Isn't it time men started rejecting Beta females?

[renard_ruse]

LOL I'm 27 and I realized women are attracted to men who can protect/provide for them when I was 14. Why else would jocks/soldiers/firefighters/rich guys get all the hot bitches?

I understand the transaction and I accept it. Actually she makes almost as much money as I do so she doesn't "need" me for anything.

She want's someone else? She can haul ass, better she roll than make my life miserable because she resents me. But I really don't think about it, life is entirely too good.

You claim to be anti-sexist but call a whole sex of people by a degrading slur? Interesting.

The reason firepeople and policepeople are popular with women is because they make good money, have good benefits, and get big pensions. Public sector unions ring a bell?

As for soldiers, my last girlfriend was in the Army and didn't want anything to do with Army guys. Well, maybe she was banging them behind my back, who knows, but she didn't want a relationship with one. Of course, they aren't unionized so they don't make that much moola.

 

[renard_ruse]

...A beta male believes there are rules of human attraction and all the rules are either stacked against him(women want men with money) or women are too stupid to understand them(women want bad boys who treat them mean)...

Don't believe in the Alpha-Beta thing myself, have no money issues, but I think the reason for the distain for gold diggers is more disgust with their lack of moral character than anything. Why is greed any less morally disgusting in a woman than in the CEO of a Wall Street financial conglomerate? At least the CEO is working hard to EARN his money not boinking someone for it.

 

[whome1952]

Don't believe in the Alpha-Beta thing myself, have no money issues, but I think the reason for the distain for gold diggers is more disgust with their lack of moral character than anything. Why is greed any less morally disgusting in a woman than in the CEO of a Wall Street financial conglomerate? At least the CEO is working hard to EARN his money not boinking someone for it.

I would dispute the highlighted text in your statement, but I do get your point. Although I might argue that the 'boinkin' might be harder work for the woman than most people realise.

I mean seriously have you looked at some of the politicians these women have been with?

Famous Politician "I took Viagra so we are going to be here for hours."
Gold Digger kneeling on the floor in front of him mutters. "I think it is going to take that long for me to find it."

 

[great lover]

Give women a taste of their own medicine.

Be an alpha female or get your shit sewn up!

What we need to reject is beta software. Software's that not ready for the market, but being dumped on the public for the purpose of getting it tested for free.

 

[ivantheterrible]

show some respect. and that starts with the men.
gotta show the boys what it is. be willing to drop to a knee to her, in front of her family.
show some respect and love.
even if you are rejected, you had the guts to do it.
this is how you get rid of sluts, floozies , and whores. what MAN wants to drop to a knee for that?
teach your sons well. and, if you haven't done it, and you are married now, do it. i dare you. be a man.
young ladies who do not see their self worth as a human exhibit it in different ways. cutting, pill abuse, sexual allowance (sluts, whores, etc), or ignore her feelings by working herself to death to acheive stuff. she just needs to know she is respected as a woman and can be loved for more than things or her body.
find her heart.
look at it this way.
it doesn't matter if you are poor as a church mouse, or had a bad past. you had the guts to show her, and her family that you DO love and RESPECT her. it doesn't matter if only one person saw you do this, and even if they belittle you for doing it, people talk. everyone does. word gets around. and hopefully to the women. and that makes them think. and FEEL what is right.

when the women start demanding respect (not in a bitchy way), then maybe all those sluts, floozies, and whores become a thing of the past. and men have to start acting like men. treating women with kindness, love, and respect.

i'd rather see my daughter with a man who is poor, without two knickles to rub together and treats her with love and respect.

i know i use the terms sluts and whores. but this is an adult forum. what you do, and how you do it in the bedroom is your business, of course unless you both don't mind it being open here. rather, i use the term in everyday life. i hope that makes sense.

 

[CandiCame]

Young women are now out-earning young men. Doctors can make bleeding, cysts and all that go away. And despite all of that, women still out-live men.

Then there is this.

http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com...ng-good-about-men-and-other-tricky-questions/





Those traits in a male are not valued at all.

And if being a beta male isn't so bad then why is 'beta male' ALWAYS an insult, but no one even cares about a woman being called a "beta female'? That's because status is irrelevant to a woman's sexual market value.


That doesn't mean any women will want to have sex with the mage. He can be called in to heal but when it's time to go to the tavern and meet the women his ass stays outside. Mages are, in general, viewed asexually. Raistlin Majere, anyone?


Uh, I see a lot of women sharing apartments. TONS of my renter's insurance policies have 2 or more women as named insureds, and they don't even have the same last names.

I think you misunderstood nearly EVERYTHING I said...

But the main bullet point to take away is-

I've never been made fun of for being a beta. I have gotten laid for being a beta. It's seriously never been a problem...

Mages get mad laid. Don't you remember Sepheroth's epic fan base? But that wasn't my point. It was that if everyone were warriors, then whenever you get hurt, you're fucked. Those 'feminie' traits- care, compassion, ect are IMPORTANT.

The last paragraph was a quote from Red vs Blue- one of my favorite shows. A joke you didn't get, apparently.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

nope.



So you "observed" the women that men dated, and that's how you dated? that sounds pretty ridiculously detached, and I can understand why you had problems... Perhaps you should figure out why you didn't search out women that you had common interests in, could have a good time around, and have meaningful conversations with... as an example.

I did. They didn't exist, not in the teens to 30 age group. Not even close.

Are you claiming that it's settled science? Because I think you know better.

It's a reliable science. If you are an alpha male you don't have to worry about the 1% of women who don't want you. Your dance card is too full to worry about it.

The only breaks I ever got from dealing with female bullshit was when I dated far out of my age group.

This goes back to your personal approach at finding women to date, which by your own words, shows that your approach was flawed to it's core.

If by flawed you mean I lacked basic conjuration skills and I didn't join the Weird Science! team, yeah, you have a point.

Not all people need or want a long-term relationship... and posting pictures does nothing. I wasn't saying it to brag, you just come off as someone who is extremely inexperienced with women.

There you go again, making up some 'inexperienced' claim to puff yourself up. You are naive, dude. Seriously.

Your own claims put your supposed experience highly suspect. You did not run into quality teenage or 20something women. You cannot claim this with any level of credibility. Nobody can.

30something women are far superior to their younger counterparts. It's at that age that their higher mental functions start kicking in.

Women complain a lot about how stupid men are, but they're really no better.

Then how have I gotten it in almost every single woman under 30 that I've dated?

You didn't.

Simple as that.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I think you misunderstood nearly EVERYTHING I said...

Nope, I understood you perfectly. Let's run it down, shall we?

And there's nothing wrong with having feminine energy- with compassion, nurturing personalities.

As I said, I understood what you said here perfectly. And I pointed out that these traits are not valued in men.

You seem to be a gamer. Haven't you ever played an RPG? If you go in with all fighters you won't have a white mage- what are you going to do when you get hurt? What do you want me to do, stab you better? The world needs different people to coexist peacefully. Alphas... can't really do that.

Again, understood perfectly. The problem with this is that a mage's usefulness does not relate to their sexual market value. Which was in fact my original point.

And... Sephiroth? He's not just a mage. The dude has a ridiculously long sword. You can't qualify him so much a mage as you can qualify him a battlemage, or even just a bad ass warrior. He's mostly known for his pretty boy and badass nature.

And pretty much all women can be alpha- especially around other chicks. That's why chicks can't share anything.

Again, I understood this flawlessly. Problem is there are tons of women who share apartments. Look at your local want ads, women usually only want female roommates. Whether it's a joke from Red vs Blue or not, it's still incredibly, frighteningly wrong.

I've never been made fun of for being a beta.

Then you didn't run into Richard Daily. I can show you the post he wrote that sparked the whole beta male discussion if you didn't catch it.

 

[richard_daily]

I did. They didn't exist, not in the teens to 30 age group. Not even close.

Maybe not that you encountered, but your opinion reeks of sexism.

"there are NO women that wanted me"... maybe that's because of who you were, rather than blaming the women, you should look inward grasshopper.

Besides, didn't you say that this was about your son? It sure doesn't sound that way to me.

It's a reliable science. If you are an alpha male you don't have to worry about the 1% of women who don't want you. Your dance card is too full to worry about it.

No, it isn't reliable science.

There you go again, making up some 'inexperienced' claim to puff yourself up. You are naive, dude. Seriously.

Your own claims put your supposed experience highly suspect. You did not run into quality teenage or 20something women. You cannot claim this with any level of credibility. Nobody can.

Would you like to make a large wager in regards to it? I can prove it if you make it worth my while.

30something women are far superior to their younger counterparts. It's at that age that their higher mental functions start kicking in.

Women complain a lot about how stupid men are, but they're really no better.


You didn't.

Simple as that.

If you choose to believe that, that's fine. but it's not true, and you live in a very small bubble.

 

[Frizzle_Fry]

You claim to be anti-sexist

Really? reaaaalllllyyyy? lmao...

The reason firepeople and policepeople are popular with women is because they make good money, have good benefits, and get big pensions. Public sector unions ring a bell?

What a sad ignorant little man you are...your mindset in the above comment is FAR more sexist than saying fire fighters (who don't make shit for money btw) get all the hot bitches.

"women only want firefighters/cops/soldiers/union workers for their money" or any other phrase that carries the same message with no "name calling" has never ever given a woman an orgasm. In fact you have a 99.9999999% chance of pissing a woman off with talk like that.

"I'm going to breed you like the filthy slut you are" or other similar message using various terms such as cunt, bitch, slut, whore etc. has aided in getting many women off....so I ask who really has demonstrated their sexism here?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Maybe not that you encountered, but your opinion reeks of sexism.

"there are NO women that wanted me"...

I dated far too often to say no women wanted me. But again that's another one of your attempts at a sly spin.

There were NO women who wanted geeks, especially not in the 18-30 crowd. I buried the geek lifestyle. It's called adaptation. Your reading skills are better than that.

Besides, didn't you say that this was about your son? It sure doesn't sound that way to me.

I don't want him to have to grow up under the same misandrist rules that men deal with now.

No, it isn't reliable science.

It's reliable enough that alpha males don't have to worry about the few women who don't want them.

Would you like to make a large wager in regards to it? I can prove it if you make it worth my while.

I'd rather waste the time telling my son never date anyone under 30 when he comes of age.

Stay away from young women, totally.

 

[richard_daily]

"I'm going to breed you like the filthy slut you are" or other similar message using various terms such as cunt, bitch, slut, whore etc. has aided in getting many women off....so I ask who really has demonstrated their sexism here?

You do understand the difference between fantasy and reality, right?

 

[richard_daily]

I dated far too often to say no women wanted me. But again that's another one of your attempts at a sly spin.

There were NO women who wanted geeks, especially not in the 18-30 crowd. I buried the geek lifestyle. It's called adaptation. Your reading skills are better than that.

I personally am friends with at least a dozen women aged 18-30 who live very much in "the geek lifestyle" in one way or another, so you're patently wrong. And they're all sorts of varieties of "nerds", so if you couldn't find a single one, put it on yourself.

Stay away from young women, totally.

That's your prerogative.... just don't expect anyone else to take your words as scripture.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Really? reaaaalllllyyyy? lmao...

What a sad ignorant little man you are...your mindset in the above comment is FAR more sexist than saying fire fighters (who don't make shit for money btw) get all the hot bitches.

It isn't the money that attracts women to men of these professions. It's the muscle, the image of him being her protector.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I personally am friends with at least a dozen women aged 18-30 who live very much in "the geek lifestyle" in one way or another, so you're patently wrong. And they're all sorts of varieties of "nerds", so if you couldn't find a single one, put it on yourself.

Just one thing, man. My dating market aka hunting ground, particularly in the 1990s, was the entire California Southland area - from Palm Springs to San Diego. As one point of fact absolutely none of the enthusiast clubs, anywhere, had anything more than maybe 1 woman who ever visited in, say, months. and she was NEVER someone under 30.

I've been challenged by guys like you before, though that those situations were more face to face. Which meant I had the actual experience of driving them to these many places to find their mythical "20something girl who isn't a pop culture airhead".

Hey. You know what. You just keep telling guys what you think. That just means that the smart guys who go for mature and higher-quality women won't have so much competition.

 

[richard_daily]

Just one thing, man. My dating market aka hunting ground, particularly in the 1990s, was the entire California Southland area - from Palm Springs to San Diego. As one point of fact absolutely none of the enthusiast clubs, anywhere, had anything more than maybe 1 woman who ever visited in, say, months. and she was NEVER someone under 30.

I've been challenged by guys like you before, though that those situations were more face to face. Which meant I had the actual experience of driving them to these many places to find their mythical "20something girl who isn't a pop culture airhead".

Hey. You know what. You just keep telling guys what you think. That just means that the smart guys who go for mature and higher-quality women won't have so much competition.

I don't know what an "enthusiast club" is, but if it's anything like what I'm picturing, there's no surprise that you weren't finding many women there.

Again, your comments show that you don't really have much experience with dating...

You're married. Be thankful for that, and stop your complaining.

 

[badbabysitter]

holy crap.. this is all based on him not getting laid when he was younger?

wow...that's just fucked up

 

[bronzeage]

I don't know what an "enthusiast club" is, but if it's anything like what I'm picturing, there's no surprise that you weren't finding many women there.

Again, your comments show that you don't really have much experience with dating...

You're married. Be thankful for that, and stop your complaining.

Why would any go hunting in a place where a woman showed up once in a couple months? I mean, if they were hunting for women.

 

[bronzeage]

holy crap.. this is all based on him not getting laid when he was younger?

wow...that's just fucked up

That is all it's ever based on.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Haven't men always tried to foist "the fat friend" off on their buddy??

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

holy crap.. this is all based on him not getting laid when he was younger?

Now you're making up claims that I never got laid? Seriously?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Haven't men always tried to foist "the fat friend" off on their buddy??

This is true. Badbabysitter is too wacked out on drugs to realize this.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I don't know what an "enthusiast club" is, but if it's anything like what I'm picturing, there's no surprise that you weren't finding many women there.

Edit: I sense that you're not getting the point here. I didn't go to enthusiast clubs except to prove to doubting thomases like yourself that there are no such thing as young women geeks. I sure as hell did not go there looking for a date.

Again, your comments show that you don't really have much experience with dating...

I have plenty of experience with dating. What you keep not understanding is that I didn't waste time trying to date women that did not exist.

I spent my time dating women that existed.

You're married. Be thankful for that, and stop your complaining.

As long as women complain, I will take that right to complain right back. I will take it by force if I have to.

 

[badbabysitter]

This is true. Badbabysitter is too wacked out on drugs to realize this.

so says the man who still hasn't backed up any of his claims

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

so says the man who still hasn't backed up any of his claims

So says the woman whose reading skills are shit.