Moscow: Alexander Dugin daughter Darya dies in car explosion

[LupusDei]

Tonight near Moscow, returning from an event Darya Dugina's Toyota Land Cruiser Prado exploded. Rather violently. She died on the spot. Her father Alexander Dugin was with her at said event, and has been said to be expected to be in the car with her, but at the last moment choose to sit in another car. He arrived at the incident site in a short time (apparently before firefighters).

Why this matters?
Don't be surprised if Russia nukes something in anger. They blame Ukrainians, of course. Hair on fire media storm type blame.

Closest analogy to American politics I can come up with, imagine if Steve Bannon (hypothetical, well known and media star in own right) daughter would die in what very much look like a car bomb addressed to father while Trump was still president.

Alexander Dugin is closest thing to ideologue and political philosopher for Putin's regime, and alleged to be architect of invasion in Ukraine. Although how much real influence he has on Putin is unclear, and some say it's highly exaggerated in the west, he's sometimes called Putin's priest.

The girl, well, she was rather pretty, but petty bitch using her dad's fame for own political business, of course, fully in support of the war and regime, claiming all dissent should be silenced and Russian society "cleansed" and recently visited the ruins of Mariopol cheerfully. A bit more than just for show, although it's not easy to tell in Russia, and it's not unthinkable she's killed by regime for too much independence herself.

The car might have been converted to run on LNG, it's very popular to do in Russia (cheaper fuel), but I'm not sure about that at this time, and while not impossible, this may look a bit too energetic for that sort of accident.

 

[LupusDei]

Evolving story:

She was involved in trying to elect Le Pen in France. Lots of possible additional motives there if she was the target. My conspiracy theory is that its related to the file Trump had on the President of France.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1561163732092424197

 

[Chobham]

Trump? Please get serious. Russian dissidents or Ukraine sympathizers are the more likely explanation.

 

[LupusDei]

Trump? Please get serious. Russian dissidents or Ukraine sympathizers are the more likely explanation.

I don't think it was meant to incriminate Trump, rather the French. But yes, Le Pen is Putin's agent, not unlikely but perhaps even more directly and openly than Trump, and if she's deep in that network, rather other US forces, like CIP could have interest, possibly especially in light of Trump's mishandling of documents.

Ukrainians of course celebrate, but it's a rather risky situation for them, and would be very surprised if they take responsibility, even in the offhanded trolling way they done with some mysterious fires in Russian militarily or strategic objects.

Because the mainstream Russian sentiment right now is like:

Journalist (and advocate of punching women in the face) Egor Kholmogorov pays his respects to Darya Dugina in a touching, if genocidal text: ‘Ukraine is killing off our future and it will succeed unless we kill Ukraine first’

 

[Chobham]

Lupus, Le Pen is no more Putin's 'agent' than Trump was.

The shift is in geopolitics and the West is withdrawing into nationalism. Putin isn't organizing this although he and the Chinese are going to take every advantage they can.

Sit through this;

The End of the World is Just Beginning (1 hour)

I'm not a disciple, but a great deal makes sense whether I like it or not.

 

[EmptyTank]

all I can think of is our parallel with the soviet remnant state and Hunter Biden who is a candidate for the opening scene of casino

 

[LupusDei]

Lupus, Le Pen is no more Putin's 'agent' than Trump was.

Well, Le Pen literally still owes Kremlin money. Even if that doesn't matter any, she tolerates Russia's continuing existence and thus alone is their asset and the enemy. Trump is himself very
much almost a Russian in anything but language (although, in a way even his language use is somewhat almost Russian-ish too), and he openly admires Russian imperialism and seeks to turn US itself into Russia. Yes, the natural end state of the maga is nothing other than Russia.

Putin himself is just an agent of the amorphous forces that yearn to halt human development and return to eighteen century, celebrating stupidity, disaster, disease and violence, and will destroy the planet in their delusional shortsightedness. Russia is the cancer, the sickness that must be eliminated, disarmed, denazified, it's provinces broken off and decolonizated. The others, Trump, Le Pen, Bolsonano, Duerte, etc, are metastasized instances that poison the world.

The shift is in geopolitics and the West is withdrawing into nationalism. Putin isn't organizing this although he and the Chinese are going to take every advantage they can.

Sit through this;

The End of the World is Just Beginning (1 hour)

I'm not a disciple, but a great deal makes sense whether I like it or not.

Ain't watching any videos these days. Have it typed, may scroll over.

But let's trade: read every word Kamil Galeev @kamilkazani had ever written on Twitter about Russia and I may reconsider. Likewise, I'm not necessarily signing anything he says, and may disagree on some simplifications he's making and some apparent peripheral blind spots, but the more outrageous the facts may seem the more reliable he is. His style, well, take that as part of the message it is.

 

[oggbashan]

Given Russia's incompetence at car building, servicing and maintenance, I would not be surprised if it was just an accident.

 

[LupusDei]

Given Russia's incompetence at car building, servicing and maintenance, I would not be surprised if it was just an accident.

They do claim to have found remains of an explosive device. Sure, we can't be sure about anything they say either. And there's seemingly even a suspect already -- who's would likely be a pure scapegoat, in any case.

 

[oggbashan]

They do claim to have found remains of an explosive device. Sure, we can't be sure about anything they say either. And there's seemingly even a suspect already -- who's would likely be a pure scapegoat, in any case.

"Arrest the usual suspects!"

 

[Dribble]

Fear mongers afraid of nuclear war. Some things are worth fighting. If the World stepped together to remove bad people from power...you wouldn't have to have that fear

 

[jaF0]

VonStauffenkov got the wrong side of the table leg again, eh?


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I'd be content with ridding the world of dribbling seditionists.

 

[LupusDei]

VonStauffenkov got the wrong side of the table leg again, eh?

One might think. It was dad's car after all.

Still, there's a range of possibilities. Including, even, that he sacrificed her himself, for ritual purposes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1561320353288359939

Dugin did write articles about children sacrifices, even especially daughter sacrifices, in Bible old testament and beyond. Then, well, he was into a lot of weird shit, and pseudo scientific writings isn't quite that incriminating.

 

[Rightguide]

Tonight near Moscow, returning from an event Darya Dugina's Toyota Land Cruiser Prado exploded. Rather violently. She died on the spot. Her father Alexander Dugin was with her at said event, and has been said to be expected to be in the car with her, but at the last moment choose to sit in another car. He arrived at the incident site in a short time (apparently before firefighters).

Why this matters?
Don't be surprised if Russia nukes something in anger. They blame Ukrainians, of course. Hair on fire media storm type blame.

Closest analogy to American politics I can come up with, imagine if Steve Bannon (hypothetical, well known and media star in own right) daughter would die in what very much look like a car bomb addressed to father while Trump was still president.

Trump wouldn't nuke anything under that scenario. Remember when the Iranians shot down one of our multi-million dollar Drones and the Pentagon wanted to retaliate by bombing an Iranian military base. Trump asked how many civilians would die, they told him 150. He canceled the strike.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Trump wouldn't nuke anything under that scenario. Remember when the Iranians shot down one of our multi-million dollar Drones and the Pentagon wanted to retaliate by bombing an Iranian military base. Trump asked how many civilians would die, they told him 150. He canceled the strike.

He probably determined that it wasn't going to be cost effective to kill only 150 civilians

 

[FireStillBurning]

Love the reference . But the actual line is. “ Round up the usual suspects “

 

[LupusDei]

Closest analogy to American politics I can come up with, imagine if Steve Bannon (hypothetical, well known and media star in own right) daughter would die in what very much look like a car bomb addressed to father while Trump was still president.

Trump wouldn't nuke anything under that scenario.

Maybe not. But what if he had ordered the hit himself specifically to bring his base in rage frenzy easy to direct at any intended target that is subsequently incriminated?

Remember, we are not talking about Trump literally here, but in similes. I sought to indicate the approximate positions in the factional power structure rather than anything else (with very limited knowledge of American behind the facade kitchen) to illustrate the expected widespread social reactions more than anything else.

 

[jaF0]

^^^ I guess you'd have to look at the possibility she might have known certain things ......


Wink, wink, nod, nod.

 

[Dribble]

Why create "theories" when you can't eliminate the simplest explanations? Is Russia at war? Have they witnessed other bombings within the last week?

 

[oggbashan]

Was she, or her father, the target?

 

[Philthy_Phil]

She probably didn't have dinner ready.

 

[LupusDei]

Why create "theories" when you can't eliminate the simplest explanations? Is Russia at war? Have they witnessed other bombings within the last week?

Dugin is more useful for Ukraine alive. The craziest the best. Actually... right there's a possible logic to go for the daughter, and there's be willing, although she was practically unknown in Ukraine herself, but it would have been extremely airtight deniable or else it risks reputation in the west with is crucial at this stage of the war.

 

[KeithD]

I'd go with antiwar Russians and the father being the actual target.

 

[Dribble]

Dugin is more useful for Ukraine alive. The craziest the best. Actually... right there's a possible logic to go for the daughter, and there's be willing, although she was practically unknown in Ukraine herself, but it would have been extremely airtight deniable or else it risks reputation in the west with is crucial at this stage of the war.

Who says she's dead?

 

[LupusDei]

Who says she's dead?

Alexander Dugin's face while standing over her corpse?

However good disappearance plot this could possibly be, it seems exceedingly unlikely the case.