Harry Reid and Barack Obama want a government shutdown.

[Liar]

It's rather interesting to watch the media and some pundits loudly proclaim the end of the republican party. If I've learned nothing else about politics is that today's winner can be tomorrow's loser and that turn of opinion at the polls can occur for reasons that the press and the parties don't recognize until after the election is over.

Yep. When the GOP had a similar sharp dip in favorability in the 90's (Clinton impeachment, I think, or the last shutdown, either or) they re-gained that in the next few weeks, and got back to slightly lower than before but more-or-less normal poll numbers. I suspect the same to happen this time, once the shutdown is out of the news cycle.

It's up to each party to remind people come election time. Might be a game changer, but it's not a given.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Prophesy:

Two days ago the GOP lost my state house district to the Democrats; it was a GOP seat for 20 years, and GOP voters swamp Democrats. There were no Democrat office holders in this county before Tuesday. The Democrat won by a slim plurality, and the turnout was 25%.

I expect the GOP to get the wrong message from the results. They will see a tide running in favor of socialism and not see lack of enthusiasm for RINOs and failure to get out the vote. Our governor spends his time MIA, holding niggruh babies, and kissing teacher ass.

 

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[kbate]

You have a perception problem.

Oh and on lines 9-10 page section 146 there's even a $174,000 for the widow of Frank Lautenberg...Now there's a real national priority! Hey, 15 plus million Americans out of a job but let's send some money to a crony's wife.

SEC. 123. Section 3(a)(6) of Public Law 100–676 is
amended by striking both occurrences of ‘‘$775,000,000’’
and inserting in lieu thereof, ‘‘$2,918,000,000’’.

The above is for a dam project in Kentucky.

I haven't said a word about the 'bill' only about your crying about it being passed.

It isn't my 'perception' that is lacking.

 

[Liar]

Prophesy:

Two days ago the GOP lost my state house district to the Democrats; it was a GOP seat for 20 years, and GOP voters swamp Democrats. There were no Democrat office holders in this county before Tuesday. The Democrat won by a slim plurality, and the turnout was 25%.

I expect the GOP to get the wrong message from the results. They will see a tide running in favor of socialism and not see lack of enthusiasm for RINOs and failure to get out the vote. Our governor spends his time MIA, holding niggruh babies, and kissing teacher ass.

Neh. Ever since their last big success in 2010 their answer to a constant string of popularity setbacks have been a straight diet of "We're not conservative enough. If only we were more hard right, America would love us!"

They haven't read the message you're talking about so far. What makes you think that would change all of a sudden?

 

[kbate]

Yep, the MSM are trying hard to get their one party system.

Let's face it. It's only 4:30 AM where you live and you're out of bed and at the computer to bitch and cry about a republican cave-in, and to call your darlings treasonous and such and to call the president a dictator and a Lame duck (both on the same page interestingly enough).

I'm not the one with a problem.

 

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[kbate]

Actually I get up at 3:30 every morning thinking up ways to put your panties in a twist with my jovial insights. I do this while drinking a fine cup of coffee and watching the Bloomberg overseas market reports.

Sure you do.

You exist in my world only for the few moments I'm posting and laughing at your idiocy. Then you cease to exist (just like your phantom wealth).

 

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[BotanyBoy]

Actually I get up at 3:30 every morning thinking up ways to put your panties in a twist with my jovial insights. I do this while drinking a fine cup of coffee and watching the Bloomberg overseas market reports.

Hit's Luby's for dinner at 2PM

 

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[BotanyBoy]

Never heard of it here in the American enclave of Northern Mexico.

It's a southern thing....cafeteria food joint that caters to the geriatrics lunch at 8am and dinner at 2pm.

Maybe Anthony's, The Brigantine, or Phil's Barbecue.

I have been to the Brigantine, yum, there is also a few good sushi and another seafood joint on Coronado that I really enjoyed but I forgot the names, I could drive right to them though.

I kinda miss S. Cal....but then I would be a daygo broski...and that's just not keeping it real. IDK how the fuck you put up with that shit.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

You have a perception problem.

Oh and on lines 9-10 page section 146 there's even a $174,000 for the widow of Frank Lautenberg...Now there's a real national priority! Hey, 15 plus million Americans out of a job but let's send some money to a crony's wife.

SEC. 123. Section 3(a)(6) of Public Law 100–676 is
amended by striking both occurrences of ‘‘$775,000,000’’
and inserting in lieu thereof, ‘‘$2,918,000,000’’.

The above is for a dam project in Kentucky.

That dam has long been a pet project of Mitch McConnell.. So...

Although the language was inserted by Feinstein and Alexander, whose home state of Tennessee would also benefit from the project, McConnell has been its historical champion. In fact, the Kentucky lawmaker secured hundreds of millions of dollars in earmarks for the Olmsted project before lawmakers ended the practice several years ago.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Did you notice that McConnell was bought and paid for in the Senate bill?

And the rich widow Lautenberg...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You haven't been reading your own posts, have you? Dictator, bought and paid, et al.

He should rise above terrorists, arsonists, and hostage takers?


Turn the other check for another smack down from the people that never tire of lecturing us on civility?

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

And the rich widow Lautenberg...

It's a death benefit and was put into the appropriation bill as stipulated in the Senate handbook.

The Senate Handbook indicates that “in the next Appropriation Bill, an item will be inserted for a gratuity to be paid to the widow(er) or other next-of-kin, in the amount of one year’s compensation.”

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

(CNN) -- Damn those extreme Republicans. President Obama and White House press secretary Jay Carney have found Republicans guilty of extortion and blackmail. Joe Biden, per a report in Politico, once christened Republicans as terrorists.

Liberals have led a media assault, calling the GOP anarchists, jihadists, "gun to head" hostage takers, and the political equivalent of the Taliban. White House advisor Dan Pfeiffer has likened Republicans to suicide bombers "with a bomb strapped to their chest."

What could be more extreme?

The Democratic Party.

True, the Ted Cruz wing in the House of Representatives is relentless, uncompromising and unmoved by practicality. As we all know, there are perhaps 40 or so "bullet-proof Republicans" in the House, in safe GOP districts, invulnerable except to Kryptonite. They fear a fellow Republican getting to their right in a primary more than a long-shot Democratic opponent who would paint their district blue in a general election.
No doubt, the GOP is a party divided, but there are a lot of Democrats in safe districts, too. Why don't they fear a fellow Democrat getting to their left in a primary? Why aren't the Democrats a party divided between a centrist mainstream and a more extreme, radicalized left?

Let us count the reasons: Barack Obama has taken the Democratic Party left of Clinton. He left blue-dog, centrist Democrats to be punished for his sins and they were wiped out in the GOP's 2010 Congressional landslide. All the while, the Internet has empowered and organized the party's remaining and most extreme elements. The Democratic Party can't go left. It is left, in entirety. They already occupy America's left fringe.

Bill Clinton's New Democrats are dead. This is not Hillary Clinton's Democratic Party. Today's Democratic Party belongs to Elizabeth Warren. It is the party that just nominated a Sandinista trainee who returned from Nicaragua with "a vision of unfettered leftist government" for mayor of New York City, according to the New York Times.
And today's Democrats think this is a good thing.

They dream audaciously, as Ruy Teixeira wrote in the Atlantic, of a new "Emerging Democratic Majority." As Peter Beinart noted in a Daily Beast piece, "The Rise of the New New Left," "Bill de Blasio's win in New York's Democratic primary isn't a local story. It's part of a vast shift that could upend three decades of American political thinking."

The Democratic Party is now animated by the "mobilized left," Beinart writes, emboldened by Internet activism. Their cause was galvanized by President Obama's seemingly impossible re-election.

Once, Obama may have campaigned as a centrist, but that was long ago. He has since governed as an old school economic liberal from the '60s. As Fred Thompson has noted, Barack Obama has been "George McGovern without the experience." Obama's answer to every economic challenge has been top-down. Our governing class knows best, he believes, especially since Washington's elite now includes him.

If the world has changed in eight decades, our President hasn't noticed. His view of government is cast from the bronze of Franklin Roosevelt and the '30s. He puts our big, dumb, inflexible public sector at the top of American life, to mandate redistribution and prosperity.

At every opportunity, he has grown the public sector's archaic program-and-policy factory. This empty presidency tries only to cure too much old government with even more of it. Though little of what he has tried has worked, it has not seemed to deter his party. It hasn't deterred him.

His government doesn't govern education: The U.S. educational system barely edges out nations such as Slovakia, in international rankings. His government doesn't govern retirement: Our public-sector retirement system is akin to an unsustainable Ponzi scheme. His government doesn't govern health care: The Affordable Care Act is making health care more unaffordable for many seniors. His old government doesn't govern our economy: A record high 89 million Americans don't participate in the workforce and 300,000 more dropped out this August. Barack Obama is building the largest public sector since World War II and, yet, our government governs nothing.

Still, an intellectually exhausted Democratic Party proposes nothing new. If at first you don't succeed, keep trying until you are $20 trillion in debt and failure litters your streets.

The rollout of the Obamacare website is but another symptom of an old, hierarchical bureaucracy incapable of keeping pace with the complexities of a modern, adaptive America. Healthcare.gov is the best old Washington can do, not the worst.

While our world transforms itself through revolutions in energy, technology and communication, the ideologists of the left stagnate. Barack Obama's Democratic Party is intellectually exhausted. Their old Democratic Party has nothing up its sleeves but more of the same.

How our young President could only offer such dated ideas will be studied for decades. For now, we can mark candidate Obama's transformation from agent of hope and change to defender of liberal calcification as one of the great sleight-of-hand tricks in political history.

With any luck, he will be the last President who tried to teach our dinosauric public sector to dance to the music of a new and adaptive era. Others, beyond Obama, will not expand but instead transform what we now pretend "governs" us. As for his legacy, today's tweeters and texters will remember Barack Obama as the last President of the Industrial Age and once he is gone, there will be no cover for his party's intellectual barrenness.

Obama will leave a Democratic Party epitomized by ancient ideas, radically positioned left of our political center. The political trouble Barack Obama inherited from George W. Bush is nothing compared to what Obama has teed up for a future contender such as Hillary Clinton.

Our former secretary of state has had no choice but to campaign for president earlier than she would have chosen. Clinton can see that this radicalized Democratic Party could easily leave her behind and find another champion. It did so before, to her distress, in 2008.

No other member of the old Democratic elite can possibly hold its left-sliding legions together, yet Hillary Clinton has only one credential that appeals to her party: She could be our first female president. Elizabeth Warren's growing followers, more in tune with today's radicalized, populist Democrats, are likely to find that distinction unimpressive. If Clinton's rationale begins to fray, all hands on deck: The Democratic Party's 2016 nomination process is going to look like the casting call for "One-Flew-Over-The Cuckoo's Nest."

Howard Dean may have screamed his way past the Democratic nomination in 2004, but the revolution he started has borne fruit. The 2016 nomination battle may be a fight between Elizabeth Warren, Governors Martin O'Malley and Deval Patrick, an unpolished pack of ideological duds and even a reinvigorated Dean, all vying to out-crazy each other and take the Democratic Party over a precipice. They'll make the troupe that sought the 2012 GOP nomination look like the committee awarding the Nobel Prize for Physics.

Which party is more extreme?

A Republican Party divided between 180 mainstream House members and 40 Ted Cruz mini-me's? Or a Democratic Party united to preserve our fossilized, ineffective public sector?

A Republican Party advocating a path to fresh, natural, economic growth? Or a Democratic Party offering young voters the outdated economics of conformity, artificially imposed by Washington's elites?

A Republican Party being driven to offer change? Or a Democratic Party united against it?

Entrepreneurs, start printing tie-died shirts now. They will be hot sellers at the next Democratic Convention. Both sides are in for an interesting ride, but for Democrats, it's going to be an extreme 2016.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/15/opinion/castellanos-extreme-party/index.html

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Amazing eh? According to the President we're on the brink of economic disaster, millions upon millions of private sector workers either out of work, or on part time jobs, and the big concern is a dam project for McConnell and a monetary award for Lautenberg's rich widow, all part of starting up the government.

Nancy cannot find a dime to cut...

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Amazing eh? According to the President we're on the brink of economic disaster, millions upon millions of private sector workers either out of work, or on part time jobs, and the big concern is a dam project for McConnell and a monetary award for Lautenberg's rich widow, all part of starting up the government.

You should get on the horn to McConnell and ask why his pet project became part of the negotiations.

As for Lautenburg's widow, that's a death benefit normally attached to the next appropriation bill after the seated Senator dies according to the Senate Handbook.

You sound like a child, whining about this when the shutdown you salivated over cost almost $30 billion and .6% growth.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'd love to see kbate in panties.

So would her wife.


Boxers are so unsexy on a chick...