I am prejudiced .....

[GuiltyPleasure]

There is so much stupid in this post I cannot address it all in one sitting.

So..............don't.

 

[Cade Is Here]

Fat people are funny to look at.

Did your dollparts account get banned?

 

[QueenLevitra]

Here it is!

 

[blunt_trauma]

stirrer!

 

[QueenLevitra]

stirrer!

Na, Tesse couldn't find this thread and 2tonrose called her a fuckwit so...Yeah, I guess I am!

:teehee:

 

[Cade Is Here]

....against obese people because they have no excuse - no glands, no genes, just greed and laziness. Say what you will, life-style has a lot to do with it, hours lounging in front of the TV with bowls of carbs and fast food crap.

Village on a Diet proved that years of bad habits can be broken and replaced by healthy ones.

If you disagree bite me, you know i'm right.

You can only hate white people here because rory and mcgee said so. Plus mcgee said it should be legal to beat women. Do you want to see the thread that he says that?

Here it is!

Hey luke... did you get dumped again?

 

[GuiltyPleasure]

Na, Tesse couldn't find this thread and 2tonrose called her a fuckwit so...Yeah, I guess I am!

:teehee:

You do know you make no sense at all ao save your breathe/'puter time.

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

i feel bad for those type of people.. is not like they chose to be that way.

 

[fair_warning]

You understand that on an ^ aircraft we are stuck sitting beside them. Any other time we can just get up and walk away if they bother us.

Actually, we could buy a seat on the next plane, but not many of us have the schedule flexibility to do that.

Yes...I do a LOT of flying and once ended up next to a huge guy which resulted in me having to lean into the aisle just to get space....

ok, what about the slim, tall, good-looking guy with appalling halitosis or BO? what about the cute young woman with wind problems or the extremely aggravating voice/laugh?

most people have something about them any one of us can find irritating if we allow it.

On a plane....the absolute worst seat is to be in front of some little shitter kid that kicks the back of my seat and yanks at TV screen/tray table.

 

[Angellica1612]

You do know you make no sense at all ao save your breathe/'puter time.

Wow, you just responded to a post from nearly a year ago? You're either really obnoxious or just really, really slow on the uptake.

 

[GuiltyPleasure]

Bump because it's topical on Lit once more.....no excuses, exercise, eat less, eat healthy. Simple.

 

[Hard_Rom]

1. Eat food
if your great great grandmother could not identify it don't eat it

2. Mostly plants
Carnivores eat herbivores which eat plants.

3. Not much
Calorie restriction slows the ageing process and reduces cancer

http://michaelpollan.com/articles-archive/unhappy-meals/

1. Eat food. Though in our current state of confusion, this is much easier said than done. So try this: Don’t eat anything your great-great-grandmother wouldn’t recognize as food. (Sorry, but at this point Moms are as confused as the rest of us, which is why we have to go back a couple of generations, to a time before the advent of modern food products.) There are a great many foodlike items in the supermarket your ancestors wouldn’t recognize as food (Go-Gurt? Breakfast-cereal bars? Nondairy creamer?); stay away from these.

2. Avoid even those food products that come bearing health claims. They’re apt to be heavily processed, and the claims are often dubious at best. Don’t forget that margarine, one of the first industrial foods to claim that it was more healthful than the traditional food it replaced, turned out to give people heart attacks. When Kellogg’s can boast about its Healthy Heart Strawberry Vanilla cereal bars, health claims have become hopelessly compromised. (The American Heart Association charges food makers for their endorsement.) Don’t take the silence of the yams as a sign that they have nothing valuable to say about health.

3. Especially avoid food products containing ingredients that are a) unfamiliar, b) unpronounceable c) more than five in number — or that contain high-fructose corn syrup.None of these characteristics are necessarily harmful in and of themselves, but all of them are reliable markers for foods that have been highly processed.

4. Get out of the supermarket whenever possible. You won’t find any high-fructose corn syrup at the farmer’s market; you also won’t find food harvested long ago and far away. What you will find are fresh whole foods picked at the peak of nutritional quality. Precisely the kind of food your great-great-grandmother would have recognized as food.

5. Pay more, eat less. The American food system has for a century devoted its energies and policies to increasing quantity and reducing price, not to improving quality. There’s no escaping the fact that better food — measured by taste or nutritional quality (which often correspond) — costsmore, because it has been grown or raised less intensively and with more care. Not everyone can afford to eat well in America, which is shameful, but most of us can: Americans spend, on average, less than 10 percent of their income on food, down from 24 percent in 1947, and less than the citizens of any other nation. And those of us who can afford to eat well should. Paying more for food well grown in good soils — whether certified organic or not — will contribute not only to your health (by reducing exposure to pesticides) but also to the health of others who might not themselves be able to afford that sort of food: the people who grow it and the people who live downstream, and downwind, of the farms where it is grown.

”Eat less” is the most unwelcome advice of all, but in fact the scientific case for eating a lot less than we currently do is compelling. ”Calorie restriction” has repeatedly been shown to slow aging in animals, and many researchers (including Walter Willett, the Harvard epidemiologist) believe it offers the single strongest link between diet and cancer prevention. Food abundance is a problem, but culture has helped here, too, by promoting the idea of moderation. Once one of the longest-lived people on earth, the Okinawans practiced a principle they called ”Hara Hachi Bu”: eat until you are 80 percent full. To make the ”eat less” message a bit more palatable, consider that quality may have a bearing on quantity: I don’t know about you, but the better the quality of the food I eat, the less of it I need to feel satisfied. All tomatoes are not created equal.

6. Eat mostly plants, especially leaves. Scientists may disagree on what’s so good about plants — the antioxidants? Fiber? Omega-3s? — but they do agree that they’re probably really good for you and certainly can’t hurt. Also, by eating a plant-based diet, you’ll be consuming far fewer calories, since plant foods (except seeds) are typically less ”energy dense” than the other things you might eat. Vegetarians are healthier than carnivores, but near vegetarians (”flexitarians”) are as healthy as vegetarians. Thomas Jefferson was on to something when he advised treating meat more as a flavoring than a food.

7. Eat more like the French. Or the Japanese. Or the Italians. Or the Greeks. Confounding factors aside, people who eat according to the rules of a traditional food culture are generally healthier than we are. Any traditional diet will do: if it weren’t a healthy diet, the people who follow it wouldn’t still be around. True, food cultures are embedded in societies and economies and ecologies, and some of them travel better than others: Inuit not so well as Italian. In borrowing from a food culture, pay attention to how a culture eats, as well as to what it eats. In the case of the French paradox, it may not be the dietary nutrients that keep the French healthy (lots of saturated fat and alcohol?!) so much as the dietary habits: small portions, no seconds or snacking, communal meals — and the serious pleasure taken in eating. (Worrying about diet can’t possibly be good for you.) Let culture be your guide, not science.

8. Cook. And if you can, plant a garden. To take part in the intricate and endlessly interesting processes of providing for our sustenance is the surest way to escape the culture of fast food and the values implicit in it: that food should be cheap and easy; that food is fuel and not communion. The culture of the kitchen, as embodied in those enduring traditions we call cuisines, contains more wisdom about diet and health than you are apt to find in any nutrition journal or journalism. Plus, the food you grow yourself contributes to your health long before you sit down to eat it. So you might want to think about putting down this article now and picking up a spatula or hoe.

9. Eat like an omnivore. Try to add new species, not just new foods, to your diet. The greater the diversity of species you eat, the more likely you are to cover all your nutritional bases. That of course is an argument from nutritionism, but there is a better one, one that takes a broader view of ”health.” Biodiversity in the diet means less monoculture in the fields. What does that have to do with your health? Everything. The vast monocultures that now feed us require tremendous amounts of chemical fertilizers and pesticides to keep from collapsing. Diversifying those fields will mean fewer chemicals, healthier soils, healthier plants and animals and, in turn, healthier people. It’s all connected, which is another way of saying that your health isn’t bordered by your body and that what’s good for the soil is probably good for you, too.

 

[Que]

"Silence of the Yams." Heh

 

[Wife of Bath]

This is excellent.

1. Eat food
if your great great grandmother could not identify it don't eat it

2. Mostly plants
Carnivores eat herbivores which eat plants.

3. Not much
Calorie restriction slows the ageing process and reduces cancer

http://michaelpollan.com/articles-archive/unhappy-meals/

1. Eat food. Though in our current state of confusion, this is much easier said than done. So try this: Don’t eat anything your great-great-grandmother wouldn’t recognize as food. (Sorry, but at this point Moms are as confused as the rest of us, which is why we have to go back a couple of generations, to a time before the advent of modern food products.) There are a great many foodlike items in the supermarket your ancestors wouldn’t recognize as food (Go-Gurt? Breakfast-cereal bars? Nondairy creamer?); stay away from these.

2. Avoid even those food products that come bearing health claims. They’re apt to be heavily processed, and the claims are often dubious at best. Don’t forget that margarine, one of the first industrial foods to claim that it was more healthful than the traditional food it replaced, turned out to give people heart attacks. When Kellogg’s can boast about its Healthy Heart Strawberry Vanilla cereal bars, health claims have become hopelessly compromised. (The American Heart Association charges food makers for their endorsement.) Don’t take the silence of the yams as a sign that they have nothing valuable to say about health.

3. Especially avoid food products containing ingredients that are a) unfamiliar, b) unpronounceable c) more than five in number — or that contain high-fructose corn syrup.None of these characteristics are necessarily harmful in and of themselves, but all of them are reliable markers for foods that have been highly processed.

4. Get out of the supermarket whenever possible. You won’t find any high-fructose corn syrup at the farmer’s market; you also won’t find food harvested long ago and far away. What you will find are fresh whole foods picked at the peak of nutritional quality. Precisely the kind of food your great-great-grandmother would have recognized as food.

5. Pay more, eat less. The American food system has for a century devoted its energies and policies to increasing quantity and reducing price, not to improving quality. There’s no escaping the fact that better food — measured by taste or nutritional quality (which often correspond) — costsmore, because it has been grown or raised less intensively and with more care. Not everyone can afford to eat well in America, which is shameful, but most of us can: Americans spend, on average, less than 10 percent of their income on food, down from 24 percent in 1947, and less than the citizens of any other nation. And those of us who can afford to eat well should. Paying more for food well grown in good soils — whether certified organic or not — will contribute not only to your health (by reducing exposure to pesticides) but also to the health of others who might not themselves be able to afford that sort of food: the people who grow it and the people who live downstream, and downwind, of the farms where it is grown.

”Eat less” is the most unwelcome advice of all, but in fact the scientific case for eating a lot less than we currently do is compelling. ”Calorie restriction” has repeatedly been shown to slow aging in animals, and many researchers (including Walter Willett, the Harvard epidemiologist) believe it offers the single strongest link between diet and cancer prevention. Food abundance is a problem, but culture has helped here, too, by promoting the idea of moderation. Once one of the longest-lived people on earth, the Okinawans practiced a principle they called ”Hara Hachi Bu”: eat until you are 80 percent full. To make the ”eat less” message a bit more palatable, consider that quality may have a bearing on quantity: I don’t know about you, but the better the quality of the food I eat, the less of it I need to feel satisfied. All tomatoes are not created equal.

6. Eat mostly plants, especially leaves. Scientists may disagree on what’s so good about plants — the antioxidants? Fiber? Omega-3s? — but they do agree that they’re probably really good for you and certainly can’t hurt. Also, by eating a plant-based diet, you’ll be consuming far fewer calories, since plant foods (except seeds) are typically less ”energy dense” than the other things you might eat. Vegetarians are healthier than carnivores, but near vegetarians (”flexitarians”) are as healthy as vegetarians. Thomas Jefferson was on to something when he advised treating meat more as a flavoring than a food.

7. Eat more like the French. Or the Japanese. Or the Italians. Or the Greeks. Confounding factors aside, people who eat according to the rules of a traditional food culture are generally healthier than we are. Any traditional diet will do: if it weren’t a healthy diet, the people who follow it wouldn’t still be around. True, food cultures are embedded in societies and economies and ecologies, and some of them travel better than others: Inuit not so well as Italian. In borrowing from a food culture, pay attention to how a culture eats, as well as to what it eats. In the case of the French paradox, it may not be the dietary nutrients that keep the French healthy (lots of saturated fat and alcohol?!) so much as the dietary habits: small portions, no seconds or snacking, communal meals — and the serious pleasure taken in eating. (Worrying about diet can’t possibly be good for you.) Let culture be your guide, not science.

8. Cook. And if you can, plant a garden. To take part in the intricate and endlessly interesting processes of providing for our sustenance is the surest way to escape the culture of fast food and the values implicit in it: that food should be cheap and easy; that food is fuel and not communion. The culture of the kitchen, as embodied in those enduring traditions we call cuisines, contains more wisdom about diet and health than you are apt to find in any nutrition journal or journalism. Plus, the food you grow yourself contributes to your health long before you sit down to eat it. So you might want to think about putting down this article now and picking up a spatula or hoe.

9. Eat like an omnivore. Try to add new species, not just new foods, to your diet. The greater the diversity of species you eat, the more likely you are to cover all your nutritional bases. That of course is an argument from nutritionism, but there is a better one, one that takes a broader view of ”health.” Biodiversity in the diet means less monoculture in the fields. What does that have to do with your health? Everything. The vast monocultures that now feed us require tremendous amounts of chemical fertilizers and pesticides to keep from collapsing. Diversifying those fields will mean fewer chemicals, healthier soils, healthier plants and animals and, in turn, healthier people. It’s all connected, which is another way of saying that your health isn’t bordered by your body and that what’s good for the soil is probably good for you, too.

 

[Hard_Rom]

A long time ago, technically peasants ate healthier than nobles. The rich demanded white flour, white rice, white sugar and lots of meat.

Peasants got whole grain bread, turnips and soup made from ox tails. Literally the tail of the ox. They sold the rest to the nobles.

Eat white rice you get berie-berie from vitamin deficiency. But who has time to cook brown rice. Much easier to use a box of 5 minute Uncle Bens and take a daily vitamin.

Omega-3 oil is derived from Omega-6 oil found in plants/algae. Fish eat zoo plankton which feeds on algae.

Our modern culture has been around for a tiny slice of time in our history. We still eat like our ancestors from 100,000 years ago who would gorge themselves because they did not know when the next meal was going to walk past the cave. Or winter was coming. Old habits die hard.

 

[Lord Pmann]

I can't stress the importance of organic stuff. Everything from organic tomatoes to free range Tylenol. It's a must.

 

[GuiltyPleasure]

Really, when you think about it, it makes sense. We are not spending hours in the fields doing back-breaking work any more yet we eat as if we are.

 

[Que]

I'm not overly impressed with the organic label but I do think there is some value in some of the Heritage strains.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Nor do we have to endure a winter without proper food or wait until harvest to restock.

 

[LIVINRFANTASIES]

Denny

Nothing is new. This is an old fat people bashing thread and there is a new fat people bashing thread. Mostly likely other fat people bashing threads written between these will show up.
Still there are fat people and fat people bashers. As long as the obese get hand outs and don't need to forage for food they will remain fat and their off spring wil be fatter until they explode. Sort of reminds me of that old move THE MEANING OF LIFE.

In time all fat people will explode and the world will be at peace again. Until then pass the tators and a dozen Big Macs.
But give me a diet soda, I'm on a diet.

 

[Lancecastor]

Funny, butters said the opposite in the other thread.

I am shocked!

you are only right to an extent, but there ARE those with reasons not - NOT - excuses for their weight. Bronze has the right of it; most of it is about conditioning and then choice. for the majority of those overweight, myself included, more regulation of intake (not necessarily less, more regularity, not eating late or large single meals) would sort out their issues. when i am eating properly, i eat more food per day than when i don't, but it means the 3-meals per day thing and lots of water and not eating after 7 in the evening. too many of us in this modern age find ourselves going past midday without eating, then grab something high-calorie and quick, then eat a big or calorific meal well past 7 o'clock at night. it goes completely against the way our bodies function best. activity isn't necessarily part of the weight issues either, Tess. it is for some, not others. i get up at 6.15 and rarely sit down at all before 7ish at night. i am lifting, walking, moving all the time. it feels nice to sit down at night and eat something very yummy and, maybe, have one glass of beer. i intend to try and regulate my eating times/fluid intake better now as i don't want to suffer too many joint problems as i get even older.

having said that, to be prejudiced against someone because of their weight rather than the person they are seems small-minded, Tess. because their appearance, their very existence offends you... all about how they 'look'? we can choose to change our accents to whatever's deemed more 'successful' at the time but most (thank goodness) do not - it's not the 60's and the queen's english. still, at least you realise it IS a prejudice - and prejudices are notoriously irrational.