Harry Reid and Barack Obama want a government shutdown.

[mercury14]

A coup is about to be accomplished by Barack Obama, the power of the purse is about to be stolen from the House of Representatives with his threat of default. By doing so he along with the help of John McCain and the "women of the Senate" will have gutted the Constitution.

A coup has been right around the corner since 2009, hasn't it Vette? Quick though, there's still time! Call Duncan Hunter and tell him to not raise the debt ceiling!

 

[RjThoughts]

A coup is about to be accomplished by Barack Obama, the power of the purse is about to be stolen from the House of Representatives with his threat of default. By doing so he along with the help of John McCain and the "women of the Senate" will have gutted the Constitution.

That has to be one of the stupidest comments you've EVER made! A coup? When the fucking TeaOP House members are acting like fucking children, holding the US government hostage because they don't like a piece of legislation, THAT is an attempted coup!

Lay off the drugs and alcohol, then maybe you'll realize that the House GOP are the ones terrorizing this nation!!

 

[RobDownSouth]

A coup is about to be accomplished by Barack Obama, the power of the purse is about to be stolen from the House of Representatives with his threat of default. By doing so he along with the help of John McCain and the "women of the Senate" will have gutted the Constitution.

Fuck you, coward.

It's called "Majority Rule".

You don't have the majority in the Senate.
You don't have the Presidency.
You have a small block of government-hating bigots such as yourself in the House who would rather see America fail then a Negar President succeed.

You and your kind have failed in your little tantrum here.

America kicked your ass. Deal with it, pussy.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

How's the "coup" going?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md3ukoOYpm1qa6g1m.gif

 

[phrodeau]

A coup is about to be accomplished by Barack Obama, the power of the purse is about to be stolen from the House of Representatives with his threat of default. By doing so he along with the help of John McCain and the "women of the Senate" will have gutted the Constitution.

The House clearly demonstrates a complete lack of responsibility for that purse power. In fact, it sounds like the House just handed over that power to the Senate.

 

[doctor_insanus]

Well well. Well well well.

A surprise to no one... except the most partisan hacks.

 

[unregistered]

 

[RobDownSouth]

LOL...."Lame Duck"? three years out?

President Obama and the Democrats curb stomped your mangy gutless Viet Cong worshipping ass.

Edited to add: Senor Cruz declares shutdown to be an quote Incredible Victory unquote.

LINK


Second edit: Teh Republican Rewrite of The Great Shutdown Has Already Begun!

Let's see how many of these talking points Miles uses tomorrow.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You just now figuring this out?

Obummer is a dictator. He's saying "Do it my way, or suffer."

And he means to do it again, exactly as it played out this time.

The only difference is that his grand accomplishment will continue to play out.

He will be even lamer duck with the passage of time and his intransigence will grate even more...

Yes, he won this skirmish, but the logistics are not there to maintain a scorched earth policy of no negotiations, no peace, no compromise.

In strategy, it is important to keep a near view of distanced things and a distanced view of near things.
Miyamoto Musashi

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That has to be one of the stupidest comments you've EVER made! A coup? When the fucking TeaOP House members are acting like fucking children, holding the US government hostage because they don't like a piece of legislation, THAT is an attempted coup!

Lay off the drugs and alcohol, then maybe you'll realize that the House GOP are the ones terrorizing this nation!!

Your hard-line and negativity about legitimate groups involved in the political process and the attempt to shut them up will radicalize them and give them greater determination and power. We can see this happening in Europe as Conservatives are oppressed and pushed aside by the Liberal Press causing unlikely forces to join together in an attempt to preserve their place in any legitimate society that preaches tolerance and diversity.

From Greece to France to the United States we see that your desire for a boogyman actually begins to create one...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...n-EU-will-collapse-like-the-Soviet-Union.html

This liberal tactic of treating our friends as enemies and our enemies as valuable negotiating partners is going to backfire in the long-run.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Candidate Obama once had a vision of a new national health-coverage system that would lower premiums. His dream coverage was not supposed to affect existing health plans. It was promised to make American businesses more competitive. New universal insurance would even decrease deficits.

Had President Obama followed his own guidelines, perhaps we would not be fighting over the Affordable Care Act — or the employer mandate would not have been postponed, or there would not have been an online bureaucratic maze.

Well aside from its botched online inauguration, Obamacare is already raising existing premiums and requiring new taxes. It is forecasted to spike the debt. The rules of existing health plans are changing. Businesses are discouraged from hiring permanent employees. Obama in 2008 might have agreed with all the present criticisms of his own, or any rival, universal-health-care plan.

For most of 2008, candidate Obama also called for a kinder and gentler Washington politics. In early 2011, Obama admirably reminded Americans to conduct themselves more civilly during political debate and disagreement: “Only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face up to our challenges as a nation.”

Unfortunately, during the present shutdown, the president in a single press conference called his Republican adversaries names of the sort that he earlier had warned the nation about. Through a series of metaphors, similes, and allusions, Obama reduced his opposition to little more than ransom takers, house burners, defaulters, global-economy crashers, nuclear-bomb users, extremists, threateners, extortionists, hostage takers, plant burners, and equipment breakers — who are apparently also untrustworthy and irresponsible.

Just as the obstructionist Obama was not an arsonist in 2006 and Joe Biden was not a hostage taker, Republicans who now likewise wish to follow their examples to control the spending of a government even deeper in debt, and additionally beset with a costly but unproven new entitlement, are not either.

Victor Davis Hanson, NRO

And...

He is not going to stop. All Interventionist Governments need a bad guy be they Progressive, Socialist or Communist to explain their failures.

"The more communal enterprise extends, the more attention is drawn to the bad business results of nationalized and municipalized undertakings. It is impossible to miss the cause of the difficulty: a child could see where something was lacking. So that it cannot be said that this problem has not been tackled. But the way in which it has been tackled has been deplorably inadequate. Its organic connection with the essential nature of socialist enterprise has been regarded as merely a question of better selection of persons. It has not been realized that even exceptionally gifted men of high character cannot solve the problems created by socialist control of industry."
Ludwig Heinrich Elder von Mises

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The PC world of the secular progressives still uses this tactic quite effectively when they try to refocus attention on an individual or organization that opposes their agenda. This was certainly the case last week, when at the Values Voter Summit in Washington D.C., I stated that Obamacare was the worst thing in our country since slavery.

The PC police immediately went to work with their mission of distraction by trying to tell everyone that I was equating Obamacare with slavery, which of course I was not, but it makes for a good headline.

This is certainly not the first time they have used this tactic to discredit and attempt to silence me. Unfortunately for them, it is not going to work, and they will say, Carson has such a big ego that he thinks he is important enough that we would waste our time focusing on him.

These kinds of tactics have been very successful in the past, but as I travel around the country, I am noticing that many of our citizens are no longer falling for this simplistic foolishness and are indeed focusing on the real issues.

Dr. Ben Carson

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...c-police-nice-try-but-no-cigar/#ixzz2hy2wMhj5
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[Ulaven_Demorte]

I see the RWCJ has issued its spin.

The facts though, contradict their attempts.

A small faction of the GOP hijacked the legislative process on the eve of the shutdown and declared Eric Cantor "Dictator of the House" in an attempt to get something that it hasn't the backing to do any other way than by holding the economy and the legislative process hostage. Their partners in the Senate thwarted any attempt at forming a bimerical committee to hammer out an agreement for 6 months.

This attempted coup by the TeaOP brought the wrath of "we the people" down on the heads of the GOP as a whole as seen in the precipitous drop in their approval since the shutdown began.

You, the NRO, and the MoonieTimes can try to spin this however they think they can to look like the victim, but the majority of America knows exactly who tried to stage a coup here. They know who resorted to economic terrorism. They know who the intransigent children are.

They should be happy that they haven't been charged with sedition for trying to crash the world economy in a fit of pique because they couldn't get their way.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Let’s pause for a moment to underscore the point. In early September, a “clean” CR—including sequester cuts—that funded the government into 2014 was considered a Republican victory by both the Republican House Majority Leader and Washington’s most prominent Democratic think tank. Now, just over a month later, the media is describing the exact same deal as Republican “surrender.”

Partly, that’s because of Ted Cruz. Starting last month, as we all know, the Texas Senator—in conjunction with his fellow Tea Partiers in the House—forced GOP leaders to abandon the very “clean” CR proposal they had once championed. The new Republican position became no funding for the government and no increase in the debt ceiling without the defunding (or at least delaying) of Obamacare.

Now that Republicans are backing off those demands, the press is saying they’ve caved. But that’s like saying that the neighborhood bully has caved because after demanding your shoes and bike, he’s once again willing to accept merely your lunch money.

Most of the press is missing this because most of the press is covering the current standoff more as politics than policy. If your basic question is “which party is winning?” then it’s easy to see the Republicans as losing, since they’re the ones suffering in the polls. But the partisan balance of power and the ideological balance of power are two completely different things. The Nixon years were terrible for the Democratic Party but quite good for progressive domestic policy. The Clinton years were, in important ways, the reverse. The promise of the Obama presidency was not merely that he’d bring Democrats back to power. It was that he’d usher in the first era of truly progressive public policy in decades. But the survival of Obamacare notwithstanding, Obama’s impending “victory” in the current standoff moves us further away from, not closer to, that goal.

It’s not just that Obama looks likely to accept the sequester cuts as the basis for future budget negotiations. It’s that while he’s been trying to reopen the government and prevent a debt default, his chances of passing any significant progressive legislation have receded. Despite overwhelming public support, gun control is dead. Comprehensive immigration reform, once considered the politically easy part of Obama’s second term agenda, looks unlikely. And the other items Obama trumpeted in this year’s state of the union address—climate change legislation, infrastructure investment, universal preschool, voting rights protections, a boost to the minimum wage—have been largely forgotten.

Peter Beinart
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/14/why-the-shutdown-is-a-republican-victory.html

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Handy Quacks...

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/XNgodUCfMu8/hqdefault.jpg

Lame Duck Joke

 

[unregistered]

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Did you notice that McConnell was bought and paid for in the Senate bill?

There yuh go, that's how ObamaCare came to be.

 

[kbate]

Did you notice that McConnell was bought and paid for in the Senate bill?

Republican House at midnight last night

 

[unregistered]

 

[kbate]

The hate...so thick...so early in the morning too.

You haven't been reading your own posts, have you? Dictator, bought and paid, et al.

 

[unregistered]

 

[miles]

The hate...so thick...so early in the morning too.

Life must suck waking up like that every day.

 

[Ishmael]

It's rather interesting to watch the media and some pundits loudly proclaim the end of the republican party. If I've learned nothing else about politics is that today's winner can be tomorrow's loser and that turn of opinion at the polls can occur for reasons that the press and the parties don't recognize until after the election is over.

That is not to say that the republican party doesn't have a problem, and that problem is their seeming propensity to eat their own. Particularly when it comes to up and coming potential leaders like Cruz. They haven't seemed to have grasped the notion that charisma is as important as any other leadership trait when it comes to sparking the interest of the electorate. So instead of leaders with charisma they have treated the public to a chain of bland, backroom deal makers, like Dole, McCain, Romney, and to a large extent even the two Bush's. And while Cruz may not be the leader that the public wants in the long run, the party has risked a great deal by attacking him for taking a stand on principle. The reason the risk is so great is that while they are attacking Cruz primarily for purposes of strategy they come across as having no principles of their own, especially in the absence of explicitly voicing principle. The public at large isn't interested in strategy, it's boring, like trying to maintain public interest in a chess game taking place via snail mail. Only the two opponents, and those spectators that have placed large wagers on the outcome, will pay much attention past the opening move.

Ishmael

 

[kbate]

Are you saying there wasn't a few billion in there for McConnell?

did I say that?

I did say your posts are filled with hate. Mine was a linked bing search to a bunch of crybabies - which to any non-republican and to any republican who isn't busy crying about dictators, socialists, and bought off - would be humour.

You seem to think every post has deep meaning. It doesn't.

 

[Liar]

Are you saying there wasn't a few billion in there for McConnell?

Well, not personally. But dude's feeling the primary heat.

The pork bit was weird. There were apparently other random giveaways too that didn't benefit GOP senators, only DEMs who would want the resolution passed anyway.

Seems like a hella risky thing to do when sending it to an unpredictable House.