suggestions, pretty please...

[MercyMia]

If I may offer something that helps me..
I am simple man.. so this is simple thing.

I take off my shoes and plant my feet on the mother earth.. and look up at the sky or at the stars and know how mighty this life is to me.. but also know how i am in the total scheme of things just a piece.. connected to more pieces.... making a whole.

this brings me back to the feeling that all things matter.

so speaks the humble Druid.

This sounds so sane. Dr Weil also recommends that we stay in touch with nature for our overall health.

 

[Quoll]

[tr][td]"Never Alone"

It's been one of those days
When everything just feels so far away
Hope don't be a stranger
Won't you help me make it through today?

Then a voice comes calling out to me
You're never alone cause I am with you
And I will always be
I will hold you cause you belong to me
You're never alone cause I'll be with you
For all eternity

Someone tell me how I
Stumble into doubting all the time
Some days I'm all together
And other days I stand here asking why

Then a voice comes calling out to me
You're never alone cause I am with you
And I will always be
I will hold you cause you belong to me
You're never alone cause I'll be with you
For all eternity

Then a voice comes calling out to me
You're never alone cause I am with you
And I will always be
I will hold you cause you belong to me
You're never alone cause I'll be with you
For all eternity

[repeat]

You're never alone
You're never alone

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[JustSkye]

*crying*thank you, sweetheart. Thank you.

 

[Tap-Out]

Skye,

Just to echo what everybody else around here is saying. You're not in this thing alone. All you have to do is look around you, and I can guarentee you will find a lot of people who want nothing more than to help you, or to be with you in the good times and the bad. Remember just because times may be good right now, doesn't mean you don't need your friends. When things are going well is when you should hang onto them doubly as tight. That way they can keep the bad from comming back in the first place. But when the chips may seem to be down reach out and I can guarentee you will find a large number of hands reaching back for you.

and for the sweet lady

Jeff

 

[JustSkye]

Skye,

Just to echo what everybody else around here is saying. You're not in this thing alone. All you have to do is look around you, and I can guarentee you will find a lot of people who want nothing more than to help you, or to be with you in the good times and the bad. Remember just because times may be good right now, doesn't mean you don't need your friends. When things are going well is when you should hang onto them doubly as tight. That way they can keep the bad from comming back in the first place. But when the chips may seem to be down reach out and I can guarentee you will find a large number of hands reaching back for you.

and for the sweet lady

Jeff

And thank you for always being one of those friends, sweet Tap.

 

[zerimar1231]

my sister & bf both suffer from depression, they have both tried the herb/natural medicine called Sam-e, you can buy it at your local pharmacy. Sam-e is prescribed in Europe for depression but sold over-the-counter in the US. If you go to walgreens.com you can see the info they have on it! I don't know how it feels to be depressed but i know what hopelessness feels like bc my life is the text book definition of it. There's a spanish saying that says: the only thing that has no cure is death! hope this helps!

 

[Tap-Out]

my sister & bf both suffer from depression, they have both tried the herb/natural medicine called Sam-e, you can buy it at your local pharmacy. Sam-e is prescribed in Europe for depression but sold over-the-counter in the US. If you go to walgreens.com you can see the info they have on it! I don't know how it feels to be depressed but i know what hopelessness feels like bc my life is the text book definition of it. There's a spanish saying that says: the only thing that has no cure is death! hope this helps!

Zerimar,

As much as your entire life may seem hopeless, I can assure you that this is not the case. I do understand, more than you could imagine, what you're going through because I'm going through it myself at the moment. However like you have done (even if you don't know you've done it yet), I reached out and found people that wanted to help me. They are beginning to make me realize it's not as bad as it sounds.

If your bf and/or any other family member is going through a rough spot as well, encourage them to come by here and have a read, or post themselves. Also there is another thread in the HT Cafe regarding this topic as well that may be worth a read.

My PM and e-mail is always open to you or anyone else you may think would benefit. And I'm also failrly certain so are a lot of other's on here.

Chin up, it does get better babe

Tap

 

[Quoll]

Nothing to say here, just stopped by to water the flowers.



Hi hon.

 

[JustSkye]

I haven't been in in awhile.


Really down tonight. Trying to smile. But I just don't want to.


Thank you guys for posting. Hi, Tap.

Quoll.. miss you.


I hope others use this thread as they have Quoll's. Vent away, chat, feel free.

 

[Quoll]

I haven't been in in awhile.


Really down tonight. Trying to smile. But I just don't want to.


Thank you guys for posting. Hi, Tap.

Quoll.. miss you.


I hope others use this thread as they have Quoll's. Vent away, chat, feel free.

But I`m right here, always have been.

 

[JustSkye]

But I`m right here, always have been.

thank you, sweetheart.

 

[JustSkye]

Dear Scooby,

Thank you for thinking of me and writing to me.

It's getting better. But as with anything, you can surely have your moments. a have started to come to realize when I bad episode is coming and sometimes know what triggers it. And do my best to ride it out. And having friends to talk to certainly helps. It seems too, that the older I get, I can feel a hormonal depression hit somes times right before 'that time'.
I've been very fortunate to have a dear friend in Quoll. He's walked me through and held me in some very bad times. Times when even those I thought I was closest to weren't around. I love him dearly. He and his wife are simply amazing to me and share a love I hope to find one day.

I think too, that has something to do with the depression in the last several months. I'm on my own and finally living my life the way I wanted to, but no one up here to actually share it with. The 'L' word has been ever ellusive.
I'm not looking FOR that to make 'me' happy. But it's something, like everyone, that I have wanted all my life.
I just have to take things day by day and take each great day or each really crappy one as they come and try to learn from it and take something with me along the way.

I hope you post back here and let me, us ... get to know you. Also I hope too, that you post the book for everyone. Again, thank you for being so kind and thinking of me. Feel free to write any time. I'm sorry I got carried away and didn't respond right away.

I hope you are well.

Skye ~

 

[Private_Label]

Depression

Not physically tired, but tired of it all? I'm struggling more and more to get through every day. ..
...I cannot afford the cost of a doctor or the meds right now ...

I know you said you had no money for medication, but there are also natural alternatives.

St. John's Wort has been used for depression forever, and it has been highly effective for many people. .

In addition to St. John's Wort I'd also like to recomend Valerian.

One thing you need to keep in mind with herbal remedies is that the can and do interact with other medications. If you are taking hormonal birth control, you should think twice before using SJW or Valerian. They worked well for me, but when I learned that they could interact with my high blood pressure med. I stopped taking them.

Other things that have worked for me:
SAMe, it's a supplement like SJW and Valerian, but it can be a bit pricey.

Depression isn't just a mood swing, there is a chemical reaction in your brain that causes it. It can be especially bad if you have chronic depression (I have it) anything that causes you to raise your seratonin and other neurochemical levels the happier you will feel.

I also discovered that flirting outrageously with a friend really boosted my mood. You might want to consider finding a pal to flirt with on line or in person. It doesn't have to be anything serious, just something that makes you feel desirable and interesting and interested.

 

[Quoll]

In addition to St. John's Wort I'd also like to recomend Valerian.

One thing you need to keep in mind with herbal remedies is that the can and do interact with other medications. If you are taking hormonal birth control, you should think twice before using SJW or Valerian. They worked well for me, but when I learned that they could interact with my high blood pressure med. I stopped taking them.

Other things that have worked for me:
SAMe, it's a supplement like SJW and Valerian, but it can be a bit pricey.

Depression isn't just a mood swing, there is a chemical reaction in your brain that causes it. It can be especially bad if you have chronic depression (I have it) anything that causes you to raise your seratonin and other neurochemical levels the happier you will feel.

I also discovered that flirting outrageously with a friend really boosted my mood. You might want to consider finding a pal to flirt with on line or in person. It doesn't have to be anything serious, just something that makes you feel desirable and interesting and interested.

Private_Label
Some great advice on the herbal remedies thanks heaps.

Absolutely no offense meant, but please don`t tell Skye to flirt anymore, there is already a massive trail of drool folowing her around now, the last thing we need here is a flood.

 

[JustSkye]

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Private_Label
Some great advice on the herbal remedies thanks heaps.

Absolutely no offense meant, but please don't tell Skye to flirt anymore, there is already a massive trail of drool folowing her around now, the last thing we need here is a flood.

LOL!! That is soooo not true! But I do love to flirt. Right, baby?

 

[JustSkye]

I miss him.

 

[Quoll]

I miss him.

He feels the same

 

[Guest]

The thing is, I've never ever had time for me. My children have always been with me. And when my day is over is when my head hits my pillow. Vacation? I've never been on one in my life that I can remember other than a school break as a child. I have no money for any of this. That is another part of my struggling. It's just so stressful.
I'm thankful though that you and others have replied to this and are trying to help. Thank you.

This is going to sound stupid and petty, but it works for some people (not all). Go to the grocery store or the pharmacy, look in the vitamin section, and pick up a bottle of something called "St. John's Wort" and also "Rhodiola". The first works for most people, but you need to take it about two days before it kicks in. The second works pretty quickly, and you'll find that it will give you more energy (without making you hyper or jittery) and you'll feel a lot less negative. My partner takes the latter whenever he is having problems at work and he gets depressed. It really does work, it has no side effects, and if you don't see it in the vitamin section of your pharmacy or grocery store you can most likely find it at a GNC or anywhere that sells specialty vitamins and herbal rememedies.

 

[MercyMia]

I thought about this thread because I've been tired for the past couple of weeks. My fatigue is jet-lag related, so I know I should be getting over it soon. But I feel so helpless when, at 10 in the morning, I start yawning and my eyelids droop and my brain goes all mushy. I fight it off by resisting the temptation to snooze. A nap in the middle of the day might mean I'd wake up at 4 pm!!! Dangerous! Then I wouldn't be able to go to bed and get sound sleep later in the night.

Do you still get tired a lot, VSkye?

 

[JustSkye]

This is going to sound stupid and petty, but it works for some people (not all). Go to the grocery store or the pharmacy, look in the vitamin section, and pick up a bottle of something called "St. John's Wort" and also "Rhodiola". The first works for most people, but you need to take it about two days before it kicks in. The second works pretty quickly, and you'll find that it will give you more energy (without making you hyper or jittery) and you'll feel a lot less negative. My partner takes the latter whenever he is having problems at work and he gets depressed. It really does work, it has no side effects, and if you don't see it in the vitamin section of your pharmacy or grocery store you can most likely find it at a GNC or anywhere that sells specialty vitamins and herbal rememedies.

Thank you, Owera. Sorry I didn't see you post this! I am a HUGE procrastinator about so much with regards to myself. BUT I did buy the St.John's wort tea. And I promise to start sipping it soon. Thank you for thinking of me.

 

[JustSkye]

I thought about this thread because I've been tired for the past couple of weeks. My fatigue is jet-lag related, so I know I should be getting over it soon. But I feel so helpless when, at 10 in the morning, I start yawning and my eyelids droop and my brain goes all mushy. I fight it off by resisting the temptation to snooze. A nap in the middle of the day might mean I'd wake up at 4 pm!!! Dangerous! Then I wouldn't be able to go to bed and get sound sleep later in the night.

Do you still get tired a lot, VSkye?

I try soooo hard not to take naps. But there are days that I will just come through the door and *boom* it hits me and I am sooo tired that if I don't, I become nauseous. Most days I will not take one. But last month there were I think, three days ( not in a row ) that I did. Most times I try to only nap for 45 minutes to an hour. But then there are times it's three! AND I can go to bed and sleep my usual time as well.
I'm always tired it seems.

How are you, sweetheart?

 

[MercyMia]

I try soooo hard not to take naps. But there are days that I will just come through the door and *boom* it hits me and I am sooo tired that if I don't, I become nauseous. Most days I will not take one. But last month there were I think, three days ( not in a row ) that I did. Most times I try to only nap for 45 minutes to an hour. But then there are times it's three! AND I can go to bed and sleep my usual time as well.
I'm always tired it seems.

How are you, sweetheart?

Hello pretty lady,

One thing to note about SJW is that it makes you photosensitive, more susceptible to sunburn.

I'm doing okay, VSkye, trying to keep on an even keel.

I know what you mean about being so tired you feel nauseated. I get these funny palpitations when I'm overfatigued--not rapid heartbeats but slow deep irregular ones that make me feel nervous.

Take care. Take several slow, deep breaths--it's just as good as a quick nap!

 

[JustSkye]

Hello pretty lady,

One thing to note about SJW is that it makes you photosensitive, more susceptible to sunburn.

I'm doing okay, VSkye, trying to keep on an even keel.

I know what you mean about being so tired you feel nauseated. I get these funny palpitations when I'm overfatigued--not rapid heartbeats but slow deep irregular ones that make me feel nervous.

Take care. Take several slow, deep breaths--it's just as good as a quick nap!

Thank you, sweetheart.
And thank you for the tip! I'm kinda pale as it is! LOL

 

[Private_Label]

I try soooo hard not to take naps. But there are days that I will just come through the door and *boom* it hits me and I am sooo tired that if I don't, I become nauseous. Most days I will not take one. But last month there were I think, three days ( not in a row ) that I did. Most times I try to only nap for 45 minutes to an hour. But then there are times it's three! AND I can go to bed and sleep my usual time as well.
I'm always tired it seems.

How are you, sweetheart?

Skye, I'm going to ask you something, and it may not seem to make a lot of sense but bear with me...

Do you snore? I snore, and a few years ago started feeling tired all the time no matter how much sleep I got, plus depressed. Turns out I had sleep apnea

Here are a few more links:
American Sleep Apnea Association
NIH article

List of symptoms
What are the symptoms?

The symptoms of OSA [obstructive sleep apnea] develop gradually whereas the symptoms of central sleep apnea may develop suddenly. You may not be the first one to notice you have sleep apnea — it may be a partner or family member who informs you.

Symptoms of both types include:

• Restless sleep
• Daytime sleepiness
• Poor memory and concentration
• Headache in the morning
• Loud snoring
• Change in personality (this can include depression)
• Frequent urination during the night (from your body trying to dump excess carbon dioxide any way it can)
• Night sweats

There can be other symtoms which you may have that are related to this - weight gain is one - if you don't have enough oxygen your body doesn't metabolize fats, carbohydrates and sugars at the same rate.

((hugs)) I hope you find something to help you, sweetness.

 

[Dead Kennedy]

I can empathize with what you were saying about being lonely. I was in my last year of school this past year, and it was damn hard. Lots of deadlines, lots of work (a lot of self-directed study and honors writing) but I had no energy to do it. I was also pretty damn lonely, living in a nice place but felt like I was totally alone. I had friends, a good life, no money troubles, but I still felt awful a lot of the time. Was also smoking too much of the sweet leaf, which scuttled my energy pretty effectively. By the end of the year I was WIPED, and barely felt like I had the energy to do anything.

Anyway, I moved back home (a lonely stretch of highway next to the ocean, surrounded by my clan) and things have been picking up. I've also been studying alternative medicine with my mother (a doc of natural medicine), in particular acupuncture. I'd recommend checking out alternative/ complimentary medicine, it seems to help a lot of people. From what I've read so far, when you get acupuncture you release a lot of natural painkillers and dopamine within the body, and unblock the energy blockages that occur from various illnesses. When you get sick/injured, it damages the flow of energy from your vital organs to the rest of the body (chinese medicine looks mainly at 12 organs/organ groups, which are responsible for most of the major body functions). When you get acupuncture, it's an attempt to make sure those channels are free and clear of obstructions, improving the way your body works. I actually realized in retrospect my own illness was probably due to my kidney's energy being out of whack, strange as it sounds.

Another interesting little thing you should consider is chi kung. I've found some manuals on it over the net, it seems pretty interesting. It's much like tai chi or other slow, flowing exercises that look funny when you do them. While I was a little skepital at first, it works great for building up your own energy, and is very easy to do. It's all based on the premise that by breathing deeply and performing very basic stretches and motions, you actually increase your own energy level, and unblocking some of the blocks that cause illness/tiredness. I've been exploring this for a few weeks and practicing it for about a week now, but I've noticed quite an improvement in my health and feel very energized following my routine. It's something you have to do everyday, but it's more like a moving meditation, and you feel fantastic when done. Anyway, just some thoughts and suggestions, and hope you get back to health soon. Remember, there is no magic bullet for health; you just have to pay attention to it, be mindful of how you feel, and work at getting better. Best of luck.