People have weird morals

[JaxRhapsody]

I once encountered a troll who shamed fellow erotica writers for featuring mother-son incest and dirty tail tricks in their fiction. The lead characters were winged gargoyles from a certain cartoon. His fanfics for the same series featured a lead character named Otto Fellatio who was sexually deprived.

I'm curious to how that was incest, when none of Goliaths clan were even related.

 

[AchtungNight]

I'm curious to how that was incest, when none of Goliaths clan were even related.

It was Demona and her fan-fictional biological son Jericho. They didn’t consider their relationship incest even though it biologically counted by human morality. Gargoyle morality was debated a bit in the fic.

Let us not forget that the second season of the same cartoon ended with an interspecies romantic kiss. Disney hasn’t been that woke in a long time.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Just because, I'm going to take that and run with it as a tangent to explore...

This is where we hit that blurry line:

Objecting over the conduct of a character vs. not liking a given a genre/fetish.

Tangent mode on:
"Back in my day" we had story codes on ASSTR - and for some reason most authors respected them despite no one enforcing anything - so you wouldn't accidentally click into a genre you did NOT like but also so you could find a genre you DID like. We have tags on literotica. I wish there was more of a culture of using them.

I'm not a fan of incest fiction. It has negative levels of appeal to me. Likewise underage, snuff, vore, racist / race-bating, violence & sex together. Usually I can very easily avoid landing on one of these stories. Where an author will risk getting a nasty comment from me is when there's no flag to let me know I might land on that. Which is NOT saying "the kinds of stories I don't like need to be flagged" - but rather it's saying "if everybody would please tag and categorize their stories - I could find the ones I'm seeking and not find the ones I'd rather not land in." (I actually have more trouble finding my kinks than I do with avoiding my squicks).

It's tangential to this topic because it's an easy come back to make in here: If you say people just need to understand it's fiction, why are you anti-incest stories? So I'm going there: "I'm anti me landing in such a story without knowing it would be that."
Tangent mode off.

Obviously this then begs the question of whether or not the commenter brought up in the original post had a point - should there have been a flag to caution them?

That becomes a 'can of worms'. Given the example I think the answer is no... but am I guilty of a double standard for that?

I'd put forth that:

1. We should tag / warn / advertise for things that are major to the story or, and only because this is an erotica site; are sexualities / sexual kinks / fetishes.
2. We don't need that for minor stuff or conduct that is not "radically out there" (now there's a vaguely loaded concept).
3. The line is fuzzy. Like the old SCOTUS ruling on which porn counts as 'depraved' smut: You know it when you see it - but defining it is kinda impossible.
4. There are going to be edge cases where reasonable people don't agree and it looks like some of us have landed ourselves in double standards.

The Supreme Court: it was Justice Potter Stewart in Jacobellis v. Ohio. However, the expression existed before that.

Regarding the original question: like kinks, if it's your own sense of morality, then it's fine. If it's from somebody else, then maybe not so much.

 

[MillieDynamite]

The only way you can do that on this site, currently, is to make the Tagline Catchline, There be incest here, like the maps that used to say, There be Monsters here.

Just because, I'm going to take that and run with it as a tangent to explore...

This is where we hit that blurry line:

Objecting over the conduct of a character vs. not liking a given a genre/fetish.

Tangent mode on:
"Back in my day" we had story codes on ASSTR - and for some reason most authors respected them despite no one enforcing anything - so you wouldn't accidentally click into a genre you did NOT like but also so you could find a genre you DID like. We have tags on literotica. I wish there was more of a culture of using them.

I'm not a fan of incest fiction. It has negative levels of appeal to me. Likewise underage, snuff, vore, racist / race-bating, violence & sex together. Usually I can very easily avoid landing on one of these stories. Where an author will risk getting a nasty comment from me is when there's no flag to let me know I might land on that. Which is NOT saying "the kinds of stories I don't like need to be flagged" - but rather it's saying "if everybody would please tag and categorize their stories - I could find the ones I'm seeking and not find the ones I'd rather not land in." (I actually have more trouble finding my kinks than I do with avoiding my squicks).

It's tangential to this topic because it's an easy come back to make in here: If you say people just need to understand it's fiction, why are you anti-incest stories? So I'm going there: "I'm anti me landing in such a story without knowing it would be that."
Tangent mode off.

Obviously this then begs the question of whether or not the commenter brought up in the original post had a point - should there have been a flag to caution them?

That becomes a 'can of worms'. Given the example I think the answer is no... but am I guilty of a double standard for that?

I'd put forth that:

1. We should tag / warn / advertise for things that are major to the story or, and only because this is an erotica site; are sexualities / sexual kinks / fetishes.
2. We don't need that for minor stuff or conduct that is not "radically out there" (now there's a vaguely loaded concept).
3. The line is fuzzy. Like the old SCOTUS ruling on which porn counts as 'depraved' smut: You know it when you see it - but defining it is kinda impossible.
4. There are going to be edge cases where reasonable people don't agree and it looks like some of us have landed ourselves in double standards.