Mink

Sandia said:
No, I was talking about whether bugs suffer - if they're not aware of their suffering, they're not suffering. It's just an autonomic response.

you're saying that unless you know it's pain then it isn't really pain?
 
seXieleXie said:
you're saying that unless you know it's pain then it isn't really pain?

No, I'm saying if you don't feel it it's not pain.
 
modest mouse said:
And, Ruby, I'm sorry but wearing mink is rebellion? That doesnt fly.

Mouse, I was turning Lav's argument that I shouldn't wear fur because of societal expectations around. I thought that was obvious.

I'm not going to let society as a whole make up my mind for me on any subject.
 
Dee DeeDeet Deety to the tune of the twlight zone

Has everyone compleatly missed the irony of the Queen of Magic wanting to ADD hair to her person instead of dissolving it? There must be some kind of Twilight Zone transference going on here.

:D :D :D
 
Feel means you're aware of it. In order to feel things you have to be conscious.

Lance, I don't work for Percocet... Why are you aware of a job opening?
 
Re: Just bring that banana, okay?

Lancecastor said:
Well, I suppose you could show up naked at my place in this vegetable jacket:

okay, this was more of a buffalo bill comment...

like if I can't feel anymore... you can peel my skin off me and make a woman suit. It'll be sexy.
 
lavender said:
Conforming? This has nothing to do with conforming. That's quite funny actually.

Rebel against the environmentalists
Rebel against those stupid animal lovers
Don't conform to their morals
Be your own person
Kill the minks

Do you know how utterly ridiculous that sounds?


Almost as funny as the "happy chicken" eggs. :D
 
Ok, I'm not going to get into the whole chicken vs mink debate. It's STOOPID and anyone who thinks it a valid argument is STOOPID.

Fact is, I see a person wearing fur and all I can think is, "Wow, what a vain, self obsorbed, boil on humanities ass". If that's the image you want to portray, that's your problem.

Oh, and let me address this whole fur=wealth bullshit. I grew up with some of the oldest money in this country. Fur is the badge of the neuvo riche. People who need to flaunt their wealth for status becuase they have no other way of ingraining themselves into polite society. These are the same people who own houses large enough to be hotels and diamonds that need armed gaurds.

It's gaudy. It's tacky. It is completely without class. It's STOOPID.

You can say you don't care about what people think, but if that were true, you wouldn't need the coat.
 
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Sandia said:
Feel means you're aware of it. In order to feel things you have to be conscious.


this is sounding pretty circular. in order to be concious you have to feel things, in order to feel things you have to be concious.

if you pull the wings off a bug it is aware of it.
 
No, I'd argue that if you pull the wings off a bug, it is not aware of it. A bug is not aware of anything; it's not conscious.
 
I think someone just called me STOOPID.

I suppose she knows it is spelled incorrectly.

Funny, how I didn't call anyone names or judge them, because they disagree with me.

That just makes me want to ignore their points, no matter the validity.

Thanks for the steak on the garbage lid. Well done.
 
Sandia said:
No, I'd argue that if you pull the wings off a bug, it is not aware of it. A bug is not aware of anything; it's not conscious.

okay what are you basing this arguement on?

bugs have the same neuronal structure found in almost every nervous system, including humans. their brains are very small and in most cases actually located in a few different sites on the spinal cord, but most do have some information processing capabilities.
 
Perky, I may have missed your comments, but did you actually say that the killing of an animal for food is no different than the killing of an animal for fashion? (not survival warmth, but fashion. Nordstroms does not provide mink coats to the Inuit people).
 
Face off?

perky_baby said:
you can peel my skin off me and make a woman suit. It'll be sexy.

Would that be like a Hannibal Licked Her kinda thang?

Ooooo...you are kinky.
 
ksmybuttons said:


I wear leather. I have the tanned hides from several deer my father killed and haven't found a use for them yet

You can have them made into nice warm gloves. Also purses, wallets, slippers, etc. If you get enough of them, you can get a leather coat or jacket. We have many such items in my family.
 
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