RobDownSouth
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Ah, anecdotal evidence to the contrary.
You convinced me!
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Ah, anecdotal evidence to the contrary.
You convinced me!
The left are not socialists . . .
. . . but they should applaud Communists?
It is quite legitimate for American progressives to criticize various flaws and failures of the Cuban Revolution. But the media and the right are overflowing with such commentary. Only the left can recall, narrate and applaud the long resistance of tiny Cuba to the northern Goliath.
Despite the US embargo and relentless US subversion, Cuba remains in the upper tier of the United Nations Human Development Index because of its educational and healthcare achievements. Cuba even leads the international community in the dispatch of medical workers to fight Ebola. Cuba is celebrated globally because of its military contribution to the defeat of colonialism and apartheid in Angola and southern Africa. Now a new generation of Cuban leaders who fought in Angola is coming to power in the Havana and its diplomatic corps. For example, Rodolfo Reyes Rodríguez, Cuba’s representative to the United Nations, today walks on an artificial limb as a result of his combat in Angola.
How is Obama giving a victory (and it is a victory) to Communist Cuba, either surprising, or cause for celebration?
For those actually supportive of participatory democracy in Cuba, as opposed to those who support regime change by secret programs, the way to greater openness on the island lies in a relaxation of the external threat.
I read where Roberta Jacobson Assistant Secretary of State will lead a delegation to Havana to meet the Castros and discuss future relationships. Here's what she wrote in 1986:
That's an analysis of liberation theology; not one word can be read as an endorsement.
Bullshit. The embargo has hurt Cuba, it's why they still live in the 50s. There sole source of real income comes from Russia and Venezuela, both of which are tanking economically...enter stage left Barack Obama, bent on helping the Castro regime to survive. We got nothing out of the deal, nothing except an aid worker, they got three convicted dangerous spies. We got no concessions from the regime, nothing that will benefit the Cuban people.
I lived through the cold war from beginning to end.
My view is longer than yours. I remember when Castro nationalized American property and business in Cuba. I remember when he allowed the Russians to put nuclear weapons on his soil aimed at us. I remember when Castro and Khrushchev brought the world to the brink of nuclear war. I know what real communism is. I lived through the cold war from beginning to end. I saw it in action in Vietnam. I remember how we propped up the Soviet Union when it couldn't feed it's people. I remember as well, what it got us, nothing.
Bullshit. The embargo has hurt Cuba, it's why they still live in the 50s. There sole source of real income comes from Russia and Venezuela, both of which are tanking economically...enter stage left Barack Obama, bent on helping the Castro regime to survive. We got nothing out of the deal, nothing except an aid worker, they got three convicted dangerous spies. We got no concessions from the regime, nothing that will benefit the Cuban people.
Lifting the embargo may help the Cuban people, then again it's possible it won't, but the embargo sure isn't helping them.
The Castro regime is evil and oppressive, but the embargo isn't hurting them, just the Cuban people.
It was the right decision and past time for it.
It is not the job of the American taxpayer to make life better for communists in Cuba, or any of it's other people who have chosen not to overthrow that regime in 60 years.
Bullshit. The embargo has hurt Cuba, it's why they still live in the 50s.
We got nothing out of the deal, nothing except an aid worker, they got three convicted dangerous spies.
When few thought it possible, Cuba has achieved the return of all five prisoners held for spying on right-wing Cubans who trained at Florida bases and flew harassment missions through Cuban air space. The last three to be released served hard time in American prisons, and are being welcomed as triumphant heroes on the streets of Havana. Three of the Cuban Five served in Angola as well.
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It is known that the private US-Cuba conversations about Alan Gross and the Cuban Five were the most difficult. The United States has never acknowledged that Gross was a de facto spy of a certain type, having traveled five times to Havana to secretly distribute advanced communications technology to persons in Havana’s small Jewish community before he was arrested in 2009. Also problematic for American officials immersed in decades of Cold War thinking was the task of wrapping their minds around the idea that the Cuban Five were political prisoners and not terrorist threats.
We got no concessions from the regime, nothing that will benefit the Cuban people.
I remember as well, what it got us, nothing.
Go ahead and think for a minute that communism in Cuba will die with the Castros.