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My spooge or not don't matter to me. I don't believe DNA has magic powers. Parenthood is not about a string of alleles.
Does a man, have say so when it comes to abortion?
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thelovingsadist
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You aren't the bad guy because you agreed, you are the bad guy because you spoke up at all.
And because you posted too much in the thread, apparently.
RobDownSouth
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You are making up arguments to what you think I am saying or that you want me to be saying for the sake of proving your loyalty to the case.
It is admirable in one way and nauseating in another...
You just hammer home her point.
STFU!!!
Chief, all you've been doing is whining about appeals to emotion.
I pointed out the fact that the Supreme Court has rendered a legal decision stating that the impregnatin' man has no legal standing whatsoever in a woman's decision to carry a fetus to term.
Is that an appeal to emotion too? I can never tell, given your history of non-standard word definitions (see also: "too many" = "none")
cjh
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You are making up arguments to what you think I am saying or that you want me to be saying for the sake of proving your loyalty to the case.
It is admirable in one way and nauseating in another...
You just hammer home her point.
STFU!!!
The only point I'm hammering is the one the sadist dude could not make.
4est_4est_Gump
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You aren't the bad guy because you agreed, you are the bad guy because you spoke up at all.
And because you posted too much in the thread, apparently.
You got that right.
I knew better, but the Nyquil is doing all my talking for me...
4est_4est_Gump
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Disgustipated
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If 4est has been trying to make his point since post #2, he really sucks at communication.
4est_4est_Gump
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Yeah.
If you were to limit yourself to not attacking everyone else, you would have nothing to say on any topic.
If you were to limit yourself to not attacking everyone else, you would have nothing to say on any topic.
sereneone4u
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Yes, he should.
So then you would agree that if the man clearly states that he wants you to have an abortion and you say no, then he is off the hook for child support?
4est_4est_Gump
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Not a chance.
He should have kept it in his pants or turned gay.
She is the only person in this passion play who has a say.
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A_J, the Stupid
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What about the woman that gets preggo on purpose as to trap the man and told him she was on birth control?
What about the mentally ill woman the gets pregnant in a non-rape scenario and cannot care for the child on her own? Who makes her decision?
thelovingsadist
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I think I saw this on Judge Judy or something once. I think the woman won.
Then her mother decides, obviously.
4est_4est_Gump
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What if pigs had wings and elephants drove Porsches?
Special circumstances still do not give any man the "right" to talk about ANY woman's womb or the decisions to be made about pregnancy unless it is just to agree.
It is not an issue of reason or debate.
It is pure emotion.
Emotion wins.
PERIOD!
It is not an age of reason. It is an age of moral relativism...
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Like my pap-pap used to say, "Johnny, if it gots tits or tires it's gonna be nuttin but trouble"
4est_4est_Gump
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I think I saw this on Judge Judy or something once. I think the woman won.
Then her mother decides, obviously.
You fell into his "trap."
You have no right to discuss the issue if you have a dick. You will never have a baby. Only baby-makers can talk about baby-making UNLESS you are just a yes ma'am...
This Drunken Hulk stuff really makes you feel warm and fuzzy!
4est_4est_Gump
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cjh
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You're making the argument, again, that you swear you are not making.
And the fallacy behind it remains the same.
Both parents legally owe support to a child. It is the child's right. Not the mother's, not the father's.
And as the law stands now, a non-viable fetus has few, if any, legal rights. As the law stands now, it is not a person.
thelovingsadist
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They may have the oven, but as long as I have the secret ingredient I most certainly have every right to discuss whether or not we're gonna bake a cake, and I most certainly have a right to discuss how we're gonna eat it!
Yes, I went there. Got anything stronger then nyquil?
warrior queen
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I have a few friends who were in just this situation.
Their boyfriend convinced them he'd support the baby, but when push comes to shove, he disappears and she gets left with no support, financial or otherwise.
Happens a LOT.
So I figure, in this scenario, a woman has the right to ask for all the financial support upfront.
No legal undertaking or payment, no say.
Simple.
Bad_Doggie
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No it’s not; it’s a matter of “right.”
Whose property is the womb, the man's or the woman’s?
Who has the right to determine if/how that womb is used or not? (At least until the fetus is capable of independent life and is judged to be a human being then it too has “rights”)
QED Mr. Property rights.
Woof!
thelovingsadist
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If the owner has the right to decide, then that means I have the right to decide for my slaves. Because I own them.
Why didn't you say it that way sooner? Now it's all so simple.
cjh
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If the owner has the right to decide, then that means I have the right to decide for my slaves. Because I own them.
Why didn't you say it that way sooner? Now it's all so simple.
Are your arguments always this fallacious?
If you disagree with Roe, make your point. State that a fetus is a person and that it has rights independent of the mother.
Queen_Vicki
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You know there are some men that get women pregnant on purpose,because they get turned on by it?It's called birth control sabotage, you might need to look it up.
thelovingsadist
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Oh lighten up and learn how to take a joke.
I'm pro-choice, I just don't think it's too much to say that I deserve to offer my opinion on whats going to happen to my the growth that spawned from my seed. And it isn't, but for some fucked up reason women seem to think it is. Before a decision is made, there should be LOTS of counseling involved and the decision should be made TOGETHER. If the guy isn't around or doesn't want to participate to the raising of the child for whatever reason (rape, incest, whatever), then it's her choice and hers alone because he isn't there to offer an opinion anyway. After all, it's her body.
Really though, some of you people take things way too seriously. Have a cookie.
*lays out a plate of cookies*
