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Sandia said:No, I was talking about whether bugs suffer - if they're not aware of their suffering, they're not suffering. It's just an autonomic response.
seXieleXie said:you're saying that unless you know it's pain then it isn't really pain?
perky_baby said:So, If I'm a vegetable, you can wear my skin as a jacket, ok?
Sandia said:No, I'm saying if you don't feel it it's not pain.
Sandia said:No, I'm saying if you don't feel it it's not pain.
modest mouse said:And, Ruby, I'm sorry but wearing mink is rebellion? That doesnt fly.

Lancecastor said:Well, I suppose you could show up naked at my place in this vegetable jacket:
lavender said:Conforming? This has nothing to do with conforming. That's quite funny actually.
Rebel against the environmentalists
Rebel against those stupid animal lovers
Don't conform to their morals
Be your own person
Kill the minks
Do you know how utterly ridiculous that sounds?

Samuari said:the Queen of Magic wanting to ADD hair to her person
Sandia said:Feel means you're aware of it. In order to feel things you have to be conscious.
Sandia said:No, I'd argue that if you pull the wings off a bug, it is not aware of it. A bug is not aware of anything; it's not conscious.
sunstruck said:
Fur is the badge of the neuvo riche.
perky_baby said:you can peel my skin off me and make a woman suit. It'll be sexy.
ksmybuttons said:
I wear leather. I have the tanned hides from several deer my father killed and haven't found a use for them yet