Isn't it time men started rejecting Beta females?

[richard_daily]

It's the hypergamic bullshit. Women almost always demand far more of men than they are willing to give. With notable exceptions.

I had to wait over THIRTY YEARS to find a woman who was a notable exception. Thirty damned years. 15 of those years was putting up with one hypergamic hypocrite after another.

And I am not talking just hypergamic as in gold diggers. I am talking about women who are shrinking violets, who cannot be arsed to approach a man but demand that he approach her, women who demand special privileges (like chivalry) but never offer it in return, women who want a man to protect her but when the shit hits the fan she hides in the fucking corner while he risks his ass.

Worst of all? I'm absolutely sick tired of the women who call draft dodgers cowards while they themselves never served. These are the types of women I would send off to war, at gunpoint, if I could get a big enough mob to drag them out there. Hell, if there was no law, I'd chloroform these hypocrites and shanghai their asses to Afghanistan.


You know what I want? I want ONE SET OF RULES FOR EVERYONE. Two genders, one set of rules. I'll do anything to see that happen.

A woman who demands more than she gives is an issue with an individual, not with women.

You're married, and I'm assuming happy... Live your life, and stop complaining about women. Everyone has gotten burned at one point or another, that doesn't mean that the entire opposite sex is evil or flawed...

In this case, your perception is definitely skewed, and you should work on figuring out why, and fix it... You'll be a better man for it.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

A woman who demands more than she gives is an issue with an individual, not with women.

You're married, and I'm assuming happy... Live your life, and stop complaining about women. Everyone has gotten burned at one point or another, that doesn't mean that the entire opposite sex is evil or flawed...

In this case, your perception is definitely skewed, and you should work on figuring out why, and fix it... You'll be a better man for it.

Dude, I got an adopted son that's close to old enough to walk.

I worry about the world he's going to go into.

Society is going to treat him a whole hell of a lot harsher than it will his 3 sisters who came before him.

 

[richard_daily]

Dude, I got an adopted son that's close to old enough to walk.

I worry about the world he's going to go into.

Society is going to treat him a whole hell of a lot harsher than it will his 3 sisters who came before him.

Your view of the world in regards to women isn't based on reality.

I just call it like I see it.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Your view of the world in regards to women isn't based on reality.

I just call it like I see it.

Really? You mean when my son turns 18 he won't be required to register for Selective Service? You mean that when he grows up he won't have to fight for alpha male status to get a woman? You mean you yourself don't make fun of beta males? You mean to tell me you've EVER made fun of beta females?

Really?

 

[richard_daily]

Really? You mean when my son turns 18 he won't be required to register for Selective Service? You mean that when he grows up he won't have to fight for alpha male status to get a woman? You mean you yourself don't make fun of beta males? You mean to tell me you've EVER made fun of beta females?

Really?

I don't believe in the concept of alpha and beta males... I make fun of closeted homosexuals who say disparaging remarks about gays.

I know plenty of women who like submissive men. If your son gets of age and is looking for older women to dominate him, let me know and I can probably hook him up.

And registering for selective service shouldn't be confined to men.. .it should be required of women as well. That said, it's been a while since we had a draft.

 

[doctor_insanus]

I don't really care what letter of the Greek alphabet a woman's personality matches. I've fallen for aggressive women, and have had absolutely fantastic relationships with more submissive women. They're both great, in their way.

Likewise, if a woman is so hung up on a particular kind of guy that she can't appreciate what I have to offer... screw her. Been there before, too.

 

[Frizzle_Fry]

Dude, I got an adopted son that's close to old enough to walk.

I worry about the world he's going to go into.

Society is going to treat him a whole hell of a lot harsher than it will his 3 sisters who came before him.

Fuck that dude, if your son really is an alpha then he wont give a fuck how hard life is, he will man up and handle his shit because that is what an alpha dose.

I will tell you what an alpha dose not do, sit around and bitch about how hard they have it or how unfair things are, true story.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

I could care less about the hierarchy of social standing. All I care about is can she suck good dick.

 

[lustatopia]

Give women a taste of their own medicine.

Be an alpha female or get your shit sewn up!

Life must seriously suck as an omega male, eh, moron?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I don't believe in the concept of alpha and beta males...

Should I requote for you the comment you made about beta males and not getting laid?

I know plenty of women who like submissive men. If your son gets of age and is looking for older women to dominate him, let me know and I can probably hook him up.

I don't want him having to wait until he's 35 just to find a woman who's not hypergamic.

I'll tell both you and Frizzle Fry something, not that this ever seems to sink in with anyone: some of us out there actually know and played and won the alpha male game. But when you turn 30 and you realize that women only like you because you can protect or provide for them, you realize that this is not anything resembling love.

Alpha males are popular with women because for most women, that thing they call "love" is in fact a transaction. As soon as he loses that status, she's gone. Look up "alpha male" and "ascendant male".

Guys need to understand this, especially that last part, because otherwise they will be run over by it. You may be alpha today, but an ascendant will take her from you tomorrow when you're down. If you doubt me on this, google "paternity fraud" for an eye-opener.

And registering for selective service shouldn't be confined to men.. .it should be required of women as well. That said, it's been a while since we had a draft.

It shouldn't be for anyone at all, men or women. But I did post to you a link to a thread full of Literotica women who said men who oppose the draft are pussies. The names are there and cannot be denied.

 

[richard_daily]

Should I requote for you the comment you made about beta males and not getting laid?

And it would be a joke. The entire concept of "alphas" and "betas" was made up by guys who write infomercials. If you buy into it, more power to you, but I've never met one of these supposed "alpha males".

I don't want him having to wait until he's 35 just to find a woman who's not hypergamic.

Just out of curiosity...

How did you try to find women from 18-35?

I'll tell both you and Frizzle Fry something, not that this ever seems to sink in with anyone: some of us out there actually know and played and won the alpha male game. But when you turn 30 and you realize that women only like you because you can protect or provide for them, you realize that this is not anything resembling love.

Here's something that might not sink in... There's no such thing as an alpha male.

Alpha males are popular with women because for most women, that thing they call "love" is in fact a transaction. As soon as he loses that status, she's gone. Look up "alpha male" and "ascendant male".

Maybe you were playing a game of artificiality then. You can hardly blame women for that.

Guys need to understand this, especially that last part, because otherwise they will be run over by it. You may be alpha today, but an ascendant will take her from you tomorrow when you're down. If you doubt me on this, google "paternity fraud" for an eye-opener.

I'm not saying this as bragging... but I'm pretty sure I've dated a lot more than you. I never treated a woman as having a price tag, and I gladly have paid for meals and dates out without expecting anything in return. I have also gotten taken out by women at their expense as well.

My point is, if you "expect" something from your supposed "investment" you are treating human interaction like a transaction, and you reap what you sew.

You seem to have attracted women that you consider "gold diggers". There is a reason for that. It's your attitude towards women.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

And it would be a joke. The entire concept of "alphas" and "betas" was made up by guys who write infomercials. If you buy into it, more power to you, but I've never met one of these supposed "alpha males".

You're kidding me, right?

Just out of curiosity...

How did you try to find women from 18-35?

Simple. I observed the men that women dated, not the ones they said they were attracted to.

Here's something that might not sink in... There's no such thing as an alpha male.

Says who? The concept of alpha males is well known in the scientific field.

Maybe you were playing a game of artificiality then. You can hardly blame women for that.

In those age groups you either play or you stay home alone. You have a better chance of being killed by Al Qaeda than finding a woman under 35 who doesn't approach love from a transactional point of view.

That's why women under 35 are so inferior. Absolutely in no way better than men of the same age group. (They're just more arrogant.)

I'm not saying this as bragging... but I'm pretty sure I've dated a lot more than you. I never treated a woman as having a price tag, and I gladly have paid for meals and dates out without expecting anything in return. I have also gotten taken out by women at their expense as well.

I'm sure you believe you've dated more women than I have. And if I posted up pictures to show you otherwise, then I'm also sure you would say that was my problem right there, that I couldn't keep a long term relationship.

Dude, I know the power of the dark side of the spin around here.

My point is, if you "expect" something from your supposed "investment" you are treating human interaction like a transaction, and you reap what you sew.

No, I expect a woman to treat a man with the same courtesy she expects of him. You're not going to get that out of a sub-30something woman.

BTW, dude, you accused me of threatening people on here. I don't threaten anyone who hasn't threatened me first. You trolls on here got this thing going where you start shit with people and then scream "HE STARTED IT!!" when you get punched back. WTF man.

 

[renard_ruse]

I don't believe in the concept of alpha and beta males... I make fun of closeted homosexuals who say disparaging remarks about gays.

I'm just the opposite, if they stay in the closet I have no problem with their personal lifestyle choices.

 

[lustatopia]

God Damn, this is a great thread.

Two stupid bitches, more omega than beta are going dickhead to dickhead in the circle jerk of the century. May the best two fuckwads lose! If that's mathematically possible. (and it is if you divide by the square root of negative one. UrsulaX my love, why have you forsaken me!)

This is gonna to be fun. Think of old Lusty as your ringside sportcaster.

Pass the popcorn, please.

 

[renard_ruse]

I'm willing to open the door if I don't have to endure bleeding, cysts, childbirth and the like. I'm totally willing to give up social power and buy the godd*mn food if I'm gonna get paid 1/3 more for doing just as half-assed a job...

Nobody has to "endure" childbirth today. There is a little thing called contraception, not to mention abortion if someone is too damn lazy or stupid to use contraception (not that I think abortion is right, but its legal so lets not get into that here).

Yet, the vast majority of women WANT to have a child at least once and in many cases WANT to have more than one. A man will never, ever, no matter how much he might want to, be able to have the life experience of pregnancy and bearing a child. So, your argument here is basically proof that men have less rights or freedoms than women, rather than women being victimized somehow.

As for the second sentence above, that is simply stupid. Unless you've never heard of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and been asleep for the last fortyfive years that is.

 

[renard_ruse]

God Damn, this is a great thread.

Two stupid bitches, more omega than beta are going dickhead to dickhead in the circle jerk of the century. May the best two fuckwads lose! If that's mathematically possible. (and it is if you divide by the square root of negative one. UrsulaX my love, why have you forsaken me!)

This is gonna to be fun. Think of old Lusty as your ringside sportcaster.

Pass the popcorn, please.

So you're Rory's Australian alt? Not to mention a sodomite rapist. Nice combination there homey.

 

[renard_ruse]

Wait, are you by chance Cubbies?

 

[whome1952]

Am I the only one that thinks it is part of the Alpha role (male or female) to protect the pack? After all that is where the term originated in the study of pack behavor. Also, if everyone is alpha male and females doesn't that just make them people?

What you are saying is that everyone should be alphas which in essence breaks up the pack into individual units working for their own ends.

Now my understanding of what you are trying to say may be wrong but that is what I am getting from your posts.

As for threatening someone online, please grow up. I know this is a site that specializes in fantasy but really.....

 

[Frizzle_Fry]

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I'll tell both you and Frizzle Fry something, not that this ever seems to sink in with anyone: some of us out there actually know and played and won the alpha male game. But when you turn 30 and you realize that women only like you because you can protect or provide for them, you realize that this is not anything resembling love.

Alpha males are popular with women because for most women, that thing they call "love" is in fact a transaction. As soon as he loses that status, she's gone. Look up "alpha male" and "ascendant male".

Guys need to understand this, especially that last part, because otherwise they will be run over by it. You may be alpha today, but an ascendant will take her from you tomorrow when you're down. If you doubt me on this, google "paternity fraud" for an eye-opener.

LOL I'm 27 and I realized women are attracted to men who can protect/provide for them when I was 14. Why else would jocks/soldiers/firefighters/rich guys get all the hot bitches?

I understand the transaction and I accept it. Actually she makes almost as much money as I do so she doesn't "need" me for anything.

She want's someone else? She can haul ass, better she roll than make my life miserable because she resents me. But I really don't think about it, life is entirely too good.

 

[eyer]

... (not that I think abortion is right, but its legal so lets not get into that here).

Reminds me of the equally comparable:

...not that I think slavery is right, but it's legal so lets not get into that here.

Yeah, boyhowdy...

...them were the days!

 

[richard_daily]

You're kidding me, right?

nope.

Simple. I observed the men that women dated, not the ones they said they were attracted to.

So you "observed" the women that men dated, and that's how you dated? that sounds pretty ridiculously detached, and I can understand why you had problems... Perhaps you should figure out why you didn't search out women that you had common interests in, could have a good time around, and have meaningful conversations with... as an example.

Says who? The concept of alpha males is well known in the scientific field.

Are you claiming that it's settled science? Because I think you know better.

In those age groups you either play or you stay home alone. You have a better chance of being killed by Al Qaeda than finding a woman under 35 who doesn't approach love from a transactional point of view.

This goes back to your personal approach at finding women to date, which by your own words, shows that your approach was flawed to it's core.

That's why women under 35 are so inferior. Absolutely in no way better than men of the same age group. (They're just more arrogant.)

Again, this is your perception based on the flawed way that you went about looking for dates.

I'm sure you believe you've dated more women than I have. And if I posted up pictures to show you otherwise, then I'm also sure you would say that was my problem right there, that I couldn't keep a long term relationship.

Not all people need or want a long-term relationship... and posting pictures does nothing. I wasn't saying it to brag, you just come off as someone who is extremely inexperienced with women.

You can say otherwise, but your words tell a different story.

No, I expect a woman to treat a man with the same courtesy she expects of him. You're not going to get that out of a sub-30something woman.

Then how have I gotten it in almost every single woman under 30 that I've dated?

 

[renard_ruse]

Am I the only one that thinks it is part of the Alpha role (male or female) to protect the pack? After all that is where the term originated in the study of pack behavor. Also, if everyone is alpha male and females doesn't that just make them people?

What you are saying is that everyone should be alphas which in essence breaks up the pack into individual units working for their own ends.

Now my understanding of what you are trying to say may be wrong but that is what I am getting from your posts.

As for threatening someone online, please grow up. I know this is a site that specializes in fantasy but really.....

I actually agree with Dick Dailey, there's no such thing as Alpha and Beta humans. Alpha Beta was a grocery store chain when I was a kid, but that's about it.

Girls don't care about that stuff. Some of them want a dude with money, some of them want a "bad boy" because they want to live vicariously through him, and some of them want a pussy whipped doormat they can boss around. That's about it. They don't care about this Alpha garbage or even know what its supposed to mean.

 

[richard_daily]

I actually agree with Dick Dailey, there's no such thing as Alpha and Beta humans. Alpha Beta was a grocery store chain when I was a kid, but that's about it.

Girls don't care about that stuff. Some of them care about money, some of them care about a "bad boy" because they want to live vicariously through him, and some of them want a pussy whipped doormat they can boss around. They don't care about this Alpha garbage or even know what that is supposed to mean.

"alpha male" is a concept that facilitates the sales of axe body spray... but doesn't really have much basis in reality.

 

[Whisperly]

What is an alpha female?

What kinda of traits would one have?

What is a beta female or male?

 

[bronzeage]

What is an alpha female?

What kinda of traits would one have?

What is a beta female or male?

A beta male is a man who makes posts about alphas and betas. Real alphas aren't concerned.

A beta female is any woman who laughs at a beta male. Alpha females would laugh at him, too but they never notice him.

A beta male believes there are rules of human attraction and all the rules are either stacked against him(women want men with money) or women are too stupid to understand them(women want bad boys who treat them mean).