Obama Rewards Brutal Cuban Dictators

If china in the enemy

why do we send so much money their way? It was the republicans that opened relations with china under Nixon. They could hardly feed themselves until we started to build our factories over there to avoid paying decent wages here.

If they are the enemy than we have made them stronger and helped them to learn all our secrets.

I guess that the wealthy likes china better than they like american workers. If china is a problem, it's because we made them that way, by making them rich buying their slave labor.
 
For KO:

Cuban Intelligence Collection Capabilities An Overview

The principal intelligence collection arms of the Cuban government are the Directorate General of Intelligence (DGI) of Ministry of the Interior, and the Military Counterintelligence Department of the Ministry of Revolutionary Armed Forces. Both have been closely associated with the Soviet and Russian intelligence services. The relationship between these services is likely to continue based upon the June 14, 1993 agreement on military cooperation between Russia and Cuba. The DGI is responsible for foreign intelligence collection. The DGI has six divisions divided into two categories of roughly equal size: the Operational Divisions and the Support Divisions. The operational divisions include the Political/Economic Intelligence Division, the External Counterintelligence Division, and the Military Intelligence Division. The support divisions include the Technical Support Division, the Information Division, and the Preparation Division. The Technical Support Division is responsible for production of false documents, communications systems supporting clandestine operations, and development of clandestine message capabilities. The Information and Preparation Divisions are responsible for intelligence analysis functions. The Political Economic Intelligence Division consists of four sections: Eastern Europe, North America, Western Europe, and Africa-Asia-Latin America. The External Counterintelligence Division is responsible for penetrating foreign intelligence services and the surveillance of exiles. The Military Intelligence Department is focused on collecting information on the U.S. Armed Forces and coordinates SIGINT operations with the Russians at Lourdes. The Military Counterintelligence Department is responsible for conducting counterintelligence, SIGINT, and electronic warfare activities against the United States.[44]

Despite the economic failure of the Castro regime, Cuban intelligence, in particular the DGI, remains a viable threat to the United States. The Cuban mission to the United Nations is the third largest UN delegation, and it has been alleged that almost half the personnel assigned to the mission are DGI officers. The DGI actively recruits within the Cuban emigre community and has used refugee flows into the United States to place agents. The DGI collects political, economic, and military information within the United States. More recently, the DGI has started to conduct operations to gain access to technologies required to improve the Cuban economy. Cuba is considered by the United States to be a sponsor of international terrorism and has worked closely with Puerto Rican separatist and Latin American terrorist groups. Much of this activity has been handled through the DGI.[45]

http://fas.org/irp/nsa/ioss/threat96/part03.htm

Not a single source in that mess is less than 30 years old. :rolleyes:
 
Living in teh Past

Not a single source in that mess is less than 30 years old. :rolleyes:

You get the definite feeling sometimes that time stopped for the race-baiting Vettebigot around 1973-1974. Coincidentally, that was the time period when he got cashiered from the USMC (twas the pre-Don't Ask-Don't Tell era).
 
Absolutely! They supported the revolution that damn near resulted in WWIII....
If you're referring to the Cuban missile crisis, the embargo began 2 years before the blockade began, and was fully in place 8 months before.
The embargo had nothing to do with WWIII.

Plus placing all the blame on Cuba for the crisis is a red herring. Cuba asked for the missiles because, in part, the US aided and abetted an invasion of Cuba to overthrow the government.
 
UUUGHHH YOU MEN ARE SOOOOOO BORING!!!! :rolleyes: This is such A BORING discussion!!!
 
I heard a piece on the radio this weekend suggesting that the embargo has had exactly the opposite effect from making the Cubans frustrated with Castro. That, in fact, every hardship people suffer is blamed, not on the government, but on the embargo.
 
Seriously, what da fuq can the U.S. export to Cuba that the commies need? I mean it's not like Detroit is still making parts for '57 Chrysler's anymore.
 
Given The Fraud's track record of appeasement it's only a matter of time before he wants to normalize relations with North Korea.
 
Cubans remind me of stories of soldiers and sailors left behind on islands in WWII that did not have any way of knowing the war is over.

They were trained by the Soviets and no one ever told them the Cold war is over and the US allegedly won.

Come to think of it, no one ever told Putin, either.
 
Not a single source in that mess is less than 30 years old. :rolleyes:

Maybe the Intelligence agencies will share something more current with Salon and we can all look forward to KO's delivery.

I would guess the threat assessment on a lot of backwaters isn't updated very often. Cuba just happens to be located in out backwater. If they had any money we might worry about them.
 
If you're referring to the Cuban missile crisis, the embargo began 2 years before the blockade began, and was fully in place 8 months before.
The embargo had nothing to do with WWIII.

Plus placing all the blame on Cuba for the crisis is a red herring. Cuba asked for the missiles because, in part, the US aided and abetted an invasion of Cuba to overthrow the government.

Have we had a WWIII?
 
No we should embrace the people that allowed the revolution to place nuclear weapons aimed at our people, and spent decades condoning their anti-American activities, and violations of human rights worldwide.:rolleyes:

Their attitudes (which I'm pretty sure your information is about 30 years outdated, like most of it) couldn't possibly have anything to do with our meddling in their government, assisting (then abandoning) a revolt against the Castro's at the Bay of Pigs.
Naaah.
 
Seriously, what da fuq can the U.S. export to Cuba that the commies need? I mean it's not like Detroit is still making parts for '57 Chrysler's anymore.

Tooth paste, deodorant, sanitary napkins, dental floss. Fast food in Cuba is white bread smeared with mayonnaise....5 Star dining adds a sliced tomato to the mayo sandwich.

I suggest we trade the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to Havana (Cubans are fools for baseball) in exchange for Havana whores. All the Havana whores who came to Tampa a century ago are now society matrons with debutante daughters.
 
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One of Vette's favorite go-to's is always "what the American people want." And there's nothing like a good ol' fashioned poll to prove it!

WELL, VETTE? LOOKS LIKE THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT, YA THINK?

His attitude toward the American people's wants is, much like the rest of his attitudes, conditional on whether they align with what HE wants. Or more accurately, what he's told he wants by the far right talking heads.
 
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