Since Sandy Hook, at least 374 children have been murdered with guns

[Disgustipated]

Three years ago today, 20 first graders were murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. The massacre shocked the nation, gave a renewed sense of urgency to gun safety groups, and prompted calls for stricter gun control.

But in the years since, federal gun legislation has gone nowhere. With a few exceptions, the trend at the state level has been toward loosening gun restrictions, not tightening them. Gun owners have purchased millions of firearms and applied for hundreds of thousands — perhaps millions — of concealed carry permits.

And throughout it all, the steady drumbeat of children being murdered by guns has gone on unabated. Data from the CDC and the Gun Violence Archive, a nonprofit organization that tracks gun violence, show that since Jan. 1, 2013, at least 374 children under the age of 12 have been murdered using a gun.

Not much movement on "Obama's" gun control. No one has taken away your guns yet many innocent children have had their lives taken away by gun wielding idiots.

 

[butters]

Three years ago today, 20 first graders were murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. The massacre shocked the nation, gave a renewed sense of urgency to gun safety groups, and prompted calls for stricter gun control.



Not much movement on "Obama's" gun control. No one has taken away your guns yet many innocent children have had their lives taken away by gun wielding idiots.

fuck. that's depressing.

 

[lovetoread]

But it didnt happen!!!1!!!

I know cause I watched this youtube vid and it explained the whole plot.

 

[richard_daily]

Three years ago today, 20 first graders were murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. The massacre shocked the nation, gave a renewed sense of urgency to gun safety groups, and prompted calls for stricter gun control.



Not much movement on "Obama's" gun control. No one has taken away your guns yet many innocent children have had their lives taken away by gun wielding idiots.

I can't help but wonder why you're addressing a symptom, rather than the problem?

99% of this sort of violence is due to lack of opportunity, and poor mediation and communication skills (which is often tied in to lack of opportunity).

Unless you want to address the core issue of poverty and social inequality, this type of issue is going to continue, guns or no guns.

 

[Disgustipated]

I can't help but wonder why you're addressing a symptom, rather than the problem?

99% of this sort of violence is due to lack of opportunity, and poor mediation and communication skills (which is often tied in to lack of opportunity).

Unless you want to address the core issue of poverty and social inequality, this type of issue is going to continue, guns or no guns.

The problem is idiots with guns -- which I addressed. How many Sandy Hook victims or killers lacked opportunity?

 

[richard_daily]

The problem is idiots with guns -- which I addressed. How many Sandy Hook victims or killers lacked opportunity?

Adam Lanza had mental issues since the 10th grade, which was well-documented. The failure there was lack of follow-up and lack of mental health, which is a lack of opportunity in it's own right.

Are we talking only about sandy hook, or about the people who killed "374 children murdered by guns", which is the title of this thread?

Please let me know, and I'll focus on what you're asking.

 

[Disgustipated]

Adam Lanza had mental issues since the 10th grade, which was well-documented. The failure there was lack of follow-up and lack of mental health, which is a lack of opportunity in it's own right.

Are we talking only about sandy hook, or about the people who killed "374 children murdered by guns", which is the title of this thread?

Please let me know, and I'll focus on what you're asking.

Didn't Adam get the gun(s) from his parents? Start there. If I'm not mistaken, you're saying people kill people, not guns. I'm saying there are 374 dead kids and we should be talking about them, Sandy Hook and the fact that what we are doing now isn't working. Blocking gun control policies is all fine and good within the laws but isn't about time we at least try something different? Don't we owe it to those dead kids and ourselves?

 

[FGB]

So?

I saw a few in Walmart the other a little choking might help!

 

[Disgustipated]

^^Someone please tell this dumbass that this is an English only thread.

 

[allateup]

Since Sandy Hook, at least 374 children have been murdered with guns

Since Sandy Hook, almost 3 million totally innocent babies have been intentionally killed simply for convenience.

When you going to start championing forceps and vacuum control, wannabe?

 

[Fata Morgana]

Since Sandy Hook, almost 3 million totally innocent babies have been intentionally killed simply for convenience.

When you going to start championing forceps and vacuum control, wannabe?

Fuck 'em.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Three years ago today, 20 first graders were murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. The massacre shocked the nation, gave a renewed sense of urgency to gun safety groups, and prompted calls for stricter gun control.



Not much movement on "Obama's" gun control. No one has taken away your guns yet many innocent children have had their lives taken away by gun wielding idiots.

No one cares, unless they were killed by Muslims.

 

[Disgustipated]

When you going to start championing forceps and vacuum control

I've invested in vacuum and forceps futures. Why would I champion against them?
I know the more children, the better your life is, eeyore.

 

[richard_daily]

Didn't Adam get the gun(s) from his parents? Start there. If I'm not mistaken, you're saying people kill people, not guns. I'm saying there are 374 dead kids and we should be talking about them, Sandy Hook and the fact that what we are doing now isn't working. Blocking gun control policies is all fine and good within the laws but isn't about time we at least try something different? Don't we owe it to those dead kids and ourselves?

Why do you believe that we should be talking about 374 children killed by guns over and above the many thousands more children killed by the root cause: poverty and lack of opportunity?

Adam Lanza had a history of mental illness that is well-documented. He should not have owned a gun, or had access to one, but that failure is on the system first and foremost.

The report Sandy Hook stated this pretty clearly and succinctly.

In addition, the state of Connetecuts report came to a very similar conclusion:

The 114-page report released by the Connecticut Office of the Child Advocate profiled the developmental and educational history of Lanza, the young man who carried out the mass killings at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012. The report noted "missed opportunities" by Lanza's mother, the school district, and multiple health care providers. It identified "warning signs, red flags, or other lessons that could be learned from a review of [Lanza's] life."

.

Neither report mentioned gun control, so why are you bringing gun control into this? The issue has to do with mental illness. I think that's extremely clear.

Do you blame the knife, or the guy who stabbed his wife during an argument?

Would you call for a ban on cars if eeyore or busybody one day snapped and ran people over with one?

If someone acts inappropriately, why would you blame the object that they acted inappropriately with?

Furthermore, Adam Lanza in particuar was a somewhat bright kid, with a very specific motive who planned the attack for months. It is not very difficult for someone manufacture a gun or other weapon (explosives, etc). So even if there was a complete ban on guns (which I'm not sure if you're advocating or not), he still could have easily manufactured one, since he obviously didn't care if he lived or died anyways. I don't think that any broken federal laws would have stopped him, and in fact, had he done so, he could fairly easily have made it fully automatic, which may have resulted in more deaths.

The issue with Sandy Hook is clear, multiple missed opportunities for mental health intervention. Had the system stepped up and done it's job, I don't believe that the massacre would have happened.

Does that make any sense?

 

[allateup]

I know the more children, the better your life is, eeyore.

Really, Bucky? Why is that?

 

[richard_daily]

Since Sandy Hook, almost 3 million totally innocent babies have been intentionally killed simply for convenience.

When you going to start championing forceps and vacuum control, wannabe?

You sound just as irrational and emotional as someone who advocates gun-grabbing.

 

[allateup]

Would you call for a ban on cars if eeyore or busybody one day snapped and ran people over with one?

A wannabe who gets off slapping women around in public and beating and bruising them in private, posting to a wannabe who gets off telling another poster how he'll sexually assault his daughter...

That's rich.

 

[Aella_]

Doctors' groups join Democrats to end ban on gun violence research funding
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...end-federal-ban-gun-violence-research-funding

"Groups present Congress with petition for lifting of ban passed in 1996, calling gun violence ‘a public health problem that kills 90 Americans a day’

Congress passed the ban on federally funded gun violence research in 1996 amid pressure from the National Rifle Association and other pro-gun lobbyists. Efforts to overturn the ban by Democrats in the House of Representatives have so far been thwarted by Republicans, who have dismissed the link between gun violence and public health."

 

[badbabysitter]

Since Sandy Hook, almost 3 million totally innocent babies have been intentionally killed simply for convenience.

When you going to start championing forceps and vacuum control, wannabe?

Actually zero have

because a fetus isnt a person

you wouldn't know that because you're one of the stupidest fucks alive

 

[allateup]

You sound just as irrational and emotional as someone who advocates gun-grabbing.

I'll let you know if I ever give a fuck about what you may or may not think is irrational or emotional, k dicky?

 

[badbabysitter]

I let you know if I ever give a fuck about what you may or may not think is irrational or emotional, k dicky?

Dude, you have yet to make a rational statement, so don't lecture others

 

[snugglestruggle]

The CDC doesn't have any stat's more recent than 2013 posted. The chart is pretty self explanatory, although it refutes your premise. Homicide/Firearm deaths are highlighted in red.

Motor vehicle , Drowning and suffocation are all ranked higher as the cause of death for children and adolescents by age group.

http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/leading_causes_of_injury_death_highlighting_violence_2013-a.pdf

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Gun control advocates NEVER tell us what scope of homicides they are trying to eradicate through INCREASED gun control and yet will still necessarily "tolerate" by virtue of not advocating a total (and thoroughly unrealistic) ban on all firearms.

Typically after mass casualty shootings, the cry is against "assault weapons."

Or the access to guns by the mentally ill.

Assuming that the vast majority of the guns used to kill these 374 children were purchased legally, what was it about any of those purchases that SHOULD NOT have been permitted by law? Because that is the sole purpose of, not just gun control legislation, but ANY legislation, is it not -- prohibit ONLY THAT activity which circumstances argue for prohibiting, and allow everything else?

So who should be allowed to purchase guns, under what circumstances, and are you prepared to "ACCEPT" the virtually certain occurrence of homicides IN SPITE OF those controls?

 

[Disgustipated]

Daily, I'm not a "gun-grabber".

I do believe what we are doing now isn't working. Gun lobbyists cock-blocking ANY sort of gun control is bullshit. I'm not saying the solution is easy but you have to wonder what happens when a gun control opposition lobbyist has a child murdered by a gun, will their tune change?
I don't know.

Snugglestruggleinlife; STFU with this garbage.

Motor vehicle , Drowning and suffocation are all ranked higher as the cause of death for children and adolescents by age group.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Show me some evidence linking poverty and lack of opportunity to these mass murders.

There isn't, but to gun crime and murder in gnereral?

You bet-chya....the link between poverty and violence is undeniable...unless delusional nut.