Do They Know What They’re Doing to Me?

[MidKnight1378]

Take some advice from a retired high school teacher. Find that switch in your brain that turns off all your sexual thoughts. Turn it off when you’re at work and red tag it. If you can’t, find another job.

 

[FL30]

I’m a sub for high schools, and yesterday during the first period there was a co-teacher. She was hot. Maybe 5 feet 2, blonde hair, fit body, nice firm tits, and gorgeous legs accentuated by the jeans she wore that were so tight I don’t know how she got them on, plus her shoes had heels. Lips that made me wish they were sucking me.

This was all a lot as it was, but as she was helping some of the students, she bent over in front of me… not once, not twice, but three times… and her ass was as perfect as the rest of her.

Could she be so oblivious as to the effect she has on straight guys? I know when I was in 9th grade, if I had a teacher who looked and dressed like her I wouldn’t have been able to pay attention to what she was teaching!

I honestly don’t know if anyone noticed I was paying such close attention or not. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your point of view), she wasn’t in there for other periods, because I don’t know if I could have handled it!

Honestly, there are some days when I almost feel like there’s a conspiracy among hot women to torture me by doing things like that… I mean, I know they probably don’t give a crap if I happen to notice them or not! It would actually be great for my ego if I knew it was on purpose.

Here's a thread that you really, really need to read: https://forum.literotica.com/threads/things-women-wish-men-would-understand.1593476/

 

[KatieDoes]

PS. They're NOT thinking of you - AT ALL. No matter what type of clothes that they might be wearing.

They pick out and wear clothes that they like and feel comfortable in - just like you do.

Quit being a 13-year-old kid that can't control himself. Or maybe, you're just not use to being around grown women. Get off your computer, get out of your mom's basement and go out to some public places so that you can actually see what women wear in the real world.

Grow up and realize that there are thousands of women that are dressed up just like her in the real world that are NOT doing it for men or to look "sexy". They're doing it to be comfortable.

He’s 60 years old.

He’s had like 50 years to figure this out, and hasn’t managed to pull it off.

Ah well…. At least there were a couple similarly misguided men in these comments to tell everyone what women feel and about how our every thought and deed is fully devoted to appealing to men. So he can reread those and skip over the big meanies.

 

[live4thebj]

Let’s see.

1. Math teacher in HS. Once a week she would wear this short Bobby skirt that would shake as she is writing on the blackboard.

2. Computer programming teacher once a week she would wear this long skirt that would have a slit almost up to her ass and she had sexy legs. Caught me looking when I was getting extra help and she kept trying to keep her legs covered.

3. Substitute teacher. Short skirts and very long sexy legs.

4. I dated a teacher and if her students only new.

5. One of my daughters teacher. Even my daughter said she is hot.

 

[Dunes_et_Soleil]

He’s 60 years old.

He’s had like 50 years to figure this out, and hasn’t managed to pull it off.

To be honest, it did sound like he was just about ready to 'pull it off'

 

[FGB]

I’m a sub for high schools, and yesterday during the first period there was a co-teacher. She was hot. Maybe 5 feet 2, blonde hair, fit body, nice firm tits, and gorgeous legs accentuated by the jeans she wore that were so tight I don’t know how she got them on, plus her shoes had heels. Lips that made me wish they were sucking me.

This was all a lot as it was, but as she was helping some of the students, she bent over in front of me… not once, not twice, but three times… and her ass was as perfect as the rest of her.

Could she be so oblivious as to the effect she has on straight guys? I know when I was in 9th grade, if I had a teacher who looked and dressed like her I wouldn’t have been able to pay attention to what she was teaching!

I honestly don’t know if anyone noticed I was paying such close attention or not. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your point of view), she wasn’t in there for other periods, because I don’t know if I could have handled it!

Honestly, there are some days when I almost feel like there’s a conspiracy among hot women to torture me by doing things like that… I mean, I know they probably don’t give a crap if I happen to notice them or not! It would actually be great for my ego if I knew it was on purpose.

THAT is why I flunked Spanish.

Beautiful Twenty-Six, Dark Blonde...Green eyes. Born to fuck body, ample Breast...Legs all the way up to the crack of her ass!

Favored miniskirts with white Bikini panties. She loved to sit on her desktop and teach.

Written test was NO problem. Oral test facing her from two foot away or standing a foot and a half away!

Hell, I couldn't remember my own name!

(If that wasn't bad enough Phyllis George was my ninth-grade student teacher!
(RIP!)
George first competed for Miss Texas as Miss Denton in 1969, finishing fourth. The next year she competed as Miss Dallas and was named Miss Texas 1970, then was crowned Miss America 1971 on September 12, 1970.

 

[policywank]

I usually do dress to look good and that often involves having a bit of sex appeal. That is because I am a grown-up sexual being. However, it isn't usually aimed at anybody. And it is usually largely unrelated to how men might see me. I don't mean that as a backhanded way of being critical of men or diminishing those that might see my attire as sexy. I know they do and that is ok with me (as long as they behave themselves). And it isn't a matter of taking the position of I don't care what they think in a dismissive way. It is just a matter of not wanting to let that drive the decisions that I make for myself.

Whether a woman dresses sexy to impress men or avoids dressing sexy so as to not attract their attention, she is letting the male libido drive her decision as to what to wear. That is a problem in my view and I think that we underestimate the degree to which the assumption that how we appear to men - for better or for worse - permeates our view of how women dress.

Imagine as a man if your co-workers parsed your every clothing decision and read into it something about how you want them to see you. Wouldn't you naturally think, why do you think these choices have anything to do with you? Not as an insult to them. You wouldn't be saying that they or their opinions don't matter or that you are oblivious to how you appear to others.....just that that isn't the primary driver of your decisions.

I think that most human beings can get dressed, look at themselves in the mirror and make their own assessment of whether they like what they see and whether the clothes are suitable to their planned activities. You don't have to be dismissive of or oblivious to other people to honestly not be looking in that mirror thinking gee I wonder what Bob will think of my outfit.

Now if Bob is inclined to think that his opinion of your outfit matters and you should calibrate it to appeal to his sensibilities or endure his criticisms? Ya that is the point at which you would think fuck that guy.

 

[cdstefi]

I usually do dress to look good and that often involves having a bit of sex appeal. That is because I am a grown-up sexual being. However, it isn't usually aimed at anybody. And it is usually largely unrelated to how men might see me. I don't mean that as a backhanded way of being critical of men or diminishing those that might see my attire as sexy. I know they do and that is ok with me (as long as they behave themselves). And it isn't a matter of taking the position of I don't care what they think in a dismissive way. It is just a matter of not wanting to let that drive the decisions that I make for myself.

Whether a woman dresses sexy to impress men or avoids dressing sexy so as to not attract their attention, she is letting the male libido drive her decision as to what to wear. That is a problem in my view and I think that we underestimate the degree to which the assumption that how we appear to men - for better or for worse - permeates our view of how women dress.

Imagine as a man if your co-workers parsed your every clothing decision and read into it something about how you want them to see you. Wouldn't you naturally think, why do you think these choices have anything to do with you? Not as an insult to them. You wouldn't be saying that they or their opinions don't matter or that you are oblivious to how you appear to others.....just that that isn't the primary driver of your decisions.

I think that most human beings can get dressed, look at themselves in the mirror and make their own assessment of whether they like what they see and whether the clothes are suitable to their planned activities. You don't have to be dismissive of or oblivious to other people to honestly not be looking in that mirror thinking gee I wonder what Bob will think of my outfit.

Now if Bob is inclined to think that his opinion of your outfit matters and you should calibrate it to appeal to his sensibilities or endure his criticisms? Ya that is the point at which you would think fuck that guy.

Best explained viewpoint on this yet. But will the dudes listen? I got to understanding it already through the path of having a very switched-on, articulate wife who's happy to pick me up whenever I act remotely Neanderthal.

 

[policywank]

Best explained viewpoint on this yet. But will the dudes listen? I got to understanding it already through the path of having a very switched-on, articulate wife who's happy to pick me up whenever I act remotely Neanderthal.

Thank you. Oh I don't expect to change too many minds.

I can see why guys sometimes see female responses to this topic as strident, but respectfully I think it is because of a fairly large blind spot. Many have an over developed sense of their importance to the decisions that women make. I think that most women would be ok to just let them believe whatever they want if it were innocuous. But when it starts to turn to making judgments about us and presuming to tell us how to make those decisions it is only reasonable that we push back.

When that happens guys see it in terms of why are you being that way and why did you push me? They conveniently overlook the fact that they were the one that "started it" so to speak by presuming to judge our decisions. It is a little like the kid in the school yard who thinks they are entitled to push other people. They take offence when someone pushes back because they have so internalized their now inherent right to push without it ever coming back - their blind spot.

 

[cdstefi]

Thank you. Oh I don't expect to change too many minds.

I can see why guys sometimes see female responses to this topic as strident, but respectfully I think it is because of a fairly large blind spot. Many have an over developed sense of their importance to the decisions that women make. I think that most women would be ok to just let them believe whatever they want if it were innocuous. But when it starts to turn to making judgments about us and presuming to tell us how to make those decisions it is only reasonable that we push back.

When that happens guys see it in terms of why are you being that way and why did you push me? They conveniently overlook the fact that they were the one that "started it" so to speak by presuming to judge our decisions. It is a little like the kid in the school yard who thinks they are entitled to push other people. They take offence when someone pushes back because they have so internalized their now inherent right to push without it ever coming back - their blind spot.

It does kinda point up what male privilege is. That feeling that you just don't need to excuse it, rationalise it, see it from another's viewpoint. And if you do get called on it, feel attacked rather than reasoned with and go on the defensive, act out MRA and MGOTW and basically like a pathetic twat with no self-awareness or wish to acquire it.

Sadly, although my own kids' generation (gen Zers, they're all young adults) are way ahead of my boomer generation on reasonable, equality focussed thinking, it seems like there's one coming up behind them that's regressing again thanks to the likes of TikTok and "influencers" like that godawful specimen Tate. My wife teaches high school age kids and the attitudes (learnt, assumed, adopted) of the boys in particular but their effect on girls too, are just horrible.

I just don't understand why it still seems so impossible for the majority of guys to be attracted to women but unable to express it in an appropriate and respectful way. I mean back before the interwebz and instant dopamine hits, you'd chat socially, flirt if you got the signs it was welcomed, then take it from there and discover what made the person you're attracted to tick. Not any more. I despair a little when I read shit like the OP because for fucks sake, haven't we got beyond this? Women's empowerment isn't automatically male emasculation. We (as men) should welcome it as a long overdue levelling of the playing field.

 

[cdstefi]

We start getting catcalled by old men by the time we’re in middle school. We know what men think of us and our bodies. At some point we figure out how to just exist regardless of it.

I get that. My wife's had that shit in the street, on the bus, wherever; sometimes innocuous and "meant in fun, love, don't get yer knickers in a twist", sometimes downright creepy, threatening and rapey. If anything it's just resolved me to try a bit fucking harder not to be that guy (not that I was to start with, guess I was maybe brought up OK) but just no. I refuse.

 

[cdstefi]

Also, I'd call on the guys who have posted irrelevant porn-style pics on this thread to take a step back and try to imagine what the women you're presumably trying to attract would make of it.

Or maybe just carry on with your circle jerk.

 

[Errorusernametaken]

Never be sorry in front of these people. Self righteous, busybody, chronic malcontents are always on the lookout for something to bitch about and someone to talk down to.

In their minds gaining an apology from the target justifies their existence and makes them feel victorious.

This was your turn. It’ll be someone else shortly. If you must give them anything, give them the contempt they deserve, and give it abundantly.

Well said. Honestly, some of the replies on here are like from cult members. I pity them.

 

[MelodyLikeAMemory]

Honestly, there are some days when I almost feel like there’s a conspiracy among hot women to torture me by doing things like that…

This sounds similar to what that murdering Incel said in the Atlanta murders of Asian women he blamed for tempting him into sexual thoughts.

 

[MelodyLikeAMemory]

I find it sort of funny people on this site object to being treated and talked about as an object of desire.... IF she was wearing what he said i find it reasonable that he was attracted. Wearing skin tight jeans and heels bending over and flashing your assets is going to get attention. Me thinks they protest too much

I find it sort of funny that we’re expected to want to entertain any and every mouthbreather on this site just because it’s Erotica focused. Or that we shouldn’t correct disordered thinking in a person who is transferring blame for HIS train of thought onto someone else.

Me thinks that’s the most pick-me-ass-bitch comment I’ve read today.

 

[Missk_2022]

I find it sort of funny that we’re expected to want to entertain any and every mouthbreather on this site just because it’s Erotica focused. Or that we shouldn’t correct disordered thinking in a person who is transferring blame for HIS train of thought onto someone else.

Me thinks that’s the most pick-me-ass-bitch comment I’ve read today.

I erased post as I am not interested in name calling and arguing. Good luck and be well

 

[MelodyLikeAMemory]

I erased post as I am not interested in name calling and arguing. Good luck and be well

I guess I’m glad I both quoted and screenshot it so it can live forever then.

 

[Errorusernametaken]

I erased post as I am not interested in name calling and arguing. Good luck and be well

Don't worry about idiots like these - they claim they're standing up for women yet they attack any woman who dares to have an opinion different from theirs. They're hypocrites and just bitter and resentful bullies.

 

[Errorusernametaken]

I guess I’m glad I both quoted and screenshot it so it can live forever then.

You: men are bullying women!
Also you: bullies women

Make it make sense!

 

[policywank]

I erased post as I am not interested in name calling and arguing. Good luck and be well

I don't think there is a reason for everyone to insult one another around this topic. It is just that there are multiple points being made.

I agree that if I (or any woman) am wearing certain attire that it may attract attention. Likewise if I bend over to pick something up that might attract more attention. I don't begrudge any of that and it doesn't bother me as long as guys behave themselves.

Meanwhile it is worth making the point that just because I know it might attract male attention doesn't mean that is the reason I do it. Likewise if I bend over it might be solely to pick something up. There is no insult intended in saying either "no she doesn't know what she is doing to you" or "maybe she does but she doesn't care". Not because she is being callous or conniving, but simply that it is her right to wear what she wants without having to think about how it affects men.

Social context matters. "She was asking for it because she wore a short skirt" is still a very real problem for women. As a result, any suggestion that women are dressing to elicit certain behaviour from men (let alone one specific narcissistic man) or that how our clothes affects men is top of mind is naturally going to draw a reaction. Sometimes male reaction to our attire is top of mind, but more often it is because we are wary of bad behaviour not because we are looking to tempt.

 

[SlutAddicted]

I don't think there is a reason for everyone to insult one another around this topic. It is just that there are multiple points being made.

I agree that if I (or any woman) am wearing certain attire that it may attract attention. Likewise if I bend over to pick something up that might attract more attention. I don't begrudge any of that and it doesn't bother me as long as guys behave themselves.

Meanwhile it is worth making the point that just because I know it might attract male attention doesn't mean that is the reason I do it. Likewise if I bend over it might be solely to pick something up. There is no insult intended in saying either "no she doesn't know what she is doing to you" or "maybe she does but she doesn't care". Not because she is being callous or conniving, but simply that it is her right to wear what she wants without having to think about how it affects men.

Social context matters. "She was asking for it because she wore a short skirt" is still a very real problem for women. As a result, any suggestion that women are dressing to elicit certain behaviour from men (let alone one specific narcissistic man) or that how our clothes affects men is top of mind is naturally going to draw a reaction. Sometimes ale reaction to our attire is top of mind, but more often it is because we are wary of bad behaviour not because we are looking to tempt.

All true, but you are definitely baiting the trolls, lol.

 

[live4thebj]

This reminds me of something. I can’t say the age because not sure but just for the record I was 19 when I graduated so let’s assume I was at least 18 when this happened. A VP of my HS was this okay looking woman with tree trunk legs and wore short skirts a lot. There were rumors of her having sex with students.

Didn’t give it a second thought till one day I was upset about something. She took me to her office had me sit down and started to rub my back while standing and pressing her body next to me. I in return wrapped my hand around her leg and held it. I regret not letting my hand slip further up.

 

[RoryN]

2003 GB threads: "Discovered the [x brand] nipple clamps today; they are amazing! How do you like to use yours?"

2023 GB threads: "I saw a woman, and became aroused. What is to be done?"

FFS...

 

[cdstefi]

2003 GB threads: "Discovered the [x brand] nipple clamps today; they are amazing! How do you like to use yours?"

2023 GB threads: "I saw a woman, and became aroused. What is to be done?"

FFS...

"I saw a woman and became aroused. What is to be done?"

Erm, act like a rational human being, accept your arousal but don't bother expressing it unless explicitly asked for?

 

[rachelday801]

I’m a sub for high schools, and yesterday during the first period there was a co-teacher. She was hot. Maybe 5 feet 2, blonde hair, fit body, nice firm tits, and gorgeous legs accentuated by the jeans she wore that were so tight I don’t know how she got them on, plus her shoes had heels. Lips that made me wish they were sucking me.

This was all a lot as it was, but as she was helping some of the students, she bent over in front of me… not once, not twice, but three times… and her ass was as perfect as the rest of her.

Could she be so oblivious as to the effect she has on straight guys? I know when I was in 9th grade, if I had a teacher who looked and dressed like her I wouldn’t have been able to pay attention to what she was teaching!

I honestly don’t know if anyone noticed I was paying such close attention or not. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your point of view), she wasn’t in there for other periods, because I don’t know if I could have handled it!

Honestly, there are some days when I almost feel like there’s a conspiracy among hot women to torture me by doing things like that… I mean, I know they probably don’t give a crap if I happen to notice them or not! It would actually be great for my ego if I knew it was on purpose.

fun!