Hermione Captured

[Bammy]

This story is for Harry Potter fans. If your not into Potter then you probably won't understand/enjoy it fully.

I'm proposing a story about when Harry, Ron and Hermione are captured by snatchers and taken to Malfoy Manor to be interrogated. Hermione is taken by Bellatrix Lestrange and tortured for information. In this story, Bellatrix realises she cannot get the info she wants by merely using the Cruciatus curse and must try another method: Sexual Humiliation.

I know there are a fair few stories about this on the web but they all seem to involve Hermione wanting to be with Bellatrix as a lover. So what I'm saying is why not have a bit of non consent? It adds to the sexual humiliation.

The sexual humiliation could include pussy eating, dildos, strapons etc.

 

[MayorReynolds]

I believe that'd be against the rules. Those characters are all underaged for the entirety of the series and from I remember, it's against Lit's 18+ policy to submit a fanfic involving characters largely known for being minors, even if they are above the age of majority in your story.

Specifically you are talking about a scene from Book Seven where Hermione would be at most seventeen, licensed character violation or none.

 

[Bammy]

I believe that'd be against the rules. Those characters are all underaged for the entirety of the series and from I remember, it's against Lit's 18+ policy to submit a fanfic involving characters largely known for being minors, even if they are above the age of majority in your story.

Specifically you are talking about a scene from Book Seven where Hermione would be at most seventeen, licensed character violation or none.

According to her bio on the HarryPotterWikia, Hermione was born in September 1979. The Capture at Malfoy Manor occurred in March 1998, meaning Hermione was 18 at the time.

 

[Bramblethorn]

According to her bio on the HarryPotterWikia, Hermione was born in September 1979. The Capture at Malfoy Manor occurred in March 1998, meaning Hermione was 18 at the time.

Yep, she's 18 by then, but like MR says it may still be problematic when you're dealing with a character who's underage for most of the story. Might be an idea to run that by Laurel before investing a lot of effort into it here.

 

[emap]

Honestly one of the better rules of thumb is simply, who enjoys the stories containing the character you want to use?

Potter is above everything else a series of kids books. Granted the stories are written for teenagers to understand and those who can't manage to think at a higher level. Doesn't change the basic buyer is under the age of 14.

Which means don't touch potter characters with a ten foot pole. Mostly because those who wish to see something like Hermione getting turned into a sex slave are themselves underage, or wish to experience sex with underage. Neither is a good idea to have as a fan base for an 'adult' story.

Yes I know they aged to legal in the course of the movies, and perhaps even in the novels, I watched the movies some. Doesn't mean writing about them having sex is a good idea.

Not to say you can't take the basic idea of Hermione and the situation you mention to make a sex scene. Just don't use the names and make her obviously old enough, model the captive after Emma Watson as she is now even.

 

[Hypoxia]

Mea culpa. I know nothing of Perry Hotter -- haven't experienced the books nor movies. I don't care much for fanfic -- IMHO such displays a great lack of imagination -- but if ya gotta, then ya gotta. And I don't care to write underage human sex. LIT's rules are fine with me.

All that said, there IS a way to turn Hermione into a sex slave. Do it in retrospect. She's an old woman, looking back on her wild youth, at the crazy escapades she got into after she turned 18. Would it work as a story? I dunno. That depends on the storyteller.

 

[MayorReynolds]

You'd still be cutting it dangerously close, Bammy. Potter fanfic/slash has a rather sensitive reputation for being underaged—that was the eyebrow raiser when people started writing them, if I recall.

I read all seven books as field research when I was trying to pen a YA novel. They age up one year or so in each book; Potter's birthday usually happens in the first or early chapters. But if I can make the mistake of confusing where the line is in Deathly Hallows other people can too, easily. If one has to number crunch and match against dates on the Wiki, you run the risk of rejection.

If your story doesn't bend or break the rules, then as suggested create a character who looks like Emma Watson 2015/25 or move Hermione safely beyond 1998. But do talk to Laurel first, because you don't want to spend all the time and energy it takes to write a story only to get shot down at the very end.

 

[EquinoxRising]

I believe that'd be against the rules. Those characters are all underaged for the entirety of the series and from I remember, it's against Lit's 18+ policy to submit a fanfic involving characters largely known for being minors, even if they are above the age of majority in your story.

Specifically you are talking about a scene from Book Seven where Hermione would be at most seventeen, licensed character violation or none.

Correct.

 

[EquinoxRising]

All that said, there IS a way to turn Hermione into a sex slave. Do it in retrospect. She's an old woman, looking back on her wild youth, at the crazy escapades she got into after she turned 18. Would it work as a story? I dunno. That depends on the storyteller.

If Laurel allows that. In the past, she has stated that TV/movie minors could not be "aged up" for a Lit story IF the character was considered under age during the time/scene in question or remained under age through the entire series/movie.

This was debated a lot in the early 00s when pedos wanted Full House (specifically the Olsons) and Harry Potter stories. (One author made a series "Harry Hotter".)

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's not aging up if they are of age in the series itself. Which according to the Wiki Post above she is clearly of age by the end of the series. According to Rubilips (former moderator of SI) all it takes is a single cannonical appearance. Her specific reference was the Brady Bunch did a reunion special years after the show had been cancelled and that brought all the characters (save one or two who were already of age) up to the current age.

Honestly I'd run with it and worst case scenario Laurel shoots it down and you change your character names to "Obviously not Hermoine" and "Clearly not Harry" the same way so many other authors have over the years of writing stories.

This is why the rule is stupid and problematic though. I could run you through dozens of shows that have had a "The next generation" version that should cannonize adulthood for all sorts of people. Legend of Korra happens some 50+ years after Avatar and features several kids of the original cast as well as much of the original cast (those still kicking anyway. Aang is dead, Azula and Sokka are implied but not confirmed dead to my knowledge) but they clearly all survived to adulthood.

If it's the "best known" well that's subjective. The X-Men and Spiderman seem to get bumped back to an unspecified "teen" year every decade or so. So is Spiderman a 17 year old high school student or is he a college grad?

Ultimately my advice is run with it.

 

[Strangebuddy]

Spider-man never left adolescence based on his actions in the comics over the last decade.at least in terms of emotional maturity.

*fanboy rant over*

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yeah but we're strictly speaking about biological age. Otherwise we could argue about how Superman has never had to be a man and make a tough decision because there are no tough decisions when the multiverse literally cannot stop you from rewriting it when you're motivated.

 

[Hypoxia]

Yeah but we're strictly speaking about biological age.

Yes, the imaginary biological age of fictitious characters whose timelines are regularly rebooted so they can be whatever age the writer wishes. I'm reminded of an abbey housing saintly relics. The abbot points to an adult skeleton and says, "These are the bones of St Bugwad." He then points to a child's skeleton and says, "And these are the bones of St Bugwad at age ten!" Think of it as the St Bugwad franchise.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't disagree with you self friend Hypoxia. I only point it out (with noted exasperation) that to Laurel it does make a difference if Sabrina the Teenage Witch is eighteen or seventeen.

What makes it even more fun is the age of the actor/ress matters. Which. . .gah. I tend to just fling and if she challenges it go do the necessary research or just expy it out. Cus it gets to be a headache.

 

[Hypoxia]

I only point it out (with noted exasperation) that to Laurel it does make a difference if Sabrina the Teenage Witch is eighteen or seventeen.

Quite. If I had any inclination to churn out such fanfic (which I don't) I'd have Sabrina the MILF Witch looking back on her college years and non-sexually musing whatever-happened-to? her teen buds. I don't know if such would violate LIT's no-aging-up rule. I suppose (and I could be wrong) that any canonical Sabrina comic portraying her as over 18 could earn a bye. But I don't really care.

 

[EquinoxRising]

I'm proposing a story about when Harry, Ron and Hermione are captured by snatchers and taken to Malfoy Manor to be interrogated.

Specifically you are talking about a scene from Book Seven where Hermione would be at most seventeen, licensed character violation or none.

If the OP wants a story involving a scene where the character was under age, it won't fly on Lit. You can't say "she was eighteen during __________" if it's esentially known she was not.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I. . .don't think so. I think the no aging up rule is actually a 'no making them of age when they aren't' rule. So to use the popular example Bart and Lisa are forever children but I don't think there is anything stopping you from writing about Homer and Marge on their 80th birthday (aside from the fact that you only did that so Bart and Lisa would be in their 40s!)

See and I do get the urge for fanfic from time to time. I appreciate Buffy, Vampire Diaries and Kim Possible. All of which SHOULD pass muster. The first two are 100% confirmed the third passes the soft muster as she graduates High School in the finale and spent the fourth and final season as a Senior in High School. So by the logic that generally holds on Lit she should be fair game.

But meh. I engage in this because it amuses me as much as it annoys. I'm certainly far from above posting on other sites when I want to get something that the rules here say is a no go. IT just generally feels like slumming it. Like I wonder if movie directors ever feel that way when they have to make something direct to DVD not because they couldn't get it funded but because NC-17 movies virtually don't exist. (Hell Showgirls is the only one I can name but I'm sure there are others out there.)

 

[Bramblethorn]

I don't disagree with you self friend Hypoxia. I only point it out (with noted exasperation) that to Laurel it does make a difference if Sabrina the Teenage Witch is eighteen or seventeen.

What makes it even more fun is the age of the actor/ress matters. Which. . .gah. I tend to just fling and if she challenges it go do the necessary research or just expy it out. Cus it gets to be a headache.

Blame the authors who deliberately try to sneak in under-age stories. I remember one that started out with "these characters are all over 18", presumably for Laurel's benefit, and then started describing the MC's body as "pre-pubescent" with behaviour to match - ick ick ick. Using characters who are primarily known as children is one way those authors will attempt to evoke that under-age feel.

I don't have an issue with authors who genuinely want to write an "after they all grew up" story, but unfortunately when you need to filter out people using "all grown up" as a figleaf for something that breaks the rules, inevitably there are going to be false positives.

 

[Bammy]

Wow. I never thought this thread would gather so much attention and debate! I know the whole underage thing bugs people but I only brought up this story idea because of all the 'Bellamione' (yes, they call it that) stories on [name removed] and other erotic fiction sites.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Bellamione. . .you know what I'm done. I didn't even read or watch any of the Harry Potter series. My knowledge can be summed up as Dumbledore dies, Harry is a person and the next person who calls me a muggle will thrown into the sun.

 

[EquinoxRising]

Wow. I never thought this thread would gather so much attention and debate! I know the whole underage thing bugs people but I only brought up this story idea because of all the 'Bellamione' (yes, they call it that) stories on [name removed] and other erotic fiction sites.

Other sites are not Lit. Lit has their rules because they want them. If it can be "proven" a character is/was under the age of 18 in any specific scene of a movie or TV show, Laurel won't allow it as a story on her site.

Better off going to sites that allow minors having sex.






ETA:
I found a "Bellamione" keyword at that site you mentioned... One of the first keywords listed was underage. Please do not mention thst site on this site again.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Why would the key words on another site make any difference at all? I admit to not reading Harry Potter so I speak in a more generic way but as long as the characters (and actors) come of age prior to the conclusion of the story that would make them in bounds wouldn't it?

 

[EquinoxRising]

Why would the key words on another site make any difference at all? I admit to not reading Harry Potter so I speak in a more generic way but as long as the characters (and actors) come of age prior to the conclusion of the story that would make them in bounds wouldn't it?

It seems Bammy requested a specific scene where Hermione was considered under age... He wants an erotic story of said scene. Thus, on Lit, she cannot be "aged up".

Bammy then stated a site he likes where they allow minors to fuck. He wants it at Lit now.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Which leads back to the original problem. I know just because I know Laurel is human that she's not going to read/watch every book/comic/show/movie out there to know if Buffy turned 18 in Season 3 but the MAster died in S1 therefore she can't do that. That would be a tremenous undertaking.

 

[Bramblethorn]

It seems Bammy requested a specific scene where Hermione was considered under age... He wants an erotic story of said scene. Thus, on Lit, she cannot be "aged up".

Nope. Hermione is 18 in the scene Bammy's talking about, which happens near the end of the series.

The issue is whether Hermione is off-bounds because she's under-18 for most of the series leading up to that.