Litiquette

[LusterMunky]

Spins - I think you are wrong. The OP had an idea of what they wanted the thread to be and they have as much of a right to try and keep the thread true to the original concept as the person who decides to go off topic. The concept of thread jacking is built on the sole purpose of being disruptive. Just because one has the ability do have free speech doesn't mean there can't be consequences to what say.

While the thread was a general question , it's genesis was based on people hijacking this thread. And I am telling those that engage in that behavior that it's not welcomed. Don't think of it as rule setting, think of it as a set of societal norms.

I'm so confused.

 

[Spins]

Threads are inherently tough to keep going. Props to anyone who has a successful thread. The "maintenance" or 'upkeep' or whatever you would like to call it is admirable.

Whether you want to call it setting societal norms, policing, or creating an atmosphere of like minded individuals I still believe doing so is no more 'right' or 'wrong' than it is for another person to come into that setting, policing, atmosphere and saying, "Fuck your rules. This is a place for me too."

Like it, or lump it.

It sucks monkey balls to know that something you care about and desire to go in a certain manner is being co-opted for things you do not want them to be co-opted for.

That does not mean your desire is wrong, or that you etiquette is either. Your wants and needs are as valid as the person who is doing 'wrong' in my opinion.

Especially when the forum being used is a public thread that has no more inherent ownership rights than you walking onto a public park and claiming only the game of tag may be played here and you hooligans who are playing hackysack are disrespecting all us decent and kind folk playing tag.

However, I do not believe I am going to be able to come up with any better argument to sway opinion one way or the other.

Thank you for the interesting question and I hope you are able to gain whatever it is from this thread and your general musings on other threads that does not offend your or anyone elses sensibilities.

 

[LusterMunky]

Threads are inherently tough to keep going. Props to anyone who has a successful thread. The "maintenance" or 'upkeep' or whatever you would like to call it is admirable.

So very true, and kudos who those who do, including this thread.

 

[ChainedUp]

Spins - someone definitely has the right to stroll in here and say "fuck your rules". And anyone can respond with "no, fuck you and get the fuck out of here". We can't stop posts, block people from "getting in", or tell them what to say. But the room has the right to expect the behavior to be a certain way. If you don't like it, leave.

What you describe is anarchy amongst the threads, where I say there can be rules. The posters and viewers ultimately decide.

Thanks for the debate.

Threads are inherently tough to keep going. Props to anyone who has a successful thread. The "maintenance" or 'upkeep' or whatever you would like to call it is admirable.

Whether you want to call it setting societal norms, policing, or creating an atmosphere of like minded individuals I still believe doing so is no more 'right' or 'wrong' than it is for another person to come into that setting, policing, atmosphere and saying, "Fuck your rules. This is a place for me too."

Like it, or lump it.

It sucks monkey balls to know that something you care about and desire to go in a certain manner is being co-opted for things you do not want them to be co-opted for.

That does not mean your desire is wrong, or that you etiquette is either. Your wants and needs are as valid as the person who is doing 'wrong' in my opinion.

Especially when the forum being used is a public thread that has no more inherent ownership rights than you walking onto a public park and claiming only the game of tag may be played here and you hooligans who are playing hackysack are disrespecting all us decent and kind folk playing tag.

However, I do not believe I am going to be able to come up with any better argument to sway opinion one way or the other.

Thank you for the interesting question and I hope you are able to gain whatever it is from this thread and your general musings on other threads that does not offend your or anyone elses sensibilities.

 

[rubydlite]

Well Munky...seems you benefit from all this chat...

(Spins)' It sucks monkey balls.....'

Okay...maybe not funny....

To keep to the question I try not to hijack threads...sometimes I'll add a little tidbit...like my princess bride pic earlier.. I dont know about anyone else but I get self conscious..because hijacking sort of makes people pay more attention to you. I try to pm people if I feel I wish to carry on. Sometimes too, more so in the 'would you' threads, I'll deliberately stop posting if I feel it's getting too personal. I know that there's no written rule but I feel it's a courtesy.

 

[JennyNo1]

I've watched this thread with interest, partly because it was my thread (yes, my thread, in that I started it and set the direction for it) that aquagal referred to. The problems arose when a few people monopolized the conversation 24/7 and took it in directions that others who attempted to post found uncomfortable. Several of my friends who attempted to join in PM'd me, wondering what was going on - they wanted to come in and chat and have fun but just couldn't enjoy it. In fact, I couldn't myself. Although things were ironed out eventually, those friends never came back.
Do I "own" that thread? Not technically, no. Can I enforce rules there? No, and there never really were any to speak of. But I do expect people to be considerate. This thread is about etiquette, not rules. Just because there's no rules against something doesn't make it polite or good etiquette. Would you start posting picture after picture of beautiful lingerie in the Battle of the Sexes thread? Probably not. Why? Because it was started with a certain intent, and it flows smoothly because people stick to that intent. There's some chit-chat back and forth along with it, but it doesn't take over the purpose of the thread.

 

[SweetSam42]

I understand that discussions on threads often take on a mind of their own, and that's not always a bad thing, as long as it doesn't carry on too long and comes back around to the theme of the thread (and is entertaining!). There are plenty of places here for people to blurt and chat, and it's fun to do so.

However, as a frequenter of a thread like this one, I happen to enjoy the topics we discuss here, and to hear what people have to say about them. I would hate to lose it. And when people "hijack" a discussion to carry on about something completely unrelated for more than a few posts, it gets tiresome for me.

I think the OP has every right to step in and say something to keep a discussion on track for the rest of us. The OP of this thread has come up with thoughtful discussion topics multiple times a day - he didn't just throw out an idea and let it go. And I think that earns him the right to ask whatever he'd like of the folks who post here.

 

[SweetSam42]

Do I "own" that thread? Not technically, no. Can I enforce rules there? No, and there never really were any to speak of. But I do expect people to be considerate. This thread is about etiquette, not rules. Just because there's no rules against something doesn't make it polite or good etiquette. Would you start posting picture after picture of beautiful lingerie in the Battle of the Sexes thread? Probably not. Why? Because it was started with a certain intent, and it flows smoothly because people stick to that intent. There's some chit-chat back and forth along with it, but it doesn't take over the purpose of the thread.

Perfectly said - it's about being considerate of the people who have made a specific thread a place to gather and discuss topics related to a theme. Simple respect.

 

[JoyDyan]

Threads are inherently tough to keep going. Props to anyone who has a successful thread. The "maintenance" or 'upkeep' or whatever you would like to call it is admirable.

Whether you want to call it setting societal norms, policing, or creating an atmosphere of like minded individuals I still believe doing so is no more 'right' or 'wrong' than it is for another person to come into that setting, policing, atmosphere and saying, "Fuck your rules. This is a place for me too."

Like it, or lump it.

It sucks monkey balls to know that something you care about and desire to go in a certain manner is being co-opted for things you do not want them to be co-opted for.

That does not mean your desire is wrong, or that you etiquette is either. Your wants and needs are as valid as the person who is doing 'wrong' in my opinion.

Especially when the forum being used is a public thread that has no more inherent ownership rights than you walking onto a public park and claiming only the game of tag may be played here and you hooligans who are playing hackysack are disrespecting all us decent and kind folk playing tag.

However, I do not believe I am going to be able to come up with any better argument to sway opinion one way or the other.

Thank you for the interesting question and I hope you are able to gain whatever it is from this thread and your general musings on other threads that does not offend your or anyone elses sensibilities.

I honestly don't care what happens on my thread as long as it's amusing and entertaining...and eventually goes back to cake.

That said, hijacking a thread for a two-person, fifty-post personal conversation is just rude. If you want to do that, start your own thread so people know it's purpose - others can then choose to visit or not visit and don't stumble in looking for the cake thread and have to wade through a personal, three-page running inside joke to find what they came there for in the first place.

 

[stickygirl]

Especially when the forum being used is a public thread that has no more inherent ownership rights than you walking onto a public park and claiming only the game of tag may be played here and you hooligans who are playing hackysack are disrespecting all us decent and kind folk playing tag.

Actually it isn't a public the in the way you describe, since you have to sign up to Lit it is more a club status. Posters occasionally get banned for being assholes.
Never mind their rights to post - they just look like children throwing tantrums on the floor of a supermarket.

ETA

This is a semi public forum. Your 'rights' disappeared as soon as you created an account and agreed to participate in the forum.

Well make your mind up

 

[ydahecnot]

What or where you can post is what board management says you can. I've been at a board or two that cracked down on threadjacks, and they weren't fun places. I've also been at "Wild West" boards, and they were less fun. There should be a middle ground.

 

[stickygirl]

What or where you can post is what board management says you can. I've been at a board or two that cracked down on threadjacks, and they weren't fun places. I've also been at "Wild West" boards, and they were less fun. There should be a middle ground.

Agreed. The question is how long do we wait for them to get bored and go back to the GB? As for the talk of 'rights' FFS. It's not about rights, it's about respect for each other. As soon as someone talks about rights in a forum they may as well have mentioned Hitler and the holocaust ... and then go back to their supermarket tantrum

 

[ChainedUp]

Good morning g Litiquette-izans. I think this mornings topic will be: candy canes, unicorns, and puppy dogs, why do we love them

More maybe more true to the theme of the room, what conversations/thread topics do you just steer clear of. What topic that when you see it you think "nope, not going to get anywhere near that". For me it's anything that smells of politics.

 

[LusterMunky]

What topic that when you see it you think "nope, not going to get anywhere near that".

Thandi

 

[Thandi]

Thandi

Wise decision.

 

[Thandi]

Good morning g Litiquette-izans. I think this mornings topic will be: candy canes, unicorns, and puppy dogs, why do we love them

More maybe more true to the theme of the room, what conversations/thread topics do you just steer clear of. What topic that when you see it you think "nope, not going to get anywhere near that". For me it's anything that smells of politics.

Politics & religion for me.

 

[LusterMunky]

Politics & religion for me.

All of life is politics and religion. Unfortunately most of us have those views irrevocably embedded into our Baby Munky Brains and are not open to new thought or reason. What it is, is. and we ain't budging.

 

[Little_Sister]

For me...
Politics, Religion, and anything to do with pee.

 

[Miasorrow]

Good morning g Litiquette-izans. I think this mornings topic will be: candy canes, unicorns, and puppy dogs, why do we love them

More maybe more true to the theme of the room, what conversations/thread topics do you just steer clear of. What topic that when you see it you think "nope, not going to get anywhere near that". For me it's anything that smells of politics.

War and morality, especially morality..
And this is not intended as a proclamation

 

[Astaylith]

Good morning g Litiquette-izans. I think this mornings topic will be: candy canes, unicorns, and puppy dogs, why do we love them

More maybe more true to the theme of the room, what conversations/thread topics do you just steer clear of. What topic that when you see it you think "nope, not going to get anywhere near that". For me it's anything that smells of politics.

Politics, religion, and race. I love Lit too much to see it turn into Fox News.

 

[stickygirl]

For me...
Politics, Religion, and anything to do with pee.

or poo

 

[ChainedUp]

Politics, religion, and race. I love Lit too much to see it turn into Fox News.

This.

 

[dutchrain]

Too me it is not the topic I want to keep away from (there are some that simply don't interest me and logically I won't post on threads which aren't interesting too me), but more the way it is discussed; GB-way versus Playground-way.

Although I don't engage in politic topics much because most aren't my politics (other country and all) I simply lack the knowledge to engage.

 

[stickygirl]

Too me it is not the topic I want to keep away from (there are some that simply don't interest me and logically I won't post on threads which aren't interesting too me), but more the way it is discussed; GB-way versus Playground-way.

Although I don't engage in politic topics much because most aren't my politics (other country and all) I simply lack the knowledge to engage.

Agreed - I don't even know enough about UK politics to debate it though that isn't a reason to stop most people.

The foam-flecked words of the GB posters reflect the bitterness of their hearts and I don't like being round people with so much hate. They hate each other, but hate themselves more. It's unnerving to witness and rather sad, when it is obvious they wanted to do so much more with their life. Being angry is all they have left.

 

[dutchrain]

Agreed - I don't even know enough about UK politics to debate it though that isn't a reason to stop most people.

The foam-flecked words of the GB posters reflect the bitterness of their hearts and I don't like being round people with so much hate. They hate each other, but hate themselves more. It's unnerving to witness and rather sad, when it is obvious they wanted to do so much more with their life. Being angry is all they have left.

Like you, I prefer people not that lost in the only emotion they have left. My helper-syndrom isn't big enough to take them on, or up with them.