Obama Should Face Arrest

I do not think this, but you have made it clear exactly what you think.

If you believe that Trump should remain free, along with those who participated in a violent insurrection of the capital, then you do, in fact, believe in Presidential immunity for criminal behavior such as sedition and treasonoous acts.

In fact you have made several statements stating that this is EXACTLY what you think.

So you have no leg to stand on there, Petukh.

Except this isn't about Trump now is it?
 
Except this isn't about Trump now is it?
Is there a difference? Should Trump be immune from prosecution for insurrection but President Obama not be immune for 'Trumped Up' allegations?

Were the Yemen raid plans that Hegseth circulated officially classified 'SECRET NOFOR' (which means No Foreign Eyes)?
 
Even if at its worst it is true.....Presidential immunity. End of story.
 

Trump Drops an Epic Truth Bomb About Obama and Russiagate​

Matt Margolis | 1:26 PM on July 22, 2025

https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/2025/199/50dc86b9-1935-4e58-9267-bfc334a5e69e-1052x615.jpgAP Photo/Alex Brandon
President Donald Trump just delivered the kind of political broadside that Washington insiders will be talking about for a while. On Tuesday, cameras rolled as Trump sat in the Oval Office and publicly and unequivocally named Barack Obama as the mastermind behind the Russia collusion hoax that consumed years of the country’s time, millions of taxpayer dollars, and nearly derailed a presidency.


“Barack Hussein Obama is the ringleader. Hillary Clinton was right there with him and so was Sleepy Joe Biden, and so were the rest of them — Comey, Clapper, the whole group. They tried to rig an election, and then they got caught,” Trump declared. He didn’t stop with accusations. He delivered a demand for justice familiar to millions of Americans who watched the media and the Democratic Party gaslight the nation about “Russian collusion”: “They tried to rig the election and they got caught, and there should be very severe consequences for that.”

He summed it up in one word: “This was treason.”

President Trump’s latest comments come as new developments put the Obama administration’s fingerprints all over this disgraceful chapter of modern politics.

As PJ Media previously reported, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard recently revealed that Obama orchestrated the manipulation of intelligence to paint Trump as a Russian asset, priming the Deep State for an all-out assault on the legitimacy of his presidency.

Gabbard didn’t sugarcoat it either. “President Obama delivered the conclusion that he wanted the intelligence community to reach,” Gabbard told Sean Hannity on Fox News, “and directed them to find and essentially create and manufacture the intelligence to support the conclusion that he wanted to deliver to the American people.”

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2...rump-accuses-barack-obama-of-treason-n4941986

It's time for the DOJ to go after Obama.
OMG
Paul Manafort, CAMPAIGN CHAIRMAN, admits to giving proprietary polling data to Russian agent

There was high level meeting in Trump Tower with Russian agents

facts btw

it would have been malpractice not to investigate

Can MAGA address facts?

Is prohibition on Bearing False Witness still in bible?
 
Except this isn't about Trump now is it?
Yes it is. There are no grounds for Obama to be arrested, which is the point.

However....
There are PLENTY of legal grounds for Trump to be rotting in prison right now. Treason, committed on January 6th, 2021, being only one of many. Anyone with even an inkling of understanding of the American legal system will realize this. Which is part of the reason you do not....
 
Even if at its worst it is true.....Presidential immunity. End of story.
The President is not above the law. But under our system of separated powers, the President may not be prosecuted for exercising his core constitutional powers. Such powers are immune from criminal prosecution.”
Chief Justice Roberts, majority opinion

But the Court did not define criminal conduct, felonious or otherwise, as part of any “core” duty. Instead, the Court drew boundaries around presidential conduct. Nowhere has the Court suggested that criminal conduct can be “official” if it violates the Constitution or statutory law.
 
But the Court did not define criminal conduct, felonious or otherwise, as part of any “core” duty. Instead, the Court drew boundaries around presidential conduct. Nowhere has the Court suggested that criminal conduct can be “official” if it violates the Constitution or statutory law.
And directing subordinates to investigate into rumors, whether fact or fiction, of Russian associations of a person known to associate with Russia for decades who just happens to be seeking a public office would not be a core duty. Gotcha. Thanks for the clarity.

Even my job has more security and background checks than that.
 
Yes it is. There are no grounds for Obama to be arrested, which is the point.

Except he was referred to the DOJ for investigation. Should the DOJ find grounds, then he should expect to be arrested.

Myself, I'd like to see him indicted.

However....
There are PLENTY of legal grounds for Trump to be rotting in prison right now. Treason, committed on January 6th, 2021, being only one of many. Anyone with even an inkling of understanding of the American legal system will realize this. Which is part of the reason you do not....

Trump has not been charged with, must less convicted of, treason. Thus, your statement is PROVABLY FALSE on its face.

For someone who supposedly knows more about the legal system than I do as an attorney, you seem rather uninformed about the law and the process.
 
But the Court did not define criminal conduct, felonious or otherwise, as part of any “core” duty. Instead, the Court drew boundaries around presidential conduct. Nowhere has the Court suggested that criminal conduct can be “official” if it violates the Constitution or statutory law.

The problem is that criminal conduct could very well be part of the core function and shielded from prosecution. The nature and intent of the criminal conduct could be such that the President would have to commit a crime to fulfill his oath to protect America.

For instance, there are some (a group which doesn't include me) who believe that the 2 bombs dropped on Japan were war crimes since they were not aimed at military targets but were intended to kill civilians. Under your Pierce-The-Veil theory, the President wouldn't be immune.

I'm of the opinion that everything the President does while in office is covered by sovereign and Constitutional immunity and that immunity extends post Presidency for all acts. To say less subjects the president to potential criminal liability and that chills his ability to govern. It also elevates the courts to a position of power over the executive similar to what we're seeing now with the constant challenges to his executive orders and acts.
 
The problem is that criminal conduct could very well be part of the core function and shielded from prosecution. The nature and intent of the criminal conduct could be such that the President would have to commit a crime to fulfill his oath to protect America.

For instance, there are some (a group which doesn't include me) who believe that the 2 bombs dropped on Japan were war crimes since they were not aimed at military targets but were intended to kill civilians. Under your Pierce-The-Veil theory, the President wouldn't be immune.

I'm of the opinion that everything the President does while in office is covered by sovereign and Constitutional immunity and that immunity extends post Presidency for all acts. To say less subjects the president to potential criminal liability and that chills his ability to govern. It also elevates the courts to a position of power over the executive similar to what we're seeing now with the constant challenges to his executive orders and acts.
I don't agree that crimes against the United States or the American people are covered by Presidential immunity.

Hiroshima did have military significance it was the Headquarters of the Japanese Second General Army, responsible for defending all of southern Japan and A major logistics and communication center. Nagasaki was a Major shipbuilding center (Mitsubishi Shipyards). The city produced military equipment, torpedoes, and arms and it was an Important industrial port. Just sayin'.
 
Even if at its worst it is true.....Presidential immunity. End of story.

Only while someone is President are his acts covered by Presidential Immunity.

If, as it would seem, that Mr. Obama influenced or coordinated actions by Brennan or Comey after January 20, 2017 then Mr. Obama can indeed be arrested and prosecuted without running afoul of Presidential Immunity.

If everything he did was dated prior to 1/20/2017 then he skates Scot-free.
 

"“Barack Hussein Obama is the ringleader. Hillary Clinton was right there with him and so was Sleepy Joe Biden, and so were the rest of them — Comey, Clapper, the whole group"
Claims the President who was convicted on 34 felony counts.
 
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