The looming race war.

[bellisarius]

I'm not going at this lightly or with any thought of looking forward to the possibility but the possibility does exist.

BLM and Antifa are communist organizations, they are unabashed by this fact. Within their organizations I'm sure they argue over Leninism vs Trotskyism vs Maoism but that's for them to argue about and I really don't care one way or the other. What they both, along with other such organizations, agree with is Lenin's realization that the "Proletariat" is never going to rise up. Their power comes from the "Serfs" of society.

Both organizations have as a goal the complete disruption of society. The creation of chaos to demonstrate the the existing structure of society has not the means to deal with lawlessness. And that means is a lot easier to achieve if you can place like minded people in places of local, or state, power. (Think Bloomberg financing local DA elections here.) The notion here is simple to understand, existing society must be destroyed so that the new "utopia" can be built.

Back to the 'serfs.' They must be manipulated to believe that there is an "oppressor" class and that they bear no responsibility for their lot in life. To right these wrongs they must rise up and overthrow the existing order. If you can infiltrate the schools, from primary education to the Univ., so much the better.

BLM has seized upon the black population as their vehicle to facilitate a 'serf' uprising. Antifa is more generalized regarding race but are more than willing to go along for the ride. To an extent, BLM being the more successful, they are making inroads. Beyond recruiting in their targeted demographics they have coerced various notable corporations and individuals to side with them. More than a few of these corporations and individuals are doing so out of defense as opposed to buying in to the whole mantra. "Don't molest me, I'm on your side." Kipling's Dane-Geld writ large.

My concern is that they become so successful that there is a general uprising and that will spell disaster. 13% of the population, or to be more precise that portion of the 13% along with their willing allies, are not going to do much beyond committing a form of suicide that will completely defeat any advances they are trying to make as well as create a backlash that will last for generations.

Will it happen? I hope to hell not, but the possibility exists none the less.

 

[pecksniff]

Both organizations have as a goal the complete disruption of society.

Neither BLM nor Antifa has any interest in that.

 

[pecksniff]

This is what BLM is interested in.

And here's the straight dope on Antifa.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Okay, which one of you knucklegoofs let Grandpa Ish in the Thanksgiving wine stash a day early?

Once he gets his drunk dander up about the Negroes supplanting the Whites, he'll never shut up!

 

[phrodeau]

The GOP has been creating more chaos and lawlessness than BLM and Antifa combined.

 

[jomar]

Thank you for your big sipper thoughts. This porn board community appreciates your diligence.

 

[pecksniff]

My concern is that they become so successful that there is a general uprising . . .

If that were possible, it would have happened long before now.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

The OP, Ishtard, has been predicting a civil war and race war for over a decade now and will always be wrong. Just like his idiot son was remarkably wrong about his stupid COVID predictions.

 

[icanhelp1]

I'm not going at this lightly or with any thought of looking forward to the possibility but the possibility does exist.

BLM and Antifa are communist organizations, they are unabashed by this fact. Within their organizations I'm sure they argue over Leninism vs Trotskyism vs Maoism but that's for them to argue about and I really don't care one way or the other. What they both, along with other such organizations, agree with is Lenin's realization that the "Proletariat" is never going to rise up. Their power comes from the "Serfs" of society.

Both organizations have as a goal the complete disruption of society. The creation of chaos to demonstrate the the existing structure of society has not the means to deal with lawlessness. And that means is a lot easier to achieve if you can place like minded people in places of local, or state, power. (Think Bloomberg financing local DA elections here.) The notion here is simple to understand, existing society must be destroyed so that the new "utopia" can be built.

Back to the 'serfs.' They must be manipulated to believe that there is an "oppressor" class and that they bear no responsibility for their lot in life. To right these wrongs they must rise up and overthrow the existing order. If you can infiltrate the schools, from primary education to the Univ., so much the better.

BLM has seized upon the black population as their vehicle to facilitate a 'serf' uprising. Antifa is more generalized regarding race but are more than willing to go along for the ride. To an extent, BLM being the more successful, they are making inroads. Beyond recruiting in their targeted demographics they have coerced various notable corporations and individuals to side with them. More than a few of these corporations and individuals are doing so out of defense as opposed to buying in to the whole mantra. "Don't molest me, I'm on your side." Kipling's Dane-Geld writ large.

My concern is that they become so successful that there is a general uprising and that will spell disaster. 13% of the population, or to be more precise that portion of the 13% along with their willing allies, are not going to do much beyond committing a form of suicide that will completely defeat any advances they are trying to make as well as create a backlash that will last for generations.

Will it happen? I hope to hell not, but the possibility exists none the less.

You would enjoy Bob Woodson's book * Red, White and Black; Rescuing American History from Revisionist and Race Hustlers *

 

[pecksniff]

You would enjoy Bob Woodson's book * Red, White and Black; Rescuing American History from Revisionist and Race Hustlers *

It's in the GOP where you'll find the race hustlers now.

 

[GeorgeSoros]

I'm not going at this lightly or with any thought of looking forward to the possibility but the possibility does exist.

BLM and Antifa are communist organizations,

BLM and Antifa aren’t even organizations, ya ignorant fuckwaffle.

 

[PaxNurgle]

The GOP has been creating more chaos and lawlessness than BLM and Antifa combined.

Well, the far extremes of the GOP certainly have, that's for sure. Keep in mind that most of the Republicans are not like the extremists who have taken over the party, or the blatant trolls that post on this forum. Most are moderate conservatives who are probably sick of what Trump and the far right have turned their party into- which is a sick joke, against common decency, democratic ideals, freedom (except for the right to bear arms of course) and even reasonable, civilized behavior.

Antifa/BLM- this is a bit more complicated. Most Black Lives Matter are NOT far-left marxists/communists. Many are not aligned on the political spectrum at all. They simply want to see social justice for people of color, and end social Injustice towards people of color. That should not really be that controversial unless of course, you wish to see people of color oppressed, brutalized, and disenfranchised- as many people on this forum obviously do (and again this is not the mainstream Republican party- just as communism and/or marxism are not the mainstream BLM movment.)

However, there is certainly a far left/radical fringe, represented by a few like former Black Panther and avowed anti-capitalist Angela Davis, who has tried to co-opt the Black Lives Matter movement into a far-left political movement, which it was never supposed to be about. This is as problematic as having sociopathic individuals like "Korneus Causa" taking over the Republican party. To retain focus and credibility, BLM needs to purge it's radical element and focus on their original cause, which was oppression and injustice, not overthrowing capitalism.

Antifa was originally about resisting fascism and anti-democratic ideals, but it got co-opted by far-left and often violent radicals to a much greater degree than BLM did. I want to support Antifa, as I abhor racism and fascism and support it's original cause. But unfortunately, I also abhor violent anarchy, needless destruction and overthrow of capitalism- so I cannot support them, and I think most people would agree.

 

[pecksniff]

BLM and Antifa aren’t even organizations, ya ignorant fuckwaffle.

BLM is at least enough of an organization to have a website. (Antifa is not.)

 

[pecksniff]

Antifa was originally about resisting fascism and anti-democratic ideals, but it got co-opted by far-left and often violent radicals to a much greater degree than BLM did.

In Europe, but not in the U.S.

 

[ishtat]

Fear.

Bellisarius' post is about fear, fear of the less privileged in society. The fear is of poor people, white and black who are demanding a better deal. Society - not just in the USA has become increasingly polarized in the last 50 years. It's nothing that a 15% wage rise and a million new jobs cannot help fix.

The demonization of left wing political leadership is foolish. If the people they purport to represent get a half decent economic/social deal, that tiny minority of leaders will disappear into their customary irrelevance. And exactly the same will happen to the right wing populist movement and their "leadership."

You have probably noticed that while Bellisarius has identified a problem, he has not demonstrated any solution. Conservative forces are allowing left of centre leaders to dictate the ideas debate because the conservatives have no policy agenda of their own at all.

Conservative politicians, traditionally, stole the best ideas of the opposition and implemented them as their own. Since Gingrich 25/30 years go first espoused the tactic of opposing everything whether good or bad the current polarization/impasse became inevitable.

 

[pecksniff]

Conservative forces are allowing left of centre leaders to dictate the ideas debate because the conservatives have no policy agenda of their own at all.

Yeah, I've noticed that. It was not always so -- in the Reagan years conservatism stood for some things, not only against things. Problem is, the things it stood for then, such as supply-side economics and "neo-federalist" decentralization, are now too thoroughly discredited to be taken seriously even on the right, and they've found nothing to replace those things.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

You would enjoy Bob Woodson's book * Red, White and Black; Rescuing American History from Revisionist and Race Hustlers *

Woodson is a giant, a great American.

 

[pecksniff]

Woodson is a giant, a great American.

Woodson:

In February 2020, Woodson launched the Center's 1776 Unites campaign, to counter The 1619 Project.

That ain't great-American material.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Drunken old fool says something retarded. Must be wednesday.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Drunken old fool says something retarded. Must be wednesday.

Someone must have cleaned up the spent brass at the range on him.....so he had nothing else to do,but write a fictional thread

 

[pecksniff]

We're not going to have a race war, because not nearly enough blacks or whites are interested in one. It really is that simple.

 

[bellisarius]

Bellisarius' post is about fear, fear of the less privileged in society. The fear is of poor people, white and black who are demanding a better deal. Society - not just in the USA has become increasingly polarized in the last 50 years. It's nothing that a 15% wage rise and a million new jobs cannot help fix.

The demonization of left wing political leadership is foolish. If the people they purport to represent get a half decent economic/social deal, that tiny minority of leaders will disappear into their customary irrelevance. And exactly the same will happen to the right wing populist movement and their "leadership."

You have probably noticed that while Bellisarius has identified a problem, he has not demonstrated any solution. Conservative forces are allowing left of centre leaders to dictate the ideas debate because the conservatives have no policy agenda of their own at all.

Conservative politicians, traditionally, stole the best ideas of the opposition and implemented them as their own. Since Gingrich 25/30 years go first espoused the tactic of opposing everything whether good or bad the current polarization/impasse became inevitable.

,
You're full of shit.

 

[pecksniff]

You're full of shit.

That would be you -- see posts #2, 3 and 21.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

,
You're full of shit.

He's dead right, Ish.

Wanna know why he's dead right?

because this is the exact way you and every other RW schmuck on here who fancies themselves would-be Amazing Kreskins who can see the future that no one else can responds when their bullshit card's been pulled and the light's been turned on to see the strings on your puppet shows.

every. time.

 

[rae121452]

we can only hope so. the sooner 'minorities' are in control, the better off we'll all be. white people fuck up everything they even breathe on (and i'm white, so i know).