Does a man, have say so when it comes to abortion?

[cjh]

Oh lighten up and learn how to take a joke.

I'm pro-choice, I just don't think it's too much to say that I deserve to offer my opinion on whats going to happen to my the growth that spawned from my seed. And it isn't, but for some fucked up reason women seem to think it is. Before a decision is made, there should be LOTS of counseling involved and the decision should be made TOGETHER. If the guy isn't around or doesn't want to participate to the raising of the child for whatever reason (rape, incest, whatever), then it's her choice and hers alone because he isn't there to offer an opinion anyway. After all, it's her body.

Really though, some of you people take things way too seriously. Have a cookie.

*lays out a plate of cookies*

The PG's that way. -->

 

[thelovingsadist]

I know where it is, but I've sunk low enough by coming here.

Besides, it really isn't impossible to joke around and be serious too. Just look at serious things with a light heart. It's more relaxing that way.

 

[cjh]

I know where it is, but I've sunk low enough by coming here.

Besides, it really isn't impossible to joke around and be serious too. Just look at serious things with a light heart. It's more relaxing that way.

Most of the light hearts fled a few years ago.

I don't see them returning.

 

[thelovingsadist]

I didn't say I'm light hearted, I said I take serious things with a light heart.

Kinda difficult for a sadist to be a light heart, you know. I'm "loving" because I'm a romantic (a twisted one, sure--but a romantic none the less), not because I'm gentle.

 

[LadyVer]

Sure, if he had something to do with the pregnancy. But the final decision needs to be made, usually, by the woman.

 

[tactful]

Said subject, might be thought about and discussed, prior, to injecting ones throbbing cock, into hot cunt.

 

[thelovingsadist]

Said subject, might be thought about and discussed, prior, to injecting ones throbbing cock, into hot cunt.

Unless your on an early experimental version of that "birth control pill for men" they are developing in Israel, which is supposed to be 100% effective 100% of the time. Or fixed.

But getting fixed is expensive, most of the time.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

If the owner has the right to decide, then that means I have the right to decide for my slaves. Because I own them.

Why didn't you say it that way sooner? Now it's all so simple.

Self-evidently not simple enough……………………………for you.

You own slaves? I thought that was illegal in the western world?

Did I say that the woman is the owner of her womb or the baby?

If she isn’t the owner of her womb/her body then who is?

If you believe a sperm/an egg/a fetus is a human being then say that. However, I should point out the legal, medical and biological definition says it’s not.

The only emotion argument in all this comes from the people who for some odd emotional reason believe that a collection of cells is a human being.

Woof!

 

[thelovingsadist]

Self-evidently not simple enough……………………………for you.

You own slaves? I thought that was illegal in the western world?

Did I say that the woman is the owner of her womb or the baby?

If she isn’t the owner of her womb/her body then who is?

If you believe a sperm/an egg/a fetus is a human being then say that. However, I should point out the legal, medical and biological definition says it’s not.

The only emotion argument in all this comes from the people who for some odd emotional reason believe that a collection of cells is a human being.

Woof!

A collection of cells is not a human being. There, ya'll happy now?

HOWEVER, that collection of cells has the potential to BECOME a human being. Once the collection has started, then aside from any unfortunate incidents that will become a child in about nine months. The mans child, as much as the mothers. DNA isn't all hers, unless the science channel lies. So, why SHOULDN'T a man have a say in the matter when his POTENTIAL child is involved? Why doesn't he even get an opinion on the matter?

Also, you should google "Consensual Slavery." It's fun stuff.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

Oh lighten up and learn how to take a joke.

I'm pro-choice, I just don't think it's too much to say that I deserve to offer my opinion on whats going to happen to my the growth that spawned from my seed.

Sure you have a right to offer your opinion, but it is her right to decide what to do with her body.

If you have a problem with it take your seed/”growth” and put it under a hot lamp.

Woof!

 

[thelovingsadist]

Sure you have a right to offer your opinion, but it is her right to decide what to do with her body.

If you have a problem with it take you seed/”growth” and put it under a hot lamp.

Woof!

My seed is under something much worse then a hot lamp, and I have no intention of bringing it out unless I lose my mind and decide to use it. But I would only use it on someone willing to have a child together with me in the first place, so none of this argument really even applies to me. I just feel like being a bit of an ass today.

 

[jeninflorida]

Well does he? Anybody can answer this question btw.Me personally since I am pro-choice,I think men just need to sit down, and shut the hell up. That's probably one of the reasons why I should vote for Obama.

Yes, if a man wants to have an abortion he should have the right to say 'yes' or 'no' after all, its his body

 

[Bad_Doggie]

:

Also, you should google "Consensual Slavery." It's fun stuff.

I don't need to

Woof!

 

[thelovingsadist]

Yes, if a man wants to have an abortion he should have the right to say 'yes' or 'no' after all, its his body

As I said in my first post in this thread, the next thing on the agenda is to figure out how to get a man pregnant.

Then we'd all be happy. The women would be happy, and the men would be happy just because the women weren't bitching about it anymore.

 

[thelovingsadist]

And for the record, if you do figure out how to get a man pregnant, I would be happy to go through the any pregnancies for any children I may have in the future.

But then, I'm almost as big a masochist as I am a sadist, and I get off on doing weird stuff.

 

[warrior queen]

As I said in my first post in this thread, the next thing on the agenda is to figure out how to get a man pregnant.

Then we'd all be happy. The women would be happy, and the men would be happy just because the women weren't bitching about it anymore.

I reserve the right to bitch about deadbeat dads who won't pay their maintenence after they've had a say in keeping the child.
Loudly and often.

 

[thelovingsadist]

I reserve the right to bitch about deadbeat dads who won't pay their maintenence after they've had a say in keeping the child.
Loudly and often.

Hey, I bitch about those myself.

There's a little thing called "responsibility" that a lot of guys don't take seriously.

Though, if the man says no, and she has it anyway, then it IS wrong for her to mooch off him just because she can. There are more then a few women who trap men like that. I have a former friend from my childhood that's like that. She tried to trap me, and failed miserably.

 

[badbabysitter]

A collection of cells is not a human being. There, ya'll happy now?

HOWEVER, that collection of cells has the potential to BECOME a human being. Once the collection has started, then aside from any unfortunate incidents that will become a child in about nine months. The mans child, as much as the mothers. DNA isn't all hers, unless the science channel lies. So, why SHOULDN'T a man have a say in the matter when his POTENTIAL child is involved? Why doesn't he even get an opinion on the matter?

Also, you should google "Consensual Slavery." It's fun stuff.

because a man doesnt have to carry the child to term...the man doesnt have the health complications...the man can't pregant if hes' raped...the man can't die from childbirth...the man can't have a relative knock them up...the man can't be disowned for getting pregnant..the man also won't be abandoned with the child when he gets pregnant


we'll take your opinion under concern... but untill you can physically have one, you dont get to make the call

 

[thelovingsadist]

because a man doesnt have to carry the child to term...the man doesnt have the health complications...the man can't pregant if hes' raped...the man can't die from childbirth...the man can't have a relative knock them up...the man can't be disowned for getting pregnant..the man also won't be abandoned with the child when he gets pregnant


we'll take your opinion under concern... but untill you can physically have one, you dont get to make the call

Again, this is not equality.

I did not say the man should make the call. I said the man should have his opinion in the matter. I said that the woman should not have be able to make the call alone, either, in a healthy relationship where shit just happens. Sure, there's rape and incest and all that. But in a relationship where it just happens, the guy still has no say in the matter. And that isn't "equal rights for women." It's "superior rights for women." It's reverse sexism and it's wrong.

 

[badbabysitter]

Again, this is not equality.

I did not say the man should make the call. I said the man should have his opinion in the matter. I said that the woman should not have be able to make the call alone, either, in a healthy relationship where shit just happens. Sure, there's rape and incest and all that. But in a relationship where it just happens, the guy still has no say in the matter. And that isn't "equal rights for women." It's "superior rights for women." It's reverse sexism and it's wrong.

Of course it's not equality... you are physically incapable of giving birth


when you do become capable of giving birth, you get a say what you can do with the fetus


a man can have have all the opinions in the world... but just because he feels one way, doesnt mean his partner has to do what she's told


that's not equallity... thats the slavery you were bitching about

 

[Bad_Doggie]

Again, this is not equality.

I did not say the man should make the call. I said the man should have his opinion in the matter. I said that the woman should not have be able to make the call alone, either, in a healthy relationship where shit just happens. Sure, there's rape and incest and all that. But in a relationship where it just happens, the guy still has no say in the matter. And that isn't "equal rights for women." It's "superior rights for women." It's reverse sexism and it's wrong.

What don’t you fucking get?

YOU have no right to impose on another human being what THEY do with THEIR body?

Woof!

 

[richard_daily]

I feel that men should be allowed to have all the abortions that they want.

 

[thelovingsadist]

What don’t you fucking get?

YOU have no right to impose on another human being what THEY do with THEIR body?

Woof!

I do have the right, when my potential child is involved. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it, because I'm not going to knock up some cheap whore that doesn't want my kid anyway.

Besides, I already told you guys to figure out a way for me to get pregnant and I will.

 

[badbabysitter]

I do have the right, when my potential child is involved. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it, because I'm not going to knock up some cheap whore that doesn't want my kid anyway.

Besides, I already told you guys to figure out a way for me to get pregnant and I will.

except you don't have the right... you have the right to express your opinion, but not to tell another person what they have to do if they dare to disagree with you


if you want to live in a country where women dont have any choice what they can do...I recommend Saudi Arabia

 

[thelovingsadist]

except you don't have the right... you have the right to express your opinion, but not to tell another person what they have to do if they dare to disagree with you


if you want to live in a country where women dont have any choice what they can do...I recommend Saudi Arabia

Women can have all the choices they want, but the decision of whether or not they have a baby does not effect them alone and thus being able to make it alone is not fair to the man who may want the kid and genuinely want and be able to raise it.

I am pro-choice, but I do not like women thinking they can use it as a get out of jail free card. Getting pregnant is just as much the woman's mistake as it is the mans (unless rape or incest or whatever), so blaming the man alone for it (when he's not an ass that really is responsible) is foolish and ignorant, and using abortion as a get out of jail free card is immature and irresponsible. There are other circumstances and other opinions, yes. But this is how most of the women that are pro-life who I've met treat abortion.

And, I really do have the right. I have the right because I'm not getting anyone pregnant. But even if I was, it would be a planned and worked out thing, and I definitely have say so in that.