus on the conditions that made this killing possible, and that is one of racism, white supremacy, and police violence that has been being built and rebuilt since the birth of this country. No, this wouldn't have just happened to anyone. A black male is killed by police every 28 hours in America. This is a racial issue.

These trolls will also accuse you of being racist for talking about racism and start quoting to you all the times black people perpetuated "reverse racism" against white people. Suggested action? Block and keep it moving.

The Misinformation Bots
These are particularly dangerous and I have seen a lot of them in the past week. I won't speculate on where they come from -- although I have a fairly good idea -- but their sole purpose is to spread misinformation about Mike Brown and Darren Wilson, targeting people tweeting under the #Ferguson and #MikeBrown hashtags and sending them to false articles on homemade websites about alternate eyewitnesses that saw Brown attack Wilson, etc. Don't engage with these people: they likely get paid for it. Report them as spam and, you guessed it: keep it moving.

The "I Wish We Could All Just Get Along" Troll
These trolls might mean well. They might. But that doesn't mean they're not trolls. You post/tweet an article and they tweet back, "This is all really bad, but I wish this wasn't happening. Can't we all just get along?" They're trolling you. We all wish we could get along. But right now a boy is dead and is receiving no justice by the system that supposedly exists to protect him. Injecting Pollyanna-isms aren't helping anyone. If you really want to help and the frontlines aren't for you, just donate to the Michael Brown Memorial Fund. And stay out of the way.

This isn't an exhaustive list. When a black person is killed in America, trolls come out of the woodwork in an attempt to justify or distract from the taking of that life. After finishing this post, I'm not even sure "troll" is the right word, but I'm not sure if I have a better one either. Weights, perhaps. Cinder blocks shackled to the rising tide of Americans who want better, believe in better; who see the killing of another black kid in America and say "enough." These people are not merely trolls. "Troll" implies something harmless, a faceless entity in the underbelly of the Internet. These people are not harmless. They are part of the problem. Unfortunately I don't have a solution for the problem they pose: they are not interested in self-education. They are not interested in empathy. They are not interested in challenging the worldview that has tucked them in at night and told them the police are here for our protection and that black people deserve what they get. They are interested only in standing very still, while the rest of us move forward. All I can say is this: move on without them. Block, report, and move on without them. Even when they're friends.

Just another bump-up reminder of what this thread is actually about, since several individuals are putting it in praxis here and elsewhere.

 

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[IrezumiKiss]

Funny...




Neither of you two ever tell the angry old white men who parrot you to stfu because they cannot possible know a damned thing about black people...

Lemme hip you to something you're apparently unaware of, Fail-licia Silverstone...

I tell ALL the angry old white men here, including YOUR angry old half-white ass to STFU and stick your self-serving bullshit where the sun don't shine ALL THE TIME.

You just put in different hours of the day than the rest of them do to see it happening since you, unlike them, actually have a life outside of this place.

Sorta kinda, anyway.

 

[nowisthetime]

Funny...




Neither of you two ever tell the angry old white men who parrot you to stfu because they cannot possible know a damned thing about black people...

I have no issues with you. I have issues with those who think they know ALL black people and their behavior. Many of these people have barely interacted with black folks beyond superficial ways such as dating, marriage, allowing them into their house for dinner. Yet, they THINK they know all about black people. My post was to these arrogant, condescending assholes. I bet they jack off to black guy/white female cuckolding videos.

 

[dan_c00000]

Funny...




Neither of you two ever tell the angry old white men who parrot you to stfu because they cannot possible know a damned thing about black people...

I know for a fact I've called you and proven you to be a racist in several threads. If you refuse to acknowledge or you are illiterate those are not my problems.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I have no issues with you. I have issues with those who think they know ALL black people and their behavior. Many of these people have barely interacted with black folks beyond superficial ways such as dating, marriage, allowing them into their house for dinner. Yet, they THINK they know all about black people. My post was to these arrogant, condescending assholes. I bet they jack off to black guy/white female cuckolding videos.

At what point did I claim anything other than to have a black girlfriend?

I mean, other than my experience as a minority in a white community and then in a forced bussing high school where I was a minority to be fuck with by both races in the little passion play?

You know, when I worked in the city, all the black girls called me that cute Puerto Rican boy and all those oversexed, middled aged black women hit on me every single day. My wife was gone all of three days when the girlfriend showed up. "Hey sugar, where's your wife?"

WHAT THE HELL IS ANGRY ABOUT ANY OF THAT OR ANYTHING I POSTED?
__________________
Don't shoot me! Ahm just the passion play's Player Piano player.
A_J, the Stupid

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I know for a fact I've called you and proven you to be a racist in several threads. If you refuse to acknowledge or you are illiterate those are not my problems.

Look.

We all get it. You're paranoid and delusional. Deal with it...



We do.

 

[RobDownSouth]

At what point did I claim anything other than to have a black girlfriend?

You brought up this purported "black girlfriend" (a fact that in 15 years and almost 200,000 posts never came up before) to "prove" that you weren't no racist.

Seems a tad blatant, no?

Look.
We all get it. You're paranoid and delusional. Deal with it...

We do.

Tell us again how it's okay for you to "nigger" someone but you call for your smelling salts and fainting couch when someone says "gook".

#DoubleStandard
#UnfitToAdoptAmericanChildren

 

[toubab]

I wondered about that too, think about it for a second, both of these guys show up at the same time:

Toubab, prickly humorless white guy who cannot tolerate any criticism....
Smoothg103rd, prickly humorless "black" guy who cannot tolerate any criticism...

So, not suffering fools gladly is being "prickly" in your book. Interesting. As for your other characterization, I don't know how anyone here could possibly think of me as humorless. I, on the other hand, have plenty of reason to question the sense of humor that exists here, or doesn't exist, compared to mine. Prime example:

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1051543

 

[RobDownSouth]

So, not suffering fools gladly is being "prickly" in your book. Interesting. As for your other characterization, I don't know how anyone here could possibly think of me as humorless. I, on the other hand, have plenty of reason to question the sense of humor that exists here, or doesn't exist, compared to mine. Prime example:

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1051543

Yup, you get all prickly when you encounter criticism.
I stand by my characterization of you.
:nods:

 

[toubab]

Yup, you get all prickly when you encounter criticism.
I stand by my characterization of you.
:nods:

Wyoming Institute of Technology. You don't think that's funny? No, you probably don't.

 

[nowisthetime]

How about #11, the trolls that pinch a fit because you call them out for 1-10?

 

[RobDownSouth]

How about #11, the trolls that pinch a fit because you call them out for 1-10?

When they get pressed, they'll tell you that "freedom of speech" on Planet Wingnut implies "freedom from criticism".

 

[nowisthetime]

At what point did I claim anything other than to have a black girlfriend?

I mean, other than my experience as a minority in a white community and then in a forced bussing high school where I was a minority to be fuck with by both races in the little passion play?

You know, when I worked in the city, all the black girls called me that cute Puerto Rican boy and all those oversexed, middled aged black women hit on me every single day. My wife was gone all of three days when the girlfriend showed up. "Hey sugar, where's your wife?"

WHAT THE HELL IS ANGRY ABOUT ANY OF THAT OR ANYTHING I POSTED?
__________________
Don't shoot me! Ahm just the passion play's Player Piano player.
A_J, the Stupid

It went way above your head.

It's all about you, isn't it? I wasn't referring to YOU.

And the (black) women flock to you like flies on shit, chasing after that Indian schlong, huh? Yeah, ok, hot stuff.

Why do they have to be 'oversexed'? Why do you specifically use that term when referring to black women? I was just curious. This is not the first time you referred to them as being 'oversexed' especially in regards to your ex girlfriend wanting to fuck you all night and referencing that Mick Jagger "Some Girls" song. Do you have a problem with women expressing their sexuality?

But anyway, <Applause> for you, Romeo

 

[nowisthetime]

When they get pressed, they'll tell you that "freedom of speech" on Planet Wingnut implies "freedom from criticism".

My my, aren't they a sensitive bunch?

 

[dan_c00000]

Look.

We all get it. You're paranoid and delusional. Deal with it...



We do.

 

[4yourpleasureiam]

then there is the

orfeo troll, you know, the one who says shut up end of discussion. I am right and you are racists. In his world facts do not count

 

[Mrclean_sober]

What about the pro-Brown troll who keeps omitting the part about him apparently breaking the cops eye socket?

Or the pro-cop troll that won't admit that a cop should be able to handle himself without fucking KILLING an unarmed person!

To say this thing isn't racial instantly makes you the Clueless Troll. Both sides seem to feel justified in their outrage, anger over what has happened which includes the aftermath. Holder is right, we are a nation of cowards when it comes to race...both sides are cowardly. Neither side wants to really analyze what their own side has done to get us to this point, we all just keep looking for a reason why it's the other sides fault. In conclusion, we're fucked.

 

[RobDownSouth]

What about the pro-Brown troll who keeps omitting the part about him apparently breaking the cops eye socket?

CNN reported on Saturday there was no, zero, zip, nada injury to Officer PewPew's eye socket. You really need to update your talking points.