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SilvaTungDevil
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How about wookie slippers.
Lancecastor
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Skinned Puppies.
Skinned puppies are not my cup of tea, but I see no problem with harvesting wild animals for human use and I make no distinction in that use (luxury, food, etc) as long as the species is managed and harvested in a responsible fashion.
Skinned Puppies for Burlington Coat Factory
sexy-girl said:seeing a woman wear real fur is about as sexy as seeing someone stamp a cat to death to me
but thats just me
i'll shut up now i promise
Skinned puppies are not my cup of tea, but I see no problem with harvesting wild animals for human use and I make no distinction in that use (luxury, food, etc) as long as the species is managed and harvested in a responsible fashion.
Skinned Puppies for Burlington Coat Factory
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Mink FAQ's
Question: What do mink eat?
Answer: Ranch raised mink are fed by-products of the meat, poultry, egg, dairy, and fishing industries. Every year, North American fur farms recycle over half a billion pounds of agricultural by-products that would otherwise be destined for already over-burdened landfills. Worldwide this figure is approximately ten billion pounds annually.
Question: I heard mink are mean. Is that true?
Answer: Yes. Mink are handled with heavy leather mittens, although bit fingers and an occasional stitch or two is just part of the job.
Question: How are mink euthanized?
Answer: There are two recommended methods of euthanasia on fur farms. The only method of euthanasia for mink certified by Fur Commission USA Animal Welfare Committee is carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide gas. For fox it is lethal injection. These methods are both approved by the American Veterinary Medical Association. Almost all fur farms in the United States are regulated by the Fur Commission Animal Welfare Committee. BUHL-FRYE® strongly supports and follows these guidelines.
Question: What happens to the rest of the mink after the pelt is removed?
Answer: We hear this question often and most people are surprised to learn that the entire animal is used. Many everyday products are made from mink such as cosmetics, soaps, perfumes, paint, tires, pet food, fertilizer and (of course) mink oil.
Question: Do you ever get harassed by animal rights activists?
Answer: In the fall of 1997 our farm was vandalized by a group of animal rights activists causing several hundred thousand dollars worth of damage. Although there have been no arrests in connection with the break-in at our farm, there are many activists behind bars for similar crimes at other farms. The F.B.I. has recognized these animal rights extremists as DOMESTIC TERRORISTS. Fur Commission USA is offering a reward of up to $100,000.00 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of anyone that breaks in and causes damage to a fur farm.
Question: Do people have the right to use animals for food, leather and fur?
Answer: All life depends upon other living organisms. We may decide on a personal level that we don't want to eat meat or wear leather, fur or woolens. However, innumerable insects and animals will still be affected, lives and habitat lost, by our need to grow, protect and harvest vegetables and grains. Every plant and animal species has the potential to reproduce in numbers that exceed what its environment can ultimately support. Man, presumably, has the same right as other species to make use of this natural surplus - So long as we protect habitat and manage wildlife populations responsibly.
Question: Hasn't the time come to replace furs with synthetics - For the sake of the animals?
Answer: The choice of synthetics can NEVER be for the sake of the animals. Synthetics are chemical products, the manufacture and disposal of which causes pollution, depletes non-renewable resources (usually petroleum) and disrupts natural ecosystems. Fur, in contrast, is a natural product, a fully renewable resource. Fur farming, along with trapping and hunting are controlled to ensure that fur can be taken year after year - long after even the richest oil well is dry.
Question: What about Endangered Species?
Answer: No fur bearing species is endangered by the fur industry today! This has not been achieved by accident. It is a result of education and careful controls, at national and international levels.
Question: Today's society feels increasingly responsible for reducing animal suffering. Doesn't the fur trade understand this?
Answer: The fur trade has taken these responsibilities very seriously. Fur farmers work closely with veterinary authorities and have developed comprehensive Codes of Practice to ensure the highest possible standards of animal care. Animal welfare concerns relating to the fur trade have been recognized and addressed responsibly. The real threat to the welfare of animals today, as trappers and fur farmers know all too well, is habitat destruction - caused by the excesses of a predominantly industrial society which has lost contact with nature.
Question: Can we really justify harvesting animals for "Fashion"?
Answer: Furs are certainly beautiful, but they are also extremely practical. In colder climates, a high proportion of men and women own furs; they find them lightweight, warm and well-suited to their environment. A fur garment can be remodeled and, with proper care, will outlast its cloth equivalent many times over, as the flourishing market for used furs eloquently testifies. Finally furs are non-polluting and biodegradable - qualities which hopefully will become even more "fashionable" as we become more conscious of our environmental responsibilities.
Question: What do mink eat?
Answer: Ranch raised mink are fed by-products of the meat, poultry, egg, dairy, and fishing industries. Every year, North American fur farms recycle over half a billion pounds of agricultural by-products that would otherwise be destined for already over-burdened landfills. Worldwide this figure is approximately ten billion pounds annually.
Question: I heard mink are mean. Is that true?
Answer: Yes. Mink are handled with heavy leather mittens, although bit fingers and an occasional stitch or two is just part of the job.
Question: How are mink euthanized?
Answer: There are two recommended methods of euthanasia on fur farms. The only method of euthanasia for mink certified by Fur Commission USA Animal Welfare Committee is carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide gas. For fox it is lethal injection. These methods are both approved by the American Veterinary Medical Association. Almost all fur farms in the United States are regulated by the Fur Commission Animal Welfare Committee. BUHL-FRYE® strongly supports and follows these guidelines.
Question: What happens to the rest of the mink after the pelt is removed?
Answer: We hear this question often and most people are surprised to learn that the entire animal is used. Many everyday products are made from mink such as cosmetics, soaps, perfumes, paint, tires, pet food, fertilizer and (of course) mink oil.
Question: Do you ever get harassed by animal rights activists?
Answer: In the fall of 1997 our farm was vandalized by a group of animal rights activists causing several hundred thousand dollars worth of damage. Although there have been no arrests in connection with the break-in at our farm, there are many activists behind bars for similar crimes at other farms. The F.B.I. has recognized these animal rights extremists as DOMESTIC TERRORISTS. Fur Commission USA is offering a reward of up to $100,000.00 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of anyone that breaks in and causes damage to a fur farm.
Question: Do people have the right to use animals for food, leather and fur?
Answer: All life depends upon other living organisms. We may decide on a personal level that we don't want to eat meat or wear leather, fur or woolens. However, innumerable insects and animals will still be affected, lives and habitat lost, by our need to grow, protect and harvest vegetables and grains. Every plant and animal species has the potential to reproduce in numbers that exceed what its environment can ultimately support. Man, presumably, has the same right as other species to make use of this natural surplus - So long as we protect habitat and manage wildlife populations responsibly.
Question: Hasn't the time come to replace furs with synthetics - For the sake of the animals?
Answer: The choice of synthetics can NEVER be for the sake of the animals. Synthetics are chemical products, the manufacture and disposal of which causes pollution, depletes non-renewable resources (usually petroleum) and disrupts natural ecosystems. Fur, in contrast, is a natural product, a fully renewable resource. Fur farming, along with trapping and hunting are controlled to ensure that fur can be taken year after year - long after even the richest oil well is dry.
Question: What about Endangered Species?
Answer: No fur bearing species is endangered by the fur industry today! This has not been achieved by accident. It is a result of education and careful controls, at national and international levels.
Question: Today's society feels increasingly responsible for reducing animal suffering. Doesn't the fur trade understand this?
Answer: The fur trade has taken these responsibilities very seriously. Fur farmers work closely with veterinary authorities and have developed comprehensive Codes of Practice to ensure the highest possible standards of animal care. Animal welfare concerns relating to the fur trade have been recognized and addressed responsibly. The real threat to the welfare of animals today, as trappers and fur farmers know all too well, is habitat destruction - caused by the excesses of a predominantly industrial society which has lost contact with nature.
Question: Can we really justify harvesting animals for "Fashion"?
Answer: Furs are certainly beautiful, but they are also extremely practical. In colder climates, a high proportion of men and women own furs; they find them lightweight, warm and well-suited to their environment. A fur garment can be remodeled and, with proper care, will outlast its cloth equivalent many times over, as the flourishing market for used furs eloquently testifies. Finally furs are non-polluting and biodegradable - qualities which hopefully will become even more "fashionable" as we become more conscious of our environmental responsibilities.
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http://www.fblginc.com/asp/photo_2000/shopping/00704.JPG
for $1590 this is yours. Reversible to leather.
http://www.fblginc.com/asp/photo_2001/shopping/1297_0197.JPG
this one is $4300. I wonder how well it will hold up in the rain?
I might wear an old one for the funk factor. Just not very practical in my life. Too expensive and requires too much care.
I wear leather. I have the tanned hides from several deer my father killed and haven't found a use for them yet. I have a vase of peacock tail feathers.
I eat meat- free range not for the cruelty issue as much as the health.
for $1590 this is yours. Reversible to leather.
http://www.fblginc.com/asp/photo_2001/shopping/1297_0197.JPG
this one is $4300. I wonder how well it will hold up in the rain?
I might wear an old one for the funk factor. Just not very practical in my life. Too expensive and requires too much care.
I wear leather. I have the tanned hides from several deer my father killed and haven't found a use for them yet. I have a vase of peacock tail feathers.
I eat meat- free range not for the cruelty issue as much as the health.
SilvaTungDevil
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perky_baby said:
Now that's my kinda woman! Care to join me for a dinner in hell?
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seXieleXie said:
It's an interesting question - consciousness is inherently mysterious process. However, I base my conclusion on the symplicity of their nervous systems.
Machines can be easily programmed to respond to stimuli. It doesn't indicate consciousness.
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SilvaTungDevil
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perky_baby said:
Well make sure you do your chores. I want three random acts of petty evil and one great work of massive corruption.
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No, I am cruel. I just accept that about myself. I have been raised in a time where things I do for the majority destroy the enviroment. Waste products, fuel, the food I eat, the clothes I wear, all have to do with destroying things.
To quote a fellow debater, "when it comes to killing, degrees don't matter"
To quote a fellow debater, "when it comes to killing, degrees don't matter"
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lavender said:
American weather doesn't justify SUV's either.
Why must there be a justification?
What about freedom of choice?
Clearly you choose not to wear mink...groovy...but there's nothing wrong with those who dig it, Lav.
Hold it....you're not the Style Council....are you???
seXieleXie
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Sandia said:
oh, i thought you were talking about whether or not bugs suffer, not whether or not they have self awareness. i was only remarking that there is every indication that bugs can feel pain, and therefore they are capable of "suffering."
ksmybuttons
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perky_baby said:
The animal you wear is dead. It is not replacing the oils and the fur that fall out. From a mink site:
Q: Will rain ruin my mink garment?
A: A mild rain will not ruin your fur. Just hang the garment up to dry in a well-ventilated room away from direct heat. After it is dry, give the fur a vigorous shake. If your fur gets thoroughly soaked, bring it to a professional furrier for proper treatment.
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perky_baby said:
their bodies continually produce oils which coat their fur in order to repel water and stay warm. obviously when the fur is removed from the animal this no longer happens, though most furs are coated with some sort of synthetic oil in order to achieve the same effect.
