Amicus is a Philogynist! Are you? (Men only)

[girlsmiley]

Dear she is not agreeing or disagreeing about amicus...she is simply pointing to a fact and agreeing with that.

And yes the male pretty quota has been upped for broadcasters. The game from my view started in the 80's. It is not even near even. Women and men in this field are trying to make a living, I find no fault in that. If you want to get paid, you play. I do find fault in broadcasting media in general. It is so much less impartial than it use to be. Print and internet media the same. They run with stories that aren't verified, and retractions come in minutes instead of hours or days. All I know, even 20 years ago some of the stories that run would have resulted in a lawsuit and or firing.

It was not his problem with some female broadcasters that set alarm bells ringing.


"Well, for example, girlsmiley, the thoughts of an Islamic woman in an arranged marriage to a man she may or may not have any attraction to?

Also...my very unscientific survey over the years that determined a girl/woman, slept with about a dozen different men before she married."



Does anyone know any Islamic women on here that would like to tell amicus how they felt about their arranged marriage?

And his survey that determined:

a girl/woman sleeps with a dozen different men before she marries

Maybe the girls thick enough to be part of his survey...

 

[stephen55]

But when some blond bimbo with a thigh high skirt and cleavage that was once considered obscene attempts to deliver straight news, all I can do is giggle.

And those pathetic empathetic eye lifts and mouth moues and tone drops in voice to indicate sorrow at a sad News item, anger, outrage and self righteous indignation at those terrible oil companies or mean old stock brokers, breaks me up into laughter.

RE: this section of his post:

I have seen waaaaay too many threads on this board concerning who is the most fuckable female newscaster, to think this remark is NOT without merit.

This is a porn board. I think that explains why there have been "waaaaay too many threads on this board concerning who is the most fuckable female newscaster".

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWLG4-HZaaMQTyBy3SgxRqAgUou5yyCcDpBoc3yzQR7MYPLukU

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5xd48yB7p1qz7ey0.jpg

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTzUluWA9D4cXDU7xtmLPQCogM-l5LQjRkicF7DQ_mTIKTF0uN1

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2007-10-25-katie_couric.jpg

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfNFgeXh57B-hOVKXQe8P2OWsYXx4mpZ8UI3ttkqO3GtHQFfauBg

It certainly isn't the thigh high skirts and the obscene cleavage.
That's just Ami bemoaning the fact that he can't get a job as a newscaster.

http://tophatal.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/the-women-of-naked-news-italy.jpg
Unless you call Naked News a real news outlet.
No, Ami, please don't apply at Naked News. Please...

 

[Bidin~Time]

^^ and the same applies to men
It doesn't really matter how many threads you've seen
I think amicus is a disgusting, woman-hating pig
you may or may not agree and that's fine

I was going to respond to this

It was not his problem with some female broadcasters that set alarm bells ringing.


"Well, for example, girlsmiley, the thoughts of an Islamic woman in an arranged marriage to a man she may or may not have any attraction to?

Also...my very unscientific survey over the years that determined a girl/woman, slept with about a dozen different men before she married."



Does anyone know any Islamic women on here that would like to tell amicus how they felt about their arranged marriage?

And his survey that determined:

a girl/woman sleeps with a dozen different men before she marries

Maybe the girls thick enough to be part of his survey...

Then, I read this.

This is a porn board. I think that explains why there have been "waaaaay too many threads on this board concerning who is the most fuckable female newscaster".

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWLG4-HZaaMQTyBy3SgxRqAgUou5yyCcDpBoc3yzQR7MYPLukU

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5xd48yB7p1qz7ey0.jpg

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTzUluWA9D4cXDU7xtmLPQCogM-l5LQjRkicF7DQ_mTIKTF0uN1

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2007-10-25-katie_couric.jpg

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfNFgeXh57B-hOVKXQe8P2OWsYXx4mpZ8UI3ttkqO3GtHQFfauBg

It certainly isn't the thigh high skirts and the obscene cleavage.
That's just Ami bemoaning the fact that he can't get a job as a newscaster.

http://tophatal.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/the-women-of-naked-news-italy.jpg
Unless you call Naked News a real news outlet.
No, Ami, please don't apply at Naked News. Please...

Gee it's a porn board? REALLY???

How, after all these years, did I miss that little memo?

 

[amicus]

Jenny Kissed Me

Jenny kissed me when we met,
Jumping from the chair she sat in;
Time, you thief, who love to get
Sweets into your list, put that in!
Say I'm weary, say I'm sad,
Say that health and wealth have missed me,
Say I'm growing old, but add,
Jenny kissed me.

I have read that poem a thousand times and I still get a chill up and down my spine every time.

There are acres amd acres of library shelves filled with books of poems in an eternal tribute and reverence for women, for feminity, that essential ineffable mystique of the female that so entrances the male of the species.

It is that which I adore and cherish. Not the leather clad little person in a man's suit smoking a cigar and pretending to be at home in a man's world.

The blind, headlong rush into equality in the 20th century has virtually destroyed the essential nature of the female that engendered the admiration and respect all of mankind has for a 'real' woman.

I do, purposefully, and incessantly, chide our modern day feminists who leave their children, if they dare to have any, in the hands of others to raise, change partners as often as they change tampons; who have, in their own fabricated and selfish pursuit of equality, destroyed that which was once beautiful and desireable into something almost beyond description, a harridan harpy of the worst kind.



George Gordon Byron, Lord Byron. 1788–1824

She walks in Beauty

SHE walks in beauty, like the night

Of cloudless climes and starry skies;
And all that 's best of dark and bright
Meet in her aspect and her eyes:
Thus mellow'd to that tender light
Which heaven to gaudy day denies.
One shade the more, one ray the less,
Had half impair'd the nameless grace
Which waves in every raven tress,
Or softly lightens o'er her face;
Where thoughts serenely sweet express
How pure, how dear their dwelling-place.
And on that cheek, and o'er that brow,
So soft, so calm, yet eloquent,

The smiles that win, the tints that glow,
But tell of days in goodness spent,
A mind at peace with all below,
A heart whose love is innocent!

~~~

I fear we have lost much more than we have gained by lowering women into equality with men.

What say ye?

Amicus...the lover of women...

 

[cookiejar]

Funny thing ... I've mentioned a few times this is a porn board. I was promptly told it is an ADULT board! Whatever makes you feel better I guess.

 

[NewEnglandGirl]

The blind, headlong rush into equality in the 20th century has virtually destroyed the essential nature of the female that engendered the admiration and respect all of mankind has for a 'real' woman.

I do, purposefully, and incessantly, chide our modern day feminists who leave their children, if they dare to have any, in the hands of others to raise, change partners as often as they change tampons; who have, in their own fabricated and selfish pursuit of equality, destroyed that which was once beautiful and desireable into something almost beyond description, a harridan harpy of the worst kind.

I fear we have lost much more than we have gained by lowering women into equality with men.

What say ye?

Amicus...the lover of women...

I say that you live in an artificial world of blacks and whites, leaving no room for grays. ALL feminists leave their children for others to raise and change their partners as often as they change their tampons? Really? Oh, please, you have got to be kidding. Or delusional. So, you would prefer we go back to the days when a woman's position in the workplace was expendable because she was taking a man's job away from him, and if she had a family to raise without a husband, tough crap? Even if she was husband-less due to being widowed or escaping an abusive bastard? You would prefer to go back to the days in which a man who had multiple partners was "randy" but a woman who was not a virgin upon marriage was a slut? The days in which abortions were performed furtively, and at great risk to the woman, while the man was perfectly safe? Shall I continue?

Just because you personally do not like women in slacks or in the boardroom or sexually experienced does not mean that the hard earned winnings of feminism are to be derided.

 

[girlsmiley]

This is my favourite poem
and I do it justice by posting it properly




She Walks in Beauty
by George Gordon Byron


I.

She walks in beauty, like the night
Of cloudless climes and starry skies;
And all that's best of dark and bright
Meet in her aspect and her eyes:
Thus mellowed to that tender light
Which heaven to gaudy day denies.

II.

One shade the more, one ray the less,
Had half impaired the nameless grace
Which waves in every raven tress,
Or softly lightens o'er her face;
Where thoughts serenely sweet express
How pure, how dear their dwelling place.

III.

And on that cheek, and o'er that brow,
So soft, so calm, yet eloquent,
The smiles that win, the tints that glow,
But tell of days in goodness spent,
A mind at peace with all below,
A heart whose love is innocent!

 

[amicus]

NewEnglandGirl, I did not type ALL into my thesis, you did, to bolster your own argument.

As to a black and white world, there is but one reality, that which is, and it is chock full of absolutes, no greys, no middle ground, you either live or die, there is no in between and you know it.

I write fictional stories, so by definition, I am a dreamer, a visionary; in my mind I live in an ideal world, one that could and ought to be if only we could achieve it.

There has never been such a world as I envision, perhaps, if we define our terms, establish our values and pursue them with integrity, we may one day approach such a world.

When young people enter into a contract of marriage, a joining of two family lines with fervent hopes for the future, I wish to write about just how that might be possible and the values, ethics and morals that are necessary to achieve happiness and joy.

I do so from a non theological point of view, no God directing how men and women should live together, but a rational, objective, real and natural observation of the innate human desire to procreate and find joy in life.

Terrible things happen in life and I can not change that. What I can do is to attempt to illustrate that man can overcome the tragedies and disasters, natural and man made, and still find a reason to live with honor and purpose.

I am saddened that you are so bitter about life and see only the darkness and not the joy.

A woman's smile can brighten the darkest day.

amicus

 

[amicus]

girlsmiley, pciky, picky, picky...ain't it serendipitous that I happened to choose your favorite poem? Or maybe your heart is in the right place but you just don't know it.

The Poem reflects, in a lovely manner, that of which I speak, which is why I copied and pasted it. Not that I expect an acknowledgement that the poem enhanced my theme of feminine beauty and grace, but it does and perhaps one or two will understand.

ami

 

[NewEnglandGirl]

I feel like we are running down two separate train tracks here, having two different conversations.

You said:

I do, purposefully, and incessantly, chide our modern day feminists who leave their children, if they dare to have any, in the hands of others to raise, change partners as often as they change tampons;

So, you purposely and incessantly chide feminists, by your own admission, and suggest that it leads to the worst of parenting, not to mention that faithfulness of rabbits. To me, that read as if you saw feminism automatically leading to the other conditions. I think other women here saw it much the same way.

At no point did you differentiate between how you saw reality and fiction in your posts. Had you done so, I would have reacted quite differently. It was stated more as an absolute.

I'd also love to know where you got the idea that I am bitter about life from my post. You could not be farther off base.

 

[girlsmiley]

girlsmiley, pciky, picky, picky...ain't it serendipitous that I happened to choose your favorite poem? Or maybe your heart is in the right place but you just don't know it.

The Poem reflects, in a lovely manner, that of which I speak, which is why I copied and pasted it. Not that I expect an acknowledgement that the poem enhanced my theme of feminine beauty and grace, but it does and perhaps one or two will understand.

ami[/QUOTE





No, you posted a poem.
A poem that obviously doesn't fit you at all.


Actions speak louder than words, ami

And are you trying to make the poem seem insignificant by just plastering it on here, willy nilly?
Why? Tsk, tsk.
I also notice that you have trouble quoting other people's posts. "Accidentally on purpose"

Here's a spoon full of sugar...

girlsmiley

 

[Loring2]

Self (Respect?)

It's really heartwarming to see so many women defendng their rights to be assholes. By golly if men can be jerks then so can women, after all, we are all equal; ... aren't we? Isn't that in the constitution? .... well somebody answer me... come on now.

Oh you mean that 'equality' is a biblical thing and it isn't a matter of being equal to one onother, it's a matter of being equal in the eyes of God.

Who or what is this God thing? He's not real is he? OK ... I never thought men and women were equal anyway ... 'because some people are more equal than others ... everybody knows that ... well almost everybody.

 

[stephen55]

There are acres amd acres of library shelves filled with books of poems in an eternal tribute and reverence for women, for feminity, that essential ineffable mystique of the female that so entrances the male of the species.

It is that which I adore and cherish. Not the leather clad little person in a man's suit smoking a cigar and pretending to be at home in a man's world.

The blind, headlong rush into equality in the 20th century has virtually destroyed the essential nature of the female that engendered the admiration and respect all of mankind has for a 'real' woman.

I do, purposefully, and incessantly, chide our modern day feminists who leave their children, if they dare to have any, in the hands of others to raise, change partners as often as they change tampons; who have, in their own fabricated and selfish pursuit of equality, destroyed that which was once beautiful and desireable into something almost beyond description, a harridan harpy of the worst kind.

Amicus...the lover of women...

This is perhaps, the gist of Ami's claim to be a philogynist.

He's in love with his idea of what women should be.
He can't stand women who insist on being themselves.
He obviously doesn't even recognize that he hasn't got a clue about the reality of the situation.

If you're wondering how someone could claim to love women while also calling them "harridan harpy(s) of the worst kind", so am I.

The heroine of Ami's heroine (Dagny Taggart in Atlas Shrugged); was she a loving, nurturing stay at home mom, June Cleaver in her apron, vacuuming the house? Or was she a money grubbing harpy, a woman trying to run a railroad in a man's world, consumed by her fabricated and selfish pursuit of equality?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/B_juneboys01.JPG

Hey Ami!!

Does this look like Dagny Taggart to you?

...moron...

 

[amicus]

Tsk, tsk? Egads, how typically...ahm...but no matter, your hissy fit was expected and fitting.

In countries ruled by Islam, women have few rights; in Communist China, a woman is forbidden to bear more than one child. In Japan, a hefty percentage of women have no children and state they 'hate' sex.

In combination, those things might, in the eyes of some, indicate a world gone terribly wrong.

You choose not to address the problem? Fine, be that way, see if I care.

ami

 

[girlsmiley]

Tsk, tsk? Egads, how typically...ahm...but no matter, your hissy fit was expected and fitting.

/quote]


you think disagreeing female=hissy fit?

huh.

colour me surprised

girlsmiley

 

[Galactic_Perv]

I see nothing wrong with beating off while watching the news

 

[amicus]

He's in love with his idea of what women should be.
He can't stand women who insist on being themselves.
He obviously doesn't even recognize that he hasn't got a clue about the reality of the situation.

~~~

There is a 'reality' in your world view? When every Post in opposition to mine you claim, like most, that there is no absolute reality?

go figure...

There are a couple of philosophies that dabble in, 'becoming', or something like that, as I vaguely recall...'women being themselves...' I wonder what that means?

It is the nature of women to be more physically sensitive than men, their actual body chemistry lends a lot to that argument, with the onset of Menses, everything changes.

Life for a female, from day one, begins preparing her for her natural role in the scheme of things, that of being a mother and a nurturer. Don't shoot the messenger, hell, I didn't make things the way they are, but I am honest enough to speak of them.

Women naturally 'become' what they ultimately are, supporters of their mates and mother to the child. Both of which require, by definition, a submersion of self into the role of wife and mother, adapting the best interests of her husband and her children as hers.

It is a very special thing to become a wife and a mother and a good one at that, which may be why it is so very rare to witness.

Preach all the equality you wish, but outside the roles of wife and mother, the place for females in reality, is tenuous at best and subject to much disagreement.

Perhaps, as I have written elsewhere, it will be a science fiction androgynous future with absolute equality and offspring are petri dish raised in a laboratory and men and women go side by side with robots tending the offspring.

Why the fuck would one even entertain such a dystopian concept?

The Battle of the Sexes ain't a new stage play, folks, it has been around a while, a long, long while, as this very special species attempt to adapt and evolve into the future.

Maybe y'all are right, traditional and conventional concepts about sex, marriage, relationships are all obsolete and a brave new world awaits those who search for that which they really are...

but...just what are you without children, family and a future?

Get back to me on that, eh?

ami

 

[NewEnglandGirl]

Holy crow. I feel like I am reading an article from a 1950's magazine.

"A submersion of self into the role of wife and mother"?

I think I finally get it. You long for the life our parents had. Or didn't have. Pretty Stepford type wives in dresses spending their entire days cleaning the house until you could eat off the floor and then making meals to satisfy their husbands, home from a trying day at work. Women who are discouraged from daring to have opinions of their own, ambitions of their own.

Why can't a woman raise a family and a business, at the same time? I did it, and know plenty of other women who did. With healthy, well adjusted kids who didn't grow up to see their mothers, or women in general, as doormats.

To see only the extremes as possibilities, as you seem to do... a Stepford wife or "a science fiction androgynous future"... Why in the world do you feel that a woman cannot be both successful and alluring? Ambitious, sexual and a good parent and role model?

 

[Galactic_Perv]

Holy crow. I feel like I am reading an article from a 1950's magazine.

"A submersion of self into the role of wife and mother"?

I think I finally get it. You long for the life our parents had. Or didn't have. Pretty Stepford type wives in dresses spending their entire days cleaning the house until you could eat off the floor and then making meals to satisfy their husbands, home from a trying day at work. Women who are discouraged from daring to have opinions of their own, ambitions of their own.

Why can't a woman raise a family and a business, at the same time? I did it, and know plenty of other women who did. With healthy, well adjusted kids who didn't grow up to see their mothers, or women in general, as doormats.

To see only the extremes as possibilities, as you seem to do... a Stepford wife or "a science fiction androgynous future"... Why in the world do you feel that a woman cannot be both successful and alluring? Ambitious, sexual and a good parent and role model?

You forgot the part about plenty of blowjobs

 

[amicus]

I suggest Pygmalian was written long ago and then there is this: chuckles...:

Well after all, Pickering, I'm an ordinary man,
Who desires nothing more than an ordinary chance,
to live exactly as he likes, and do precisely what he wants...
An average man am I, of no eccentric whim,
Who likes to live his life, free of strife,
doing whatever he thinks is best, for him,
Well... just an ordinary man...
BUT, Let a woman in your life and your serenity is through,
she'll redecorate your home, from the cellar to the dome,
and then go on to the enthralling fun of overhauling you...
Let a woman in your life, and you're up against a wall,
make a plan and you will find,
that she has something else in mind,
and so rather than do either you do something else
that neither likes at all You want to talk of Keats and Milton,
she only wants to talk of love,
You go to see a play or ballet, and spend it searching
for her glove, Let a woman in your life
and you invite eternal strife,
Let them buy their wedding bands for those anxious little hands...
I'd be equally as willing for a dentist to be drilling
than to ever let a woman in my life, I'm a very gentle man,
even tempered and good natured
who you never hear complain,
Who has the milk of human kindness
by the quart in every vein,
A patient man am I, down to my fingertips,
the sort who never could, ever would,
let an insulting remark escape his lips
Very gentle man...
But, Let a woman in your life,
and patience hasn't got a chance,
she will beg you for advice, your reply will be concise,
and she will listen very nicely, and then go out
and do exactly what she wants!!!
You are a man of grace and polish,
who never spoke above a hush,
all at once you're using language that would make
a sailor blush, Let a woman in your life,
and you're plunging in a knife,
Let the others of my sex, tie the knot around their necks,
I prefer a new edition of the Spanish Inquisition
than to ever let a woman in my life I'm a quiet living man,
who prefers to spend the evening in the silence of his room,
who likes an atmosphere as restful as
an undiscovered tomb,
A pensive man am I, of philosophical joys,
who likes to meditate, contemplate,
far for humanities mad inhuman noise,
Quiet living man....
But, let a woman in your life, and your sabbatical is through,
in a line that never ends comes an army of her friends,
come to jabber and to chatter
and to tell her what the matter is with YOU!,
she'll have a booming boisterous family,
who will descend on you en mass,
she'll have a large wagnarian mother,
with a voice that shatters glass,
Let a woman in your life,
Let a woman in your life,
Let a woman in your life I shall never let a woman in my life.

So, no, lamebrain, it is not circa 1950, maybe 1950 BC, women ain't changed much over time, eh?



der always amicable amicussableness

 

[NewEnglandGirl]

I suggest Pygmalian was written long ago and then there is this: chuckles...:



So, no, lamebrain, it is not circa 1950, maybe 1950 BC, women ain't changed much over time, eh?



der always amicable amicussableness

I learned years ago that those who are utterly unable to address a post with logic or intelligence here tend to resort to insults. You, sir, fall into that category. I'm not convinced you even bothered to read past the first line. It comes as no surprise. Nor does the fact that you completely miss the point that My Fair Lady was a comedy, a farce, making fun of Professor Higgins.

I'm done with you.

 

[amicus]

I'm done with you.

As well you should be, my dear, you are so utterly and deliciously female and you have been completely mastered thus far, thus your only recourse is to stomp off in a huff, claiming all the while to be the victor.

sourpuss...

ami

 

[amicus]

Holy crow. I feel like I am reading an article from a 1950's magazine.

"A submersion of self into the role of wife and mother"?

I think I finally get it. You long for the life our parents had. Or didn't have. Pretty Stepford type wives in dresses spending their entire days cleaning the house until you could eat off the floor and then making meals to satisfy their husbands, home from a trying day at work. Women who are discouraged from daring to have opinions of their own, ambitions of their own.

Why can't a woman raise a family and a business, at the same time? I did it, and know plenty of other women who did. With healthy, well adjusted kids who didn't grow up to see their mothers, or women in general, as doormats.

To see only the extremes as possibilities, as you seem to do... a Stepford wife or "a science fiction androgynous future"... Why in the world do you feel that a woman cannot be both successful and alluring? Ambitious, sexual and a good parent and role model?[/QUOTE]

~~~

Holy Cow, another Party-line feminist claiming the best of both worlds. And..stereotypically and in vague generalities. Were it not for affirmative action programs, equal rights bullshit, daycare in the workplace, special medical insurance for boob replacement, et cetera...you best job opportunity would be the library or flippin' boigers...or nursing, always a good place for homeless women.

A little lesson in logic here...supposing, just for the sake of conversation, two fairly equally qualified people in a near identical environment seek advancement in their position. Got that? Now, let us say one has divided interests, as you claim, and the other does not and is fully committed to the job with no outside interruptions or concerns.

Who gets to the top first?

And why?

You cannot excell at both without sacrificing either one or both, simple matter of deduction.

Women who try both beccome second class workers and second class mothers and if you are not wise enough to research the effects of latch-key children on their lives, then look again.

Amicus Veritas

 

[eyer]

Can you have ovaries...

...and eat them, too?

 

[girlsmiley]

Amicus aka Mr. Collins,


``Her indifferent state of health unhappily prevents her being in town; and by that means, as I told Lady Catherine myself one day, has deprived the British court of its brightest ornament. Her ladyship seemed pleased with the idea, and you may imagine that I am happy on every occasion to offer those little delicate compliments which are always acceptable to ladies. I have more than once observed to Lady Catherine that her charming daughter seemed born to be a duchess, and that the most elevated rank, instead of giving her consequence, would be adorned by her. -- These are the kind of little things which please her ladyship, and it is a sort of attention which I conceive myself peculiarly bound to pay.''


``You judge very properly,'' said Mr. Bennet, ``and it is happy for you that you possess the talent of flattering with delicacy. May I ask whether these pleasing attentions proceed from the impulse of the moment, or are the result of previous study?''


``They arise chiefly from what is passing at the time, and though I sometimes amuse myself with suggesting and arranging such little elegant compliments as may be adapted to ordinary occasions, I always wish to give them as unstudied an air as possible.''


Mr. Bennet's expectations were fully answered. His cousin was as absurd as he had hoped, and he listened to him with the keenest enjoyment, maintaining at the same time the most resolute composure of countenance, and, except in an occasional glance at Elizabeth, requiring no partner in his pleasure.


By tea-time, however, the dose had been enough, and Mr. Bennet was glad to take his guest into the drawing-room again, and when tea was over, glad to invite him to read aloud to the ladies. Mr. Collins readily assented, and a book was produced; but on beholding it (for every thing announced it to be from a circulating library), he started back, and begging pardon, protested that he never read novels. -- Kitty stared at him, and Lydia exclaimed. -- Other books were produced, and after some deliberation he chose Fordyce's Sermons.