19 kids and counting on TLC.

[bg23]

I never suggested you made people post, although most of the posts before yours didnt really have a lot to do with the actual thread topic.

You made a statement, about people mocking Christians, even though no one in this thread, mocked Christians. I simply pointed out your mistake. Not saying Christians never get mocked, just that, in this thread, it hadnt happened yet.

Also, you didnt originally give your opinion on the family, you gave your opinion on the OP and the people who posted in the thread.

One last thing, you do understand this is a public forum, right? When you post, people read it, and comment. This is how it works, someone makes a statement, people agree, or disagree, argue/discuss, etc. Why do you continue to post, and then get upset when people respond?

why must you be reasonable

it amused me that the point was flying right over her head.

 

[Angellica1612]

Reading is FUNdamental!

**pats bg on the head and smiles** You'll get the hang of it someday, dear. Hang in there.

 

[Kiss_My_Feet]

How does the very real fact that Christians are so often mocked here for their beliefs make me a whacko? I admit I didn't do a scientific study to get the percentages I used, but it's close enough. Did you read this thread? Fairly mild so far, but there are some very vocal members out there who haven't seen it yet. But, if you want to consider me a whacko, go right ahead. I'll be polite and not call you....no, I can't resist it. Have a great day, Kiss-My-Ass

Oh, man, I am soooo sorry, TW, I did it again! Bumpity, bump bump.

I think you're jealous of a functioning family that seems to be very happy. So how was your family life? Mom & Dad still married? Did they teach you any values?

 

[bg23]

**pats bg on the head and smiles** You'll get the hang of it someday, dear. Hang in there.

http://images.zap2it.com/images/tv-EP00869098/over-your-head-7.jpg

 

[TexasWife25]

Lol! You think I'm upset? That's too funny. You seem to think this thread would have fallen off the front page if I hadn't posted (in fact, you seemed a wee bit upset about that), so I must have made all those other people post.

Oh, I almost forgot. Thanks so much for the lesson in how a public forum works. I'd have been lost without that, and politeness demands appropriate thanks.

I see you ended your post, again, with You get confused a lot, don't you? I feel for you. But thanks for responding anyway.

Im fairly certain you're not a troll .. but every time you post, I question my belief that you're for real...

 

[Angellica1612]

So, every family should have a TV show pay for their lifestyle?

There's something painfully ironic going on here...

I think you're jealous of a functioning family that seems to be very happy. So how was your family life? Mom & Dad still married? Did they teach you any values?

How do you get that I'm jealous of that family? I think they're great. You did see where I listed the wonderful qualities they are teaching their kids, didn't you? Your comment makes no sense. I'm defending their right to have as many kids as they can want and afford.

My parents were married until death, almost 46 years. They were Christians who taught me right from wrong. No one in my family has ever been in jail for committing a crime, we didn't do drugs or break the law. We were happy and laughed a lot. My parents were wonderful, loving, hard-working honest people, and I miss them greatly. So, to answer your question, my family life was great.

 

[Angellica1612]

Im fairly certain you're not a troll .. but every time you post, I question my belief that you're for real...

**pokes my arm** Yep, I'm for real. I only have one account here, and I'll keep it that way. I'm not the least bit afraid to say what I think. Sometimes I don't have the energy if I know my opinion will go against the majority, so I don't respond to everything I read. I'm just feeling a bit more snarky today. I've actually been having fun sparring with you. I don't often agree with you on much of anything, but that's okay. See 'ya around

 

[TexasWife25]

**pokes my arm** Yep, I'm for real. I only have one account here, and I'll keep it that way. I'm not the least bit afraid to say what I think. Sometimes I don't have the energy if I know my opinion will go against the majority, so I don't respond to everything I read. I'm just feeling a bit more snarky today. I've actually been having fun sparring with you. I don't often agree with you on much of anything, but that's okay. See 'ya around

I dont mind that you have a differing opinion, but almost a whole page of comments sparked because you said

"Half the posers on here think any Christian is too stupid to be living and have no tolerance for belief of any kind. They are threatened by it and will leap to attack any statement of belief. Another 45% don't care one way or the other, but will find something else to mock about that family. 4% kinda believe in God, but will still criticize, just 'cause. That leaves 1% who will agree with you. It might be less."

When zero people had commented about the Duggers "Christianity". You should at least wait for someone to making a sweeping judgement before you criticize them

 

[Angellica1612]

I dont mind that you have a differing opinion, but almost a whole page of comments sparked because you said

"Half the posers on here think any Christian is too stupid to be living and have no tolerance for belief of any kind. They are threatened by it and will leap to attack any statement of belief. Another 45% don't care one way or the other, but will find something else to mock about that family. 4% kinda believe in God, but will still criticize, just 'cause. That leaves 1% who will agree with you. It might be less."

When zero people had commented about the Duggers "Christianity". You should at least wait for someone to making a sweeping judgement before you criticize them

I told you I was feeling snarky, lol. I think I need a nap.

 

[TexasWife25]

Oh, and my opinion on the Duggars is, they have too many children.

Ive seen the show a few times, the mother takes care of the youngest child, for as long as that child is the youngest. Each of the older children is assigned a few of the younger ones, who they care for on the day to day basis. So, the older siblings raise the younger ones. I dont care that they are "Christians", although to call them that is painting them with a fairly broad brush, since the father is the founder and leader of his own church.

I think they have only continued to have children because of the show, and the media attention. The fact that the mother has had serious health complications for her last 2 pregnancies, one child is disabled plus a miscarriage, says a lot about what they are looking for. I dont know many women, who would risk leaving 19 children, most of which are rather young, motherless just to have yet another child.

Yes, I support the notion, that they can have as many children as they can afford to care for.

But just because you can afford to have them, doesnt mean you should.

 

[Angellica1612]

Oh, and my opinion on the Duggars is, they have too many children.

Ive seen the show a few times, the mother takes care of the youngest child, for as long as that child is the youngest. Each of the older children is assigned a few of the younger ones, who they care for on the day to day basis. So, the older siblings raise the younger ones. I dont care that they are "Christians", although to call them that is painting them with a fairly broad brush, since the father is the founder and leader of his own church.

I think they have only continued to have children because of the show, and the media attention. The fact that the mother has had serious health complications for her last 2 pregnancies, one child is disabled plus a miscarriage, says a lot about what they are looking for. I dont know many women, who would risk leaving 19 children, most of which are rather young, motherless just to have yet another child.

Yes, I support the notion, that they can have as many children as they can afford to care for.

But just because you can afford to have them, doesnt mean you should.

It finally happened. We agree on something! It's definitely time for them to stop now that they are having so many health issues. I didn't know about the miscarriage. Do they not believe in birth control? Some faiths don't, maybe that's why. Like I said, I've only seen a few episodes over the years. I do admire them, though I don't agree with everything. And now, I really am going to take a nap, I'm yawning so hard my eyes are watering, and I have to work tonight. Have a good night

 

[Kiss_My_Feet]

Oh, and my opinion on the Duggars is, they have too many children.

Ive seen the show a few times, the mother takes care of the youngest child, for as long as that child is the youngest. Each of the older children is assigned a few of the younger ones, who they care for on the day to day basis. So, the older siblings raise the younger ones. I dont care that they are "Christians", although to call them that is painting them with a fairly broad brush, since the father is the founder and leader of his own church.

I think they have only continued to have children because of the show, and the media attention. The fact that the mother has had serious health complications for her last 2 pregnancies, one child is disabled plus a miscarriage, says a lot about what they are looking for. I dont know many women, who would risk leaving 19 children, most of which are rather young, motherless just to have yet another child.

Yes, I support the notion, that they can have as many children as they can afford to care for.

But just because you can afford to have them, doesnt mean you should.

I think you're missing the whole concept of family life, chores keep kids out of trouble and it teaches them family values and responsibility.

This is what Momma Duggar said on her website.

In a large family like ours, keeping up with the chores is just a fact of life. We have different chores, or jurisdictions, that our kids are responsible for, and we have a chore chart to keep track of all of them. Our daughter Jessa (19 years old) is such an organizer in our family (and I'm so grateful for these different children who have all these different strengths in different areas). Every once and a while we'll change up the jurisdictions, and Jessa distributes new chores to the kids for me because I've been so busy.

So the other day Justin (9 years old), came into my room with his clipboard and his little pencil and was just diligently working. And then he looked up from his clipboard and said, "Mama, did you brush your teeth yet?" And I said, "Well, nope but I was just getting ready to." And he said, "Oh, okay, good." And he walked off with his little clipboard in hand and then I looked at my husband Jim Bob and said, "What was that all about?" And he said, "Jessa reassigned the chores and the jurisdictions and she added a new one onto the list: She's making sure that everybody gets their teeth brushed, and Justin is the one in charge of the checklist." So apparently we're going to have some kind of a reward for those that brush their teeth three times a day.

And so everybody's chores had changed, and now our daughter Jennifer (4 years old) is just beaming and beside herself because her job is to gather the laundry, and that was Jackson's job. And Jackson was very happy to pass that job onto her because once the kids master a chore they're ready to move on to the next thing, and they don't really want to keep doing it. In fact, Jackson kept saying to me, "Isn't it time for somebody else to gather the laundry, Mama? You know, I am getting bigger."

The other day he was telling some family friends, "I don't do the laundry anymore, I have the trash job. But my job is really stinky -- I do the upstairs trash and that's where the diaper pail's at." And I said jokingly to him, "Yeah, Jackson, but you're so big now, you're 7, you can handle that; it's nothing for you." And then he smiled big and said, "Yeah, I can." It was so cute.

All the kids look forward to the change of the guard in chores. We're all a team. We have to work together, and everybody pulls their load. And whether the kids are little or big doesn't make any difference -- they can all do their part. Our daughter Jordan helps put the socks together, and while she's 3, there are certain smaller things that she can do. And she knows that she's a big girl and she gets to do it because it helps the family. And if she wasn't doing her chore we wouldn't have our socks mated, though half the time we still don't! But still, she's doing the best she can; we all are!

 

[CandiCame]

Oh, and my opinion on the Duggars is, they have too many children.

Ive seen the show a few times, the mother takes care of the youngest child, for as long as that child is the youngest. Each of the older children is assigned a few of the younger ones, who they care for on the day to day basis. So, the older siblings raise the younger ones. I dont care that they are "Christians", although to call them that is painting them with a fairly broad brush, since the father is the founder and leader of his own church.

I think they have only continued to have children because of the show, and the media attention. The fact that the mother has had serious health complications for her last 2 pregnancies, one child is disabled plus a miscarriage, says a lot about what they are looking for. I dont know many women, who would risk leaving 19 children, most of which are rather young, motherless just to have yet another child.

Yes, I support the notion, that they can have as many children as they can afford to care for.

But just because you can afford to have them, doesnt mean you should.

I have never watched this show, because I don't watch reality shows, because I don't support anyone who's attention whoring more then I am. But they sure as hell sound like attention whores.

To me, it doesn't matter that the family can support them, it sets a bad precedent for stupid viewers. But that's not enough for me to dislike someone- apparently violent video games set a bad precedent- it's the fact that people will watch this shit, in a world as overpopulated as ours where resources are already getting scarce and ridiculously hoarded in "rich" countries, to bring that many children into the world. It's just fucking retarded. But, we live in a free country, and you can be fucking retarded and a giant asshole who eats resources off a dieing planet as if they were candy in a store you're looting- just to get on TV, if you want. But the fact that you have fans defending those actions is what bothers me.

Taking the money for that show and trying to keep it populated with new offspring is the exact same thing as these redneck chicks who keep having kids for the TANF money- and I know a lot of those bitches. You keep yourself preggers for the health insurance, and she keeps herself preggers for the ratings. Children are not tickets to fame- they are not paychecks. They are people. And they are on a level where they cannot provide the individual attention those kids need to thrive- a day-care center can't have those caregiver-to-children ratios; because legally that's not enough to make sure the kids have the individual attention they need. I dislike people like this, and I know a lot of them, regardless of religion.

If you didn't want to read the entire post, here's the bullet point to take away: Children are not tickets to fame- they are not paychecks. They are people.

 

[TexasWife25]

I think you're missing the whole concept of family life, chores keep kids out of trouble and it teaches them family values and responsibility.

This is what Momma Duggar said on her website.

I think theres a huge difference between making someone take out the trash and making one child the primary parent of another.

 

[TexasWife25]

**pokes my arm** Yep, I'm for real. I only have one account here, and I'll keep it that way. I'm not the least bit afraid to say what I think. Sometimes I don't have the energy if I know my opinion will go against the majority, so I don't respond to everything I read. I'm just feeling a bit more snarky today. I've actually been having fun sparring with you. I don't often agree with you on much of anything, but that's okay. See 'ya around

I actually think we agree on several topics, we just approach the argument from very different angles.

 

[jake34]

I think theres a huge difference between making someone take out the trash and making one child the primary parent of another.

Very well said.

They are all having their childhood's stripped away to become early parents.

 

[DevilishTexan]

Others should raise their kids in a cult like setting? Force them into religion and control everything about their lives? Really?

Yeah that's exactly what they're doing.

 

[shewantsmore]

19 kids is way way to many.it drone me half mad looking after 3. there mum must be a saint

 

[DevilishTexan]

19 kids is way way to many.it drone me half mad looking after 3. there mum must be a saint

Whats amazing is the woman still looks good. Do I think 19 is pushing it? Sure. But hey if they're happy and kids seem happy and well balanced, God love 'em. Back in the day many families had huge broods and made it work. God does provide; I know that point is missed on many but somehow it happens.

 

[shewantsmore]

Ive never seen the programme myself,well must keep you fit in one way running around after them no sleep but as you said as long as there happy thats what counts.So many kids dont have that

 

[KRCummings]

I was in Boot with a woman who had 13 siblings. She seemed pretty well adjusted. Butt ugly but well adjusted. Her name in Boot was troll because, well you can imagine why. Nice girl though.

 

[RoryN]

They don't ask for anything from anyone and the family seems adjusted enough. I see no need to judge them.

Translated: they're promoting faith and God. So, as long as they're not killing their children, whatever they do is fine. (This is pretty much the approach anyone I've met who's a fan of the show takes.)

BTW, CIH made the thread, and his alts are throughout. I bet he doesn't even like the show.

 

[DevilishTexan]

Ive never seen the programme myself,well must keep you fit in one way running around after them no sleep but as you said as long as there happy thats what counts.So many kids dont have that

Like your outfit by the way. Hope it becomes a fad.

 

[KRCummings]

Translated: they're promoting faith and God. So, as long as they're not killing their children, whatever they do is fine. (This is pretty much the approach anyone I've met who's a fan of the show takes.)

BTW, CIH made the thread, and his alts are throughout. I bet he doesn't even like the show.

Wow, that would be dead-on if I hadn't said I'd judge them on religion. Yer a real smart one.

 

[KRCummings]

Ive never seen the programme myself,well must keep you fit in one way running around after them no sleep but as you said as long as there happy thats what counts.So many kids dont have that

The show is kinda boring. I've seen maybe 3 episodes and haven't been impressed. Typical day-in-the-life family shit. They seem to have a lot of energy. People like that make me tired.