Below the belt

[ChloeTzang]

Overnight, Hezbollah tried to commit mass murder by firing rockets at large Israeli cities. You will hear nothing about this from the UN or from the left.

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[ChloeTzang]

When you learn that all your Hezbollah friends have blown up

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[DukeofPaducah]

Through the endless cycle of attacks and reprisals, I cannot get past the inception of all this death and destruction.
It’s described in the Old Testament book of Joshua.

The entire city of Jericho was put to the sword. Because God told the Tribes of Israel to.
One family was spared.
Make sense to you?

 

[lessOHmo]

Through the endless cycle of attacks and reprisals, I cannot get past the inception of all this death and destruction.
It’s described in the Old Testament book of Joshua.

The entire city of Jericho was put to the sword. Because God told the Tribes of Israel to.
One family was spared.
Make sense to you?

Take it up with HIM

 

[DukeofPaducah]

Take it up with HIM

I imagine I will eventually get the chance.
O Jehovah! You got some ‘splaining to do!

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

Through the endless cycle of attacks and reprisals, I cannot get past the inception of all this death and destruction.
It’s described in the Old Testament book of Joshua.

The entire city of Jericho was put to the sword. Because God told the Tribes of Israel to.
One family was spared.
Make sense to you?

Absolutely. No-one from Jericho protested afterwards and they certainly didn't launch terrorist attacks. We can always learn from the Old Testament.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Gosh, a truly dreadful Israeli attack on an innocent fireworks enthusiast's house. Shocking! Truly shocking. Why aren't we allowed fireworks like that?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1838231894565024200

 

[deckardB26354]

Glad you can find humor in death, Ping Pang.

I shouldn’t be surprised given your track record.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

Israel isn’t starving Gaza. It’s allowed humanitarian aid in to feed the population, but it’s often stolen by Hamas. Neither has it intentionally targeted civilians, although civilian casualties are unavoidable considering Hamas’s tactic of using human shields.


The crimes that Israel is charged with are a direct result of Hamas’s method of conducting the war. They don’t try to protect the civilians in Gaza. They try to maximize their suffering so Israel will be blamed.

Civilian casualties can and should always be avoided when children are involved.
It’s the biggest single reason this slaughter has become multigenerational.
There is one remedy prescribed for those who would harm children and that is to fit the perpetrator for a millstone necktie and take them for a one-way ocean voyage.
Jesus came up with that one. And he was a pacifist.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

Absolutely. No-one from Jericho protested afterwards and they certainly didn't launch terrorist attacks. We can always learn from the Old Testament.

You are way too subtle for me. I wouldn’t recognize sarcasm if it mule-kicked me between the blinkers.
If you’re speaking to me, please. Be blunt, Emily

 

[Lazaran]

Civilian casualties can and should always be avoided when children are involved.
It’s the biggest single reason this slaughter has become multigenerational.
There is one remedy prescribed for those who would harm children and that is to fit the perpetrator for a millstone necktie and take them for a one-way ocean voyage.
Jesus came up with that one. And he was a pacifist.

So then Hamas and Hezbollah members should be fitted with millstones for placing command and control and offensive weapons infrastructure in close proximity to schools, hospitals, humanitarian aid centers, and children in residential areas / refugee camps, and then stopping them from leaving when Israel sends evacuation warnings, right???

Sounds good to me.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

In the final analysis it comes down to who is pulling the trigger.
In the absence of good faith negotiation that’s what I’m saying. Load the Love Boat for a farewell cruise
Beneath all the posturing, I believe hidden agendas are at work.
If Israel cedes the territory they have occupied I will be surprised.
As far as terrorism is concerned, one man’s rebel traitor is another’s George Washington
This has been going on for so long, there is no shortage of villains.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

In the final analysis it comes down to who is pulling the trigger.
In the absence of good faith negotiation that’s what I’m saying. Load the Love Boat for a farewell cruise
Beneath all the posturing, I believe hidden agendas are at work.
If Israel cedes the territory they have occupied I will be surprised.
As far as terrorism is concerned, one man’s rebel traitor is another’s George Washington
This has been going on for so long, there is no shortage of villains.

Israel ceded most of territory it occupied after the 1968 war. It held onto the West Bank and the Gaza Strip because Jordan and Egypt could use both to strike at directly at Israel's major population centers.

Israel left Gaza alone for years until Hama abruptly attacked last October. Similarly, Israel withdrew from occupied parts of Lebanon in 2000.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Israel ceded most of territory it occupied after the 1968 war. It held onto the West Bank and the Gaza Strip because Jordan and Egypt could use both to strike at directly at Israel's major population centers.

Israel left Gaza alone for years until Hama abruptly attacked last October. Similarly, Israel withdrew from occupied parts of Lebanon in 2000.

700,000 Israeli terrorists (sometimes called "settlers" by a compliant world press) have illegally occupied "settlements" in the West Bank, evicting law-abiding Palestinians from their homes and essentially squatting for possession. The net effect has been that the West Bank has been "balkanized" into a jigsaw puzzle of Palestinian and Israeli settlements.

It's also worth remembering that Netanyahu ONLY holds power because he agreed to redeploy IDF troops from the Gazan border to the West Bank to support the 700,000 Israeli Brownshirts conducting their 'Lebensraum' campaign of conquest and terror. He did so because his ultrafascist finance minister Bezalel Smotrich made this a condition of support of his ultra-right fascist party.

Smotrich is quite possibly the most evil Israeli politician alive. He wants to annex ALL illegal West Bank settlements into Israel, wants to revoke the Israeli citizenship of Palestinian Israelis, and has publicly stated that Israel will never be safe while Arabs live.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

I guess what I’m trying to say is, a security buffer here, an impromptu kibbutz there, what is the net
gain/loss of territory over the years? Someone thinks God’s will is underway.

It’s tragically ironic to use the German term ‘living room’ in this case.

Conflict in Gaza is mentioned in the Old Testament Bible. The occupants were called Philistines then.

I just don’t see much dedication to a two-state solution. Then or now.

 

[butters]

far from the pager and walkie-talkie operation quelling violence in the territories, things are escalating at a horrific rate

 

[DukeofPaducah]

Israel ceded most of territory it occupied after the 1968 war. It held onto the West Bank and the Gaza Strip because Jordan and Egypt could use both to strike at directly at Israel's major population centers.

Israel left Gaza alone for years until Hama abruptly attacked last October. Similarly, Israel withdrew from occupied parts of Lebanon in 2000.

The news this morning mentioned more US military involvement in the Middle East is underway, because of recent events in Lebanon.
Not an encouraging sign for those looking for a cease fire or timely release of hostages.
That would be my primary focus. Megeddon is in too close in proximity for my comfort.

Now would be an excellent time for Smokin’ Joe to swing his sac far and wide. He ‘s on his way out the door regardless. Let Ms Harris look over his shoulder with a mother’s concern.

I know no one here asked, but I feel obligated to make at least a feeble effort. to preach.
I notice a few posts have a theme marked with vengeance. That is understandable, but not really justifiable.
I read somewhere that vengeance doesn’t really belong to us, and I don’t believe that would promote a cease fire in the short term.
More on that later should I survive the pillory and vegetable assault.

 

[JackLuis]

As far as Pager and walkietalkies are concerned I think it was a brilliant tactic. The car and motor scooter bombs are a bit much though. When Hezbollah is flinching over their toilet seats and Lazyboys they may change their tactics.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

If you don’t mind collateral damage the tactic is still brutal and more than a little sociopathic.
I guess you could find brilliant in that mix.
Have you checked stats on civilian casualties vs Hezbollah fighters.
Do you have any interest in a cease-fire or a possible hostage release?
Do you think this is like playing Pokémon? Gotta kill ‘em all?

Your cluck is resounding, but your comb is a little anemic.

 

[RobDownSouth]

If you don’t mind collateral damage the tactic is still brutal and more than a little sociopathic.

The term "collateral damage" appears to have no direct translation to the Turkish, Saudi and Israeli national languages.

Have you checked stats on civilian casualties vs Hezbollah fighters.

Any supporter of the Israeli genocidal campaign in Gaza will assure you there is no such thing as "civilian casualties".
War is heck.
"You gotta break a few thousand eggs to make a genocide omelet."

 

[butters]

As far as Pager and walkietalkies are concerned I think it was a brilliant tactic. The car and motor scooter bombs are a bit much though. When Hezbollah is flinching over their toilet seats and Lazyboys they may change their tactics.

'brilliant'? possibly, or simply brazen enough to break international humanitarian law where other nations might not even having considered those options

one nation deploying these tactics and getting away with it opens the spigot: how 'brilliant' will you find it if russia or north korea decided to intercept an order of new laptops (as an example) intended for the American military, or the FBI, or if they did the same with ear-pieces similarly planned to be used by American forces or the police? Still 'brilliant', or purely deadly and against International war laws?

 

[Yarglenurp]

I’m truly amazed by how many people care about this part of the world, and then just don’t give half a shit about most of the other atrocities out there.

At this very moment, Myanmar is in the midst of civil war after displacing millions of Rohingya. India’s Manipur is undergoing a low-level civil war between its major ethnic groups. Sudan has been in a clusterfuck that’s putting millions into famine. Crickets.

But you use the word “Israel” and all of suddenly people come out of the woodwork to give a shit.

Bad shit happens everywhere, but let’s take care of the bad shit happening in our back yard before worrying too much about the bad shit happening in some random other part of the world.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I’m truly amazed by how many people care about this part of the world, and then just don’t give half a shit about most of the other atrocities out there.

At this very moment, Myanmar is in the midst of civil war after displacing millions of Rohingya. India’s Manipur is undergoing a low-level civil war between its major ethnic groups. Sudan has been in a clusterfuck that’s putting millions into famine. Crickets.

But you use the word “Israel” and all of suddenly people come out of the woodwork to give a shit.

Bad shit happens everywhere, but let’s take care of the bad shit happening in our back yard before worrying too much about the bad shit happening in some random other part of the world.

Gil Scott-Heron famously opined "the revolution will not be televised"...
However, video evidence from Gaza indicates that "the genocide will be televised".

 

[DukeofPaducah]

I’m truly amazed by how many people care about this part of the world, and then just don’t give half a shit about most of the other atrocities out there.

At this very moment, Myanmar is in the midst of civil war after displacing millions of Rohingya. India’s Manipur is undergoing a low-level civil war between its major ethnic groups. Sudan has been in a clusterfuck that’s putting millions into famine. Crickets.

But you use the word “Israel” and all of suddenly people come out of the woodwork to give a shit.

Bad shit happens everywhere, but let’s take care of the bad shit happening in our back yard before worrying too much about the bad shit happening in some random other part of the world.

The points you make about violence around the globe are all valid without doubt.
Here’s my chief concern about the Middle East conflict.
It’s been foretold that this is the site where the End of Days begins.
Several of the interested parties have nuclear options. If pushed into a corner, how will Israel respond?
Russia? They’re fond of Iran. What if they decide to GIVE them a thermonuclear device?
Serious missteps could turn a glowing sandbox into our smoking conversation pit in, what,
40 minutes?