Does a man, have say so when it comes to abortion?

[Queen_Vicki]

Well does he? Anybody can answer this question btw.Me personally since I am pro-choice,I think men just need to sit down, and shut the hell up. That's probably one of the reasons why I should vote for Obama.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That's right.


It's your womb. End of conversation.


No woman should be allowed to tell another woman either.


Any abortion any time for any reason.


Of course men must support your baby if you do not abort it. After all, it's HIS baby too...

 

[bronzeage]

Well does he? Anybody can answer this question btw.Me personally since I am pro-choice,I think men just need to sit down, and shut the hell up. That's probably one of the reasons why I should vote for Obama.

Is he paying for it?

 

[chillywilly2]

Is he paying for it?

One way or the other

 

[Tryharder62]

You know it is the woman's body but I would hope that they could at least talk to each other. I know there are situations that are bad and that can't happen. I can't imagine what either one is going through but I do feel for both parties. It has to be hard if the man loves the woman and would want the child. It is just a sad situation all around. My thoughts go out to anyone who has ever been in that situation.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You know it is the woman's body but I would hope that they could at least talk to each other. I know there are situations that are bad and that can't happen. I can't imagine what either one is going through but I do feel for both parties. It has to be hard if the man loves the woman and would want the child. It is just a sad situation all around. My thoughts go out to anyone who has ever been in that situation.

I've been here well over a decade.


Once the "a man cannot tell me what to do with my womb" card is played, the conversation is over.

Dead in the water. Emotion becomes cognition.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

That's why I plan to go the turkey baster route. If I change my mind and it complains, I'll pull it's bulbous head off.

 

[Sean]

Yes. I think at least a conversation is in order.

 

[blobfish]

It's a question that I've wrestled with for a long time, without being able to reach a good answer. I suspect that is because there isn't one.

 

[Disgustipated]

Yes. I think at least a conversation is in order.

I need one of Zumi's THIS gifs.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That's why I plan to go the turkey baster route. If I change my mind and it complains, I'll pull it's bulbous head off.

lol

 

[RobDownSouth]

I've been here well over a decade.


Once the "a man cannot tell me what to do with my womb" card is played, the conversation is over.

Dead in the water. Emotion becomes cognition.

Stop whining. It's un-manly.

The simple fact of the matter is that the sperm donor has no say whatsoever in the babby maker's decision to carry her fetus to term.

None whatsoever.

This was decided in Planned Parenthood vs. Casey way back in 1992. You probably don't remember it because you were still gay back then, Chief.

....and I'd be remiss in not pointing out that Lit's premier Glibertarian, who campaigns tirelessly for "maximum freedoms" for himself, continues to whine that he and his type continually whine about their lack of ability to control the reproductive organs of womenfolk.

Of course, intellectual honesty was never a strong point in Glibertarian philosophy.

 

[killallhippies]

Yes. I think at least a conversation is in order.

yep. pretty much.

 

[thelovingsadist]

Why SHOULDN'T the man have a say in the matter? It took both of you to make the damn thing, it should take both of you to decide what to do with it.

A man shouldn't be able to force a woman to have an abortion, but if a guy wants the kid and is willing to take custody and responsibility (and is able to) then SHE shouldn't be able to make the decision alone either. All she has to do is pop it out, sign some papers and go live her life while someone else takes responsibility for it.

You bitches want equality? There it is. Equal Pro-Choice.

What's next on the agenda? Figuring out a way to get men pregnant.

 

[warrior queen]

I figure, if he wants to keep the child, he can come up with half the entire cost of raising that child, and pay it in cash before the end of the first trimester.
If he can't do that, then no - he doesn't get a say.

 

[Disgustipated]

Why SHOULDN'T the man have a say in the matter? It took both of you to make the damn thing, it should take both of you to decide what to do with it.

A man shouldn't be able to force a woman to have an abortion, but if a guy wants the kid and is willing to take custody and responsibility (and is able to) then SHE shouldn't be able to make the decision alone either. All she has to do is pop it out, sign some papers and go live her life while someone else takes responsibility for it.

You bitches want equality? There it is. Equal Pro-Choice.

What's next on the agenda? Figuring out a way to get men pregnant.

Shaddup, VBM.

 

[DaddyValin]

Of course men must support your baby if you do not abort it. After all, it's HIS baby too...

This! Really, you can't have it both ways, if a man has to pay child support for the above reason, then yes, he should have a say. So the law either needs to be one way or the other. If men legally have no say on whether women have abortions or not, then they should legally never have to pay child support.

 

[thelovingsadist]

Shaddup, VBM.

Make me.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Why SHOULDN'T the man have a say in the matter? It took both of you to make the damn thing, it should take both of you to decide what to do with it.

A man shouldn't be able to force a woman to have an abortion, but if a guy wants the kid and is willing to take custody and responsibility (and is able to) then SHE shouldn't be able to make the decision alone either. All she has to do is pop it out, sign some papers and go live her life while someone else takes responsibility for it.

You bitches want equality? There it is. Equal Pro-Choice.

What's next on the agenda? Figuring out a way to get men pregnant.

The Supreme Court rejected that conjecture. Take your indignant situational outrage up with them.

Derp.

 

[thelovingsadist]

The Supreme Court rejected that conjecture. Take your indignant situational outrage up with them.

Derp.

I have a lot of indignant situational outrage to take up with the supreme court, but this isn't one of them.

It's simple logic. I am pro-choice, but come on. As SeanH put it (perhaps more kindly), pregnancy at least deserves a conversation.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

This! Really, you can't have it both ways, if a man has to pay child support for the above reason, then yes, he should have a say. So the law either needs to be one way or the other. If men legally have no say on whether women have abortions or not, then they should legally never have to pay child support.

Just highlighting that rational discourse has been outlawed by the emotion of "my womb."

Once that phrase is uttered, the only thing a man can do is back away slowly; any further attempt at discussion then becomes the hateful misogyny of the 17th century when women and their wombs were chattel.

It is the triumph of the witch-doctor over mind.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I figure, if he wants to keep the child, he can come up with half the entire cost of raising that child, and pay it in cash before the end of the first trimester.
If he can't do that, then no - he doesn't get a say.

See? Sweet "reason..."


Woman as Atilla.

 

[bronzeage]

I figure, if he wants to keep the child, he can come up with half the entire cost of raising that child, and pay it in cash before the end of the first trimester.
If he can't do that, then no - he doesn't get a say.

Shouldn't he be willing to pay all of the expenses?

Sort of like buying a car with no money down and just taking up the notes?

 

[nayia]

And what about in cases of incest and rape, do men have a say then, also? What about for women who do not know who the father is? Do they wait until the fetus is big enough for a paternity test?

What if the man says he wants the baby but then disappears once it's born? Who will raise the child then?

All the man has to give is 2 tsp of juice. The woman has to give extra nutrients, let it grow in her body for almost a year, and then undergo a painful process to "pop it out."

In an ideal case where the unwanted pregnancy takes place within a good relationship, "a conversation is in order." But that's still the woman's call to decide whether the relationship is strong/safe enough to have that conversation.

 

[cjh]

This! Really, you can't have it both ways, if a man has to pay child support for the above reason, then yes, he should have a say. So the law either needs to be one way or the other. If men legally have no say on whether women have abortions or not, then they should legally never have to pay child support.

It's not both ways.

Child support is for the child, not the mother.

Keep your dick in your pants if you're not willing to pay its freight.