Democratic Primary Fucktussle!

[Dumpington]

New polling numbers just released from the RealClearPolitics national averages:

29.7% - Joe Biden - (Creepy-Sleepy Joe drops below thirty percent, but he's still in the lead!)

18.0 - Elizabeth Warren - (Liz edges-up slightly, remaining just ahead of old socialist Bernie!)

17.5 - Bernie Sanders - (What will Bernie's people do when he's AGAIN denied the nomination?)

7.2 - Kamala Harris - (Kamala had her chance and she blew it!)

4.3 - Pete Buttigieg - (Mayor Pete is slowly fading away.)

2.7 - Andrew Yang - (WHY is Yang even running? The guy's NEVER going to win!)

2.5 - Cory Booker - (I think that Cory is hoping to maybe be Biden's running-mate!)

source: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ - the other twenty-or-so Democrat candidates are hanging on by their fingernails.

 

[YDB95]

I'm curious as to WHY some lefties have a problem with them, as alluded to above by YDB95.

I'm sure someone here can figure it out.

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "I'm sure someone here can figure it out."

I'm sure you'll tell us when you're ready to do so. In the meantime, NEW polling numbers released today from the RealClearPolitics.com national averages:

29.8% - Joe Biden - (Creepy-Sleepy Joe maintains his double-digit lead!)

18.0 - Elizabeth Warren - (Senator Pocahontas remains in second-place!)

17.7 - Bernie Sanders - (That old white male socialist from Vermont remains in 3rd!)

7.0 - Kamala Harris - (Remember when Kamala was actually considered to be a viable contender?)

4.3 - Pete Buttigieg - (Mayor Pete can't seem to catch a break!)

2.7 - Andrew Yang - (This guy is every bit as weird as was "Beto!")

2.5 - Cory Booker - (Cory stagnates in 7th-place.)

The remaining twenty or so Democratic Party candidates should begin dropping-out like flies after this next round of debates.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

YDB95 writes: "I'm sure someone here can figure it out."

I'm sure you'll tell us when you're ready to do so. In the meantime, NEW polling numbers released today from the RealClearPolitics.com national averages:

29.8% - Joe Biden - (Creepy-Sleepy Joe maintains his double-digit lead!)

18.0 - Elizabeth Warren - (Senator Pocahontas remains in second-place!)

17.7 - Bernie Sanders - (That old white male socialist from Vermont remains in 3rd!)

7.0 - Kamala Harris - (Remember when Kamala was actually considered to be a viable contender?)

4.3 - Pete Buttigieg - (Mayor Pete can't seem to catch a break!)

2.7 - Andrew Yang - (This guy is every bit as weird as was "Beto!")

2.5 - Cory Booker - (Cory stagnates in 7th-place.)

The remaining twenty or so Democratic Party candidates should begin dropping-out like flies after this next round of debates.

There are quite a few polls, such as those more local to Iowa or New Hampshire, that are going thin out the herd, but Tulsi Gabbard is doing far better there than in these, so she's likely to see better numbers as the primaries go forward. Most of the twenty odd others will sink and have to drop out from lack of funding if nothing else. I foresee Beto having to go far faster than he wishes, and the only question with him, Delaney, Bennet, and others, is what will happen when they do. Who will get their small sliver of voters?

By Iowa, I expect that Biden will be walking wounded, but still in the Top Three, along with Bernie and Warren. The field will whittle down to the following:

1. Bernie Sanders (surging straight to the top)
2. Elizabeth Warren (nipping at Bernie's heels)
3. Joe Biden (hanging onto the Top Three by the skin of his teeth, helped by defections from Kamala)
4. Kamala Harris (fighting to stay relevant)
5/6. Andrew Yang or Tulsi Gabbard (almost neck and neck, likely to be statistically tied.....you can flip either of these for the other).
7. Mayor Pete (hanging on for hopes of cabinet post)
8. Cory Booker (still keeping his campaign alive, but on life support)

Everyone else will be gone.

 

[Dumpington]

SEVERUSMAX writes: "By Iowa, I expect that Biden will be walking wounded, but still in the Top Three, along with Bernie and Warren... everyone else will be gone."

The last time Joe competed in Iowa's presidential caucuses (2008) he finished 5th - this time, he'll finish 1st. The folks at RealClearPolitics.com keep separate poll-averaging numbers for each state with an upcoming primary or caucuses, and here's what they currently say about IOWA:

28.5% - Joe Biden - ("Gropin' Joe's" lead in Iowa is similar to his lead nationwide!)

18.0 - Elizabeth Warren - (Liz remains a full ten-points behind Creepy-Sleepy Joe!)

17.5 - Bernie Sanders - (Bernie's got his core of loyal supporters, but that's about all he can muster!)

8.5 - Kamala Harris - (It'll be interesting to see where Kamala's supporters go after she drops out!)

7.5 - Pete Buttigieg - (Mayor Pete is doing considerably better in Iowa than he is nationwide!)

2.5 - Amy Klobuchar - (The senator from neighboring Minnesota is in 6th-place in Iowa!)

2.5 - Tom Steyer - (The green billionaire from San Francisco does better here than he does nationwide!)

source: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ - again, this is their IOWA poll numbers, and not their numbers nationwide!

 

[YDB95]

Keep in mind that Iowa is a caucus state, not a primary one. People supporting candidates whose support doesn't reach a certain threshold on caucus night will switch their allegiances to others. So for any polls to really tell us anything, you'd need to also ask people's second choice.

 

[JackLuis]

Wall Street executives are reportedly terrified of Elizabeth Warren — and she’s absolutely delighted about it

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) is reportedly scaring Wall Street executives as she continues to rise in the race for the 2020 Democratic Party presidential nomination, and she couldn’t be happier.

CNBC’s Jim Cramer apparently brought a smile to her face Tuesday in a video posted on Twitter. The “Mad Money” host was discussing the fact that Wells Fargo hasn’t had a permanent CEO for months with the “Squawk on the Street” team, and then he threw out an offhand comment that perhaps CEOs and potential CEOs are worried about Warren’s potential presidency.

“I’ve got to tell you, when you get off the desk and you talk to executives, they’re more fearful of her winning!” he said. “I mean I’ve never heard anybody say: ‘Look, she’s gotta be stopped! She’s gotta stopped!’ … She keeps going up in the polls, she’s going to win Iowa, I believe. She’s a very compelling figure on the stump.”

Host David Faber agreed, saying he’s heard the same things.

:rolleyes

‘I approve this message’: Elizabeth Warren trolls ‘Mad Money’s’ Jim Cramer for saying Wall Street is scared of her

 

[BotanyBoy]

Wall Street executives are reportedly terrified of Elizabeth Warren — and she’s absolutely delighted about it





:rolleyes

‘I approve this message’: Elizabeth Warren trolls ‘Mad Money’s’ Jim Cramer for saying Wall Street is scared of her

Yea comrade, because she's directly threatened their private property, American dreams and freedom to make fuck loads of money.....with anti-American socialist policies.

No shock you're a big fan of hers!!

So, why is it that you hate the USA so much Jack??

What is your problem with freedom and liberty?

Why not just go to one of the many other nations that are more oppressed in ways you approve of?

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's ok you don't have to explain your support for an anti-American freedom loathing authoritarian leftist.

I'd be ashamed too.

 

[JackLuis]

BB, I don't think that you understand the principles of the American Republic. E Pluribus Unim doesn't mean everyone for themselves.

 

[Dumpington]

One the eve of the next Democratic Party presidential debates, it's Creepy-Sleepy Joe maintaining his double-digit lead in the polls, according to the latest RealClearPolitics.com averaging of all of the national polls:

28.1% - Joe Biden - (So long as "Gropin' Joe" controls the levers-of-power he will maintain his lead!)

17.6 - Bernie Sanders - (Bernie moves up into a second-place tie with Pocahontas!)

17.6 - Elizabeth Warren - (Liz will FINALLY face Joe Biden on the debate stage!)

6.9 - Kamala Harris - (With every new poll Kamala drops down a little bit more!)

4.6 - Pete Buttigieg - (Like Kamala, Mayor Pete is growing steadily weaker!)

2.6 - Francis O'Rourke - ("Beto" surges back up into the top-seven!)

2.6 - Cory Booker - (I'm guessing that Cory would be happy being selected as Biden's running-mate!)

Three others will make the debate-stage tomorrow night, including Klobuchar, Yang, & Castro - the other ten-plus candidates? Not this time around, losers!

 

[BotanyBoy]

BB, I don't think that you understand the principles of the American Republic.

Says the guy cheering a candidate that is openly advocating forced collectivism, the elimination of private property/markets and voluntary private resource/service exchanges.

But by all means do point out exactly what you think I've got wrong.

E Pluribus Unim doesn't mean everyone for themselves.

Never said it did.

I will elaborate however and say that life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and individual civil rights are all totally incompatible with the kinds of authoritarian collectivism the politicians YOU support are advocating.

 

[JackLuis]

10 Democrats vying for the White House take the stage in Texas. Here’s what to watch for.

Will you be watching tonight? Be sure to stock up on refreshments, I suggest hard liquor!




Trump could lose to ‘every Democrat on the debate stage’ if his poll numbers keep cratering: conservative

Responding to new polls where voters overwhelming are saying Donald Trump does not “deserve” to be re-elected, conservative columnist Jennifer Rubin speculated that voters will coalesce behind whomever the Democrats choose as their nominee in 2020 — and that candidate will prevail.

Writing at the Washington Post, the conservative noted, the new poll that stated “The 60% who say the President does not deserve to be reelected is similar to the 63% who felt that way in November 2017. That outpaces his most recent predecessors at a similar stage in their presidencies.”

 

[BotanyBoy]

10 Democrats vying for the White House take the stage in Texas. Here’s what to watch for.

Will you be watching tonight? Be sure to stock up on refreshments, I suggest hard liquor!




Trump could lose to ‘every Democrat on the debate stage’ if his poll numbers keep cratering: conservative

You and RAW keep dreaming that anti-American dream comrade!!!

Your beloved vision of a totalitarian Soviet States of America are at hand.....LOL


Again, you hate the USA so much and want the exact opposite of everything it stands for....which is available in abundance in numerous nations around the globe.

Why not just go to one of the many other nations that are into the kinds of oppression you support bringing to the USA as "progress" ?

 

[YDB95]

Why not just go to one of the many other nations that are into the kinds of oppression you support bringing to the USA as "progress" ?

I did, and I can tell you one thing: in four and a half years in Australia, I have never once woken up in the morning feeling oppressed by my reasonably priced, tax-paid health care, nor by my knowledge that there has been exactly one mass-shooting 23 years ago vs. probably over a hundred during that time back home.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I did, and I can tell you one thing: in four and a half years in Australia, I have never once woken up in the morning feeling oppressed by my reasonably priced, tax-paid health care, nor by my knowledge that there has been exactly one mass-shooting 23 years ago vs. probably over a hundred during that time back home.

None of that is the kind of oppression being spoken of by the "progressive" left that Jack is supporting and Australia isn't even close, it's Reich wing. Has Nazi stuff like the voluntary exchange of goods and services.

Australia doesn't take peoples private property and force collective ownership like E. Warren wants to do.

Reasonably priced tax-paid HC? Nothing stopping any state from doing so. Nobody would give a shit even if that was being proposed.

What's being proposed is nationalizing the insurance/HC industries, like E. Warren wants.

Nobody is scared of a lower mass shooting rate which can be done manny ways without violating 2A rights....but that's not what ANY (D)'s want, they are actively trying to outright eliminate that right.

 

[YDB95]

Since that "oppression" largely exists in your own head, it's not something I'm likely to lose any sleep over.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Since that "oppression" largely exists in your own head, it's not something I'm likely to lose any sleep over.

No it doesn't, I've linked you the policy proposals more than once.

Not to mention the verifiable basic history of the left.

In China alone it's tortured and killed over 40 MILLION people in the last century.

Soviet Russia over 25 Million people.

Korean peninsula, 18 million people.

Cambodia, 2.5 million people.

Being willfully ignorant doesn't make it go away comrade.

 

[YDB95]

If you really have read those policy proposals and you think they're comparable to Stalinism or Khmer Rouge, I don't know that I can help you. I do know it's not worth my time trying to reason with you.

 

[BotanyBoy]

If you really have read those policy proposals and you think they're comparable to Stalinism or Khmer Rouge, I don't know that I can help you. I do know it's not worth my time trying to reason with you.

I don't think those policy proposals precisely resemble things the worst of the left have ever done but the ideology behind them is irrefutably the same ideology that lead them to mass murder on scale that is still unmatched today.

Before millions starved to death policy proposals pushing the same political values....forced collectivism, nationalization of markets/industry/means of production/natural resources and wealth redistribution destroying private property in pursuit of equity. All totally antithetical to US values, were put into place well before people started eating their kids to make it through the winter.

Not having death camps doesn't make fascism not a dangerous as fuck political ideology.

In that same light not having gulags and vast famines already happening....doesn't make socialism not a dangerous as fuck political ideology.

Both are equally and totally un-fuckin-American.

 

[YDB95]

Both also have literally nothing to do with the Green New Deal et al.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Both also have literally nothing to do with the Green New Deal et al.

Never said they did.

Hitler had nothing to do with the Aryan Brotherhood or the KKK...doesn't make their shared ideology any less shitty, vile and un-American.

Same with the GND, just because Mao didn't write it himself, doesn't make the proposals for the exact same kinds of authoritarian collectivism in the pursuit of economic/social equity contained inside any less shitty or evil.

 

[Dumpington]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ - I checked the RealClearPolitics.com web-site this morning to see what the latest compilation of polls look like:

26.8% - Joe Biden - (Creepy-Sleepy Joe no longer enjoys a double-digit lead in the polls!)

17.3 - Bernie Sanders - (The OTHER old white male socialist candidate appears to be gaining strength!)

16.8 - Elizabeth Warren - (Liz is exactly TEN-POINTS behind "Gropin' Joe" at this moment!)

6.5 - Kamala Harris - (Kamala's going nowhere fast!)

4.8 - Pete Buttigieg - (Mayor Pete continues to stagnate in the single digits!)

3.0 - Andrew Yang - (Yang surges up to the three percentile mark!)

2.8 - Francis O'Rourke - ("Beto" rounds-out the top-seven in 7th-place!)

The remaining 14 of 15 Democratic Party presidential candidates should seriously begin considering dropping-out at this time!

 

[JKendallDane]

Last night at the debate, Beto says: "Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15's."

Within minutes, a GOP Texas state lawmaker Tweets out: "My AR is ready for you" which prompted accusations of that being a "death threat."

I'm not totally certain that qualifies exactly as a "death threat" but I am pretty sure it would be found on a list of "How ammosexuals masturbate."

.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ - I checked the RealClearPolitics.com web-site this morning to see what the latest compilation of polls look like:

26.8% - Joe Biden - (Creepy-Sleepy Joe no longer enjoys a double-digit lead in the polls!)

17.3 - Bernie Sanders - (The OTHER old white male socialist candidate appears to be gaining strength!)

16.8 - Elizabeth Warren - (Liz is exactly TEN-POINTS behind "Gropin' Joe" at this moment!)

6.5 - Kamala Harris - (Kamala's going nowhere fast!)

4.8 - Pete Buttigieg - (Mayor Pete continues to stagnate in the single digits!)

3.0 - Andrew Yang - (Yang surges up to the three percentile mark!)

2.8 - Francis O'Rourke - ("Beto" rounds-out the top-seven in 7th-place!)

The remaining 14 of 15 Democratic Party presidential candidates should seriously begin considering dropping-out at this time!

A recent New Hampshire poll has Tulsi Gabbard at 6% and several have her at 2 or 3 percent. Why should she bow out?