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[Betticus]

I would like to open up the topic of subspace for discussion and exploration. Any thoughts, opinions, questions, stories and experiences with subspace I would be jazzed to talk about.

Have you ever been placed into subspace or have you ever put someone else into subspace?

Was subspace achieved accidentally or was getting to subspace a well planned and thought out intentional act?

What were or are the physical and psychological components involved that bring you to subspace?

What does subspace feel like?

 

[Betticus]

There is a bdsm wiki on subspace in case anyone is unfamiliar

 

[cookiecat]

This thread is in Talk re: subdrop. Wanted to include it here for more info

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1443382

 

[SissySalina]

If you are talking about that time when you only hear and do what that voice tells you to do, unlike hypnosis, you are aware of what you are doing but have no control over it- then yes, been there.

 

[KimGordon67]

Super interesting discussion - and I'm intrigued that the thread Cookie linked to describes 'drop' in somewhat negative terms. So I'm guessing that what referred to 'sub drop' and 'sub space' can be different things?

The relationship I have with a significant power/control dynamic to it is very physical - I'd say that in the bdsm spectrum, I'm tending towards bdsM - although I think there's elements of S in there as well. We'd had a fairly intense session one night, and afterwards I felt what I described at the time as 'like morphine', and a distinct sensation of floating. I did a bit of research afterwards, mostly in bdsm fora that talked about sub space and the endorphins (I think it's endorphins?) that are produced in this sort of play do indeed mimic the effects of morphine.
It's happened a handful of other times, but I don't think it's something I'd chase - it seems a bit risky to be trying to make that happen. My in-charge guy loves it when it happens though.

On a lesser scale, for me any sort of play like definitely necessitate a good cuddle afterwards at any time (although the effect described above seemed to work best with minimal physical contact in that moment). He says one of the things he likes about it is how it brings me closer to him.

I have no idea if any of that fits into the official definition of 'sub space'. (That's a bit of a joke for anyone who's following the 'true submissive' thread, but also a somewhat genuine question.)

 

[cookiecat]

KimGordon! You're right about the link I posted. Betticus asked for comments on subspace. I linked the thread about subdrop.

Since I'm all about the link, here's info on subspace vs. subdrop

http://www.kinkweekly.com/article-jenn/subspace-and-subdrop/

Subspace is usually a pretty happy, floaty place, especially with physical stuff. It scares me a bit because I get to a place where I lose my mind and can't determine where I'm at in terms of needing to stop.

I had the skin on my back flayed when we were playing with a new flogger - it was like skinning your knee - no blood, just shiny like sweating. I kept wanting more. He finally touched my back and realized what had happened.

Plus I get all crazy - I want to tell whoever's playing with me I love them, I'll go past negotiated terms. I realized how super important it is to play with people I trusted.

I'm a huge fan of mind fuckery and emotional masochism. That sends my brain into a whole new direction. A simple example is orgasm denial, edged over and over. What will I do for release? My brain, which seems directly linked to my pussy in those moments, says I'll do some pretty interesting things in order to finally orgasm. Is that subspace??

Where does that cathartic ugly cry get categorized? I've heard a few others describe enjoying that moment of letting go, cumming and crying. Is that part of subspace or someplace on the way back down to subdrop? (Or does it matter?)

 

[tryn2Bgood]

I haven't read any of the threads on this, but I think subspace is that 'high' and loss of self control. It can be a euphoric state that does resemble the effects of certain drugs, which is why someone would 'chase' that feeling. Also why the aftereffects can be like 'coming down' from a drug induced high...subdrop. There can be physical as well as emotional repercussions to varying degrees. Subdrop can occur with or without reaching subspace. It's your body's way of coping with being physically, mentally, or emotionally stimulated beyond its average boundaries and returning to a normal state of being. It can be enjoyable, scary, and, in some cases, addictive.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[KimGordon67]

KimGordon! You're right about the link I posted. Betticus asked for comments on subspace. I linked the thread about subdrop.

Since I'm all about the link, here's info on subspace vs. subdrop

http://www.kinkweekly.com/article-jenn/subspace-and-subdrop/

Subspace is usually a pretty happy, floaty place, especially with physical stuff. It scares me a bit because I get to a place where I lose my mind and can't determine where I'm at in terms of needing to stop.

I had the skin on my back flayed when we were playing with a new flogger - it was like skinning your knee - no blood, just shiny like sweating. I kept wanting more. He finally touched my back and realized what had happened.

Plus I get all crazy - I want to tell whoever's playing with me I love them, I'll go past negotiated terms. I realized how super important it is to play with people I trusted.

I'm a huge fan of mind fuckery and emotional masochism. That sends my brain into a whole new direction. A simple example is orgasm denial, edged over and over. What will I do for release? My brain, which seems directly linked to my pussy in those moments, says I'll do some pretty interesting things in order to finally orgasm. Is that subspace??

Where does that cathartic ugly cry get categorized? I've heard a few others describe enjoying that moment of letting go, cumming and crying. Is that part of subspace or someplace on the way back down to subdrop? (Or does it matter?)

Yes, all that. I've only ever had this with someone I do have a strong emotional connection with - I can imagine it must be a bit ... strange? ... if it's someone you're not in a relationship with.

The crying thing is interesting too - I'm never really quite sure what to do with that, and I think I try to hold it back if I can. Although it feels good for me, I suspect it's a bit confusing, and maybe not pleasant, for him ... I guess that's something we need to talk about.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[cookiecat]

Yes, all that. I've only ever had this with someone I do have a strong emotional connection with - I can imagine it must be a bit ... strange? ... if it's someone you're not in a relationship with.

The crying thing is interesting too - I'm never really quite sure what to do with that, and I think I try to hold it back if I can. Although it feels good for me, I suspect it's a bit confusing, and maybe not pleasant, for him ... I guess that's something we need to talk about.

For me the crying lands in that cuddle place you get to - where your partner says it brings you closer. In that moment, I feel more open to accepting something softer. It feels melty. Like I can melt in to him more.

I've played with people I don't know well. Early on, unsafely. I was really lucky I met people who just wanted to get off and not hurt me in any way. I figured out pretty quickly I had to play smarter.

The hard part was figuring out a way to keep that emotional subspacey stuff in check with someone I didn't want to have sex with. Or heave-cry with. I wanted to experience things like electrical play or having a single tail used on me but didn't want to wait until I was in a relationship.

 

[Betticus]

I never thought of different kinds of subspace such as physically induced subspace vs. mental subspace. It could be limited experience on my part.

 

[staciliv]

An experienced Dom always allows time for the bottom to get into subspace. He generally binds her in some position where she knows she is defenseless. Knowing he can do anything with her and she can do nothing to prevent it drives her into this happy state.

I've been there many times. I think when there my brain is disconnected from reality, much as being intoxicated. I usually remain there for some time afterward, depending on the intensity of the scene hours or even days.

 

[Showmewhatchugot84]

Nothing gets me into subspace more than having my cock caged. Knowing my orgasm isn't an option allows me really put all my focus on my wife. We've been practicing a FLR lifestyle the past 3 weeks. After being together almost 20 years our affection for each other has never been stronger. Before I would always just rush to get my cock in her and get off. Now we're making out constantly, which we haven't done in years, and just every touch and tease has so much more meaning and feeling to it. It's like we're falling in love all over again, just with a much different dynamic.