Exploring with women

[plesmone]

Re: women exploring women

i think another woman knows whats nicer ,i think there more gentle , softer smoother ,i know what i like what turns me on ,si i figure i have a headstart to guys.
don't get me wrong sometimes i like it rough ,just not all the time.

don't forget the smells - a woman has such a wonderful aroma
nice to blend your own with her's.
What about toys? What kind do you like - what's your favorite?

 

[OzMelbGuy]

This room needs a males touch i think, hehe

Gday girls!

I was just saying hello to all you girls out there. If any lady is interested in a 22male from melbourne, please pm if you want to chat.

Man in waiting xxx

 

[plesmone]

Re: This room needs a males touch i think, hehe

Gday girls!

I was just saying hello to all you girls out there. If any lady is interested in a 22male from melbourne, please pm if you want to chat.

Man in waiting xxx

Most any girl would welcome a man 'down under'

What kind of male touch would you like to bring to the thread?
Ples...

 

[OzMelbGuy]

Re: male touch

Well Ples I love women. I think they are beautiful. I think I can add some kind of a funny witty dimension to this thread. At the moment i just came from work, its 6am in the morning and ive lost the laughing gas so youre going to have to wait for the lol's. Well other than that I really dont know what else to say at the moment. Pose some questions to me if you want to know some specific stuff about us if youd like!

Ozzie guy

 

[plesmone]

Re: Re: male touch

Well Ples I love women. I think they are beautiful. I think I can add some kind of a funny witty dimension to this thread. At the moment i just came from work, its 6am in the morning and ive lost the laughing gas so youre going to have to wait for the lol's. Well other than that I really dont know what else to say at the moment. Pose some questions to me if you want to know some specific stuff about us if youd like!

Ozzie guy

Get some sleep Ozzie guy - we'll work you real hard when later on

 

[Spenser41]

I you would permit me to share my thoughts I would like to.
I can see why women want to be with woman. A lot of men, not all, but some, tend to treat women as their own personal sperm bank. This leaves women feeling used and abused.
A REAL MAN.... and there are a few out there, is more focused on pleasing her and not on getting off. He will spend the time romancing her, being gentle with soft kisses and lots of hugs. And when it comes to the bed room, he will take the time to make sure she is taken care of first before he is. That means bring her to climax a few times with much foreplay and oral attention. Gentle, like kissing and licking a flower petel. If a person is going to be a REAL LOVER, her needs come first. After you have seen that she is well taken care of and has be pleased in all ways, she will be more willing and wanting to take care of you. And I will say that many men after sex, do not just roll over and go to sleep. Many, like me, love to snuggle or spoon or talk about what just happened, with lots of kisses and nibbles.
But that is from my point of view. If more men did this, I think personally, more women would not complain about men. We would be doing what we should have been all long, taking care of the needs of our ladies.

 

[jazey_43]

wonders...

Spenser.....can you expound a bit and tell us ladies just WHERE to find a man like that? They seem hard to come by...but your knowledge of the "softness' that woman(I'll speak for myself) need, is indeed refreshing, although hard to come by. I wish men would wear a sign...shouting to us women that they are indeed sensitive, and soft, and caring...even behind all the hard exteriors...

Thanks for a great post!! It has made my day to know theres still some of you out there....

 

[plesmone]

Nicely put - it would make a difference if we didn't feel like the guy is using us as a sperm bank

The guys I know that are great lovers generally are romantics. They hold the woman and the relationship as having value. They also know that if a woman is satisfied, she will bring excitement to lovemaking.

I don’t know, is the ultimate end in making love ejaculation?

 

[OzMelbGuy]

Hmm Spencer!

I personally think that both partners equally should be treated as gold. As soon as one person is getting fulfilled more I think its no good. You basically are leaving yourself open to get hurt. I personally know how you can get screwed the best from females and its by giving them everything. I believe if everyones pleasured it all can be good.
Spencer I think youre being a bit too hard on men. We arent all like that. Some women I can tell you, are pretty fucked up themselves as well. I really do think there are good guys and girls out there, I think its just timing and luckiness on how good your partner could be. I respect you showing your opinion however.

ozmelbguy

 

[sensualpilgrim]

Nicely put - it would make a difference if we didn't feel like the guy is using us as a sperm bank

The guys I know that are great lovers generally are romantics. They hold the woman and the relationship as having value. They also know that if a woman is satisfied, she will bring excitement to lovemaking.

I don’t know, is the ultimate end in making love ejaculation?

Personally, I think good love is when the relationship is a game, a drama in which everybody are polished actors who add excitment, unpredictability, passion, and art to relationship and to sex. Animal lust have a place for it but varsity is more important. Romance is a theater for naked souls that create new colors in our lives.

 

[plesmone]

Personally, I think good love is when the relationship is a game, a drama in which everybody are polished actors who add excitment, unpredictability, passion, and art to relationship and to sex. Animal lust have a place for it but varsity is more important. Romance is a theater for naked souls that create new colors in our lives.

It takes a speical kind of person to keep the game going. There aren't a lot like you....

Why aren't you working? Don't you have projects to finish

 

[Spenser41]

All I can say is what I have heard from women and that is how men make them feel. I agree, not all men are like that,but to hear alot of women, they tend to think that if they have a cock, they are a prick. It is sad to hear that woman are abused like they are. I am just saying, going along with why women go to women, I think sometimes not all the time, is the tenderness they show and the care after the love making. Yes there are men out there like me, but to be really honest.... a lot of women tend to go the men that treat them like crap, which is why they get so frustrated with men. This is something we could talk on and on about, and there is no one right viewpoint. This is the women's thread of why they go to women, but I was just saying I feel that if more men were more romantic and more tender and more into taking care of their partner and not so much just wanting to get off, that more women would be pleased. And from some of the comments, some of the ladies agree. There is no absoulete. The reason why, is that you have to look past the gender and look at the heart.
Ok I will not hold up the ladies thread anymore and let you all get back to what you were talking about.
Take care
Spenser

 

[sensualpilgrim]

It takes a speical kind of person to keep the game going. There aren't a lot like you....

Why aren't you working? Don't you have projects to finish

I AM working on a project. To attract a certain blond and shy beauty who I think is comparable to the greatest muses and what i am going to do is to make her peel out of her velet shield like a flower blooming. It should be an interesting drama.

 

[TheOlderGuy]

now THAT'S what i'm talking about

sure I will spill the beans....

My first time with a women was a couple of years ago. She and I have been best friends since our freshman year of high school. She and I both got married but her marraige ended in divorce. She and I started spending ALOT of time together. I thought I was being helpful. Trying to help her through a rough time. Anyway, we began talikng about our attraction to women. The talk started to get more and more naughty as the time went on. Well I had always known that I was attracted to women. SO, I began purposely trying to seduce her. Just a little at a time. Well one night she and I had been out to a movie and we went back to her apartment afterwards for a little smoke. We were under the influence and getting very hot. So naturally the talk went straight to sex with other women. She decided to put in a porno and we watched for a few minutes. I was dripping wet. So I decided to up the ante as they say and I started to rub pussy through my jeans. I was really working my self up. I started to moan and that was all it took. She slipped her hand in her pants and the next thing I knew we were both frigging ourselves. We masterbated right there in front of each other and I will tell you that was one of the hottest memories. After a couple more times masterbating with each other we gradually began helping one another and then on to full on sex.

Well. I am getting my self all worked up now. I think I need to give my friend a call.

Lisa

 

[jazey_43]

mmmm

...have wanted to speak up on this subject more than once...I guess I've been afraid to. I love men...all men...being filled with the almighty penis is grand!! But theres something rather peaceful, and somewhat relaxing in the thoughts of being made love to by a woman.
it's no secret that woman are indeed more outwardly compassionate than some men. As women, we have turned to our best friends..(female).. for comfort and strength, for centuries. There must be a reason for that Does that say that women are more comfortable with women?...the whole thing confuses me sometimes. I have been destroyed in the past, by a man...and I often wonder if a woman would treat another woman in such a cold, calculating manner....
Cause in all honesty, if they wouldn't, then I'm on the prowl for a woman to teach me all she can....

 

[snneze]

I believe...

Neither a male or a female has cornered the market on cruelty and cold heartedness. Females are just as capable at hurting someone. In fact we are probally better at dishing it out. We are a sneaky and caniving bunch. I am happily married and would never give up the strength and security I feel when I am in my husbands arms. He is a sensitive and gentle lover who does put my needs first. But sex with a woman is just a totally different animal. It is not better or worse, in my opinion, than sex with a man. It just fulfills different needs. I am selfish, I guess, and want the best of both worlds. I like sex with both very much.

Lisa

 

[plesmone]

It should be an interesting drama.

More interesting than you think - I get to write some of the dialog

 

[OzMelbGuy]

Good luck to all women!

I hope you find your right lovers out there, even though i might not actually agree with some of the motives set out there. I just wanted to be heard, and heard i was. Thanks for being nice.

Might see you in another thread

Bernie

 

[plesmone]

Re: I believe...

Neither a male or a female has cornered the market on cruelty and cold heartedness. Females are just as capable at hurting someone. In fact we are probally better at dishing it out. We are a sneaky and caniving bunch. I am happily married and would never give up the strength and security I feel when I am in my husbands arms. He is a sensitive and gentle lover who does put my needs first. But sex with a woman is just a totally different animal. It is not better or worse, in my opinion, than sex with a man. It just fulfills different needs. I am selfish, I guess, and want the best of both worlds. I like sex with both very much.

Lisa

I'm probably sneeky and caniving 50% of the time - lol - but it's strange, I don't feel that way making love with aother woman. There's no presure about not getting my turn or such. You're right that it does not take the place of being with a man, it's just different.
What's nice for me, is that I run in a circle where straight, bi, and gay is expected behavior. So being straight or bi has the relationship problems, but not the other baggage that might come with the lifestyle.

 

[dizzylia]

Re: unpack the computer keyboard

come on love, where is the story. stop making new adventures and write about your cumming of age.

*thuds* I'm so sorry. Life has been unbelievably busy. And I'm still in the frozen wasteland of Minnesota, though we finally have snow. (MA stole it all, I swear)

I'll try to write tonight. I promise! As for any stories... I can try.

 

[dizzylia]

Re: I believe...

Neither a male or a female has cornered the market on cruelty and cold heartedness. Females are just as capable at hurting someone. In fact we are probally better at dishing it out. We are a sneaky and caniving bunch. I am happily married and would never give up the strength and security I feel when I am in my husbands arms. He is a sensitive and gentle lover who does put my needs first. But sex with a woman is just a totally different animal. It is not better or worse, in my opinion, than sex with a man. It just fulfills different needs. I am selfish, I guess, and want the best of both worlds. I like sex with both very much.

I can only agree here. In my experience, men have been cruel more often by inexperience and inattention than by anything purposeful. Women, on the other hand, seem to have a tendency to be caniving, as you say, and rather two-faced, smiling to your face while grinding their teeth. But alas, what can we do but go on?

As for the other topic, I would also agree that sex with one or the other isn't necessarily better, simply different. And sometimes one or the other difference is the preferred one.

 

[Mysticcal]

Hi all.....I am jumping in here and admit I didn't read from the beginning yet, but want to add my 2cents anyway

I have recently decided I want to act on my feelings for women...I have had a couple experiences when I was much younger, but then have been with men exclusively, and had myself convinced that I was just curious again about being with a woman until I read this page.

I am feeling myself drawn to the softness and compassion that I feel more from my female friends....and most of my recent fantasies have been along these lines, soft, romantic, loving. But as I was reading, I also realized that I have felt betrayed and used and hurt by men in the past (nothing recent, but still hanging on there), and am somewhat afraid of reaching out for another relationship. Having a male lover is satisfying, and probably my preference, but the draw to something that seems safer and softer is almost irresistable.

Thanks for letting me get that straight in my head

Mysti

 

[jazey_43]

Nods

Mysti...that sounds like what I was TRYING to say!! It just wasn't coming out right. I too have been betrayed...badly...and although I prefer men, the safe softness of a woman has made me do some serious thinking!!!

Thanks for finding my words...*hugs*

 

[dizzylia]

The Details...

I'm afraid I've let this sit far too long; the details are already growing hazy for me. I fear that part of it might be reluctance. Which... would take even more explanation, I suppose, but I'll try to write what I remember.

To be honest, what I remember first is fear. I was so afraid of doing anything, even though she was quite obviously all for it. I think I was afraid I wouldn't be able to step back once I took that first step forward. Which in a way is right, I suppose. You can't erase experiences.

Even with the fear, however, there was intense anticipation. I've lived with this curiosity for so long, the idea that I might actually be able to test that curiosity was almost too much to bear. It's also been so long since I was intimate with anyone in any way, including a simple hug. It felt so good to be in someone's arms, to hold her in mine. It was more comforting than sensual, though. But that probably has more to do with how I think of this woman. I don't want to make it sound like I used her, but I know it's come across that way sometimes. I feel she is a friend more than a lover. I know not all people are able to understand that. I know my husband, soon to be ex- I hope) never did.

But I'm rambling. I'm sorry, it's late... So, here I was feeling both relaxed and on edge all at the same time. I knew what she wanted, I knew what I both wanted and feared... but finally, I gave in. It was like finally reaching that part in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade where he either has to step out into midair or turn around and go home. Though... not with so dire consequences.

It began with very simple touches. I was leaning up against her shoulder as she lounged back on the sofa, her arm wrapped around me. She began toying with my hair lightly, brushing it away from my face, her fingertips trailing across my temple, down my cheek, across my neck... we retreated to the spare room where I was staying and simply sat down. It was easier to talk about these things in the dark. Unfortunately, it also made things difficult to see. At one point, I moved to give her a hug but misjudged the distance, my hand brushing rather roughly across her breast rather than in front of her.

Clumsy to say the least, but that accidental contact was all I needed, as if that boundary of personal space had been broken for me. While with my previous lovers (few though they've been) I always preferred to leave the lights on, I must admit that this experience in the dark was exhilarating. It was about touches, tastes and scents that can all too easily be dulled when the lights are on. And it was amazing. Again, I think half the pleasure was simply having someone /there/, pathetic as that might sound. To be wanted, to want, to fulfill those desires...

I couldn't touch her enough. The silky softness that seems unique only to women was absolutely fascinating. The curves of her body that were different from my own and yet so similar, and her lips... Kissing a woman is so unlike kissing a man. I'm not even sure how to begin describing it. (It doesn't help that it's been a while.)

Soft. Yielding. Passionate and yet not crushing. Devouring and yet not consuming. A kiss is such an intimate gesture, and to be able to kiss this woman over and over again almost anywhere I wanted was intoxicating. I think I got at least as much enjoyment out of that, if not more, as out of the more... intimate gestures.

And as for those, I'm not really sure what to say here. It felt wonderful, no doubt, but the all-important "climax" wasn't really what I was after. It just felt so good to know for sure that my assumptions about myself all these years have been true. I'm not just some mixed up kid. My feelings are real.

Now, however, that I've answered that whole "What is my sexuality?" question, I have to deal with the answer. Or answers. That might prove to be vastly more difficult.

 

[plesmone]

Re: The Details...

And as for those, I'm not really sure what to say here. It felt wonderful, no doubt, but the all-important "climax" wasn't really what I was after. It just felt so good to know for sure that my assumptions about myself all these years have been true. I'm not just some mixed up kid. My feelings are real.

Now, however, that I've answered that whole "What is my sexuality?" question, I have to deal with the answer. Or answers. That might prove to be vastly more difficult.

First - I love your av

Dealing with the answer may not be as difficult as you think. You are back in control, friend. You know what you like and what pleases you. Position yourself accordingly. You are not less than before, you are more. You have the ability to decide on what kind of love you want and when you want it. Both men and women can offer a great deal - you have the choice.

A man
holding your breasts firmly with his big rough hands as he enters your cunt from behind. The penetration so deep - his shaft running across your clit with each thrust.
A woman
her touch soft and skillful. Knowinf where to touch you and how much pressure to bring to pleasure you. The kiss is so different - soft enough that you are never sure if it should end. The smells and taste - like yourself, but not.

What differences do you see?
Ples...