Cousin topic = incest?!?

[Escierto]

Technically it may be incest but 19 states allow first cousins to marry.

 

[windar]

Cousin sex technically is incest, but the taboo element is weak, so it lacks the sizzle of more intimate incest. That's why I'll never write a cousin story. From my point of view, there's just no erotic interest.

Are you saying there is no erotic interest unless there is incest? I really hope that isn't true!

 

[SimonDoom]

Are you saying there is no erotic interest unless there is incest? I really hope that isn't true!

Of course not. But my attitude is that when I pick a particular erotic focus, I'm going to go all-in. If I'm going to write an incest story, it's going to be a REAL incest story -- no in-laws, or step-moms, or cousins for me. I want maximum taboo and sizzle. Mom-son. Father-daughter. Brother-sister. Otherwise, I don't see the point. That's just me.

 

[windar]

Of course not. But my attitude is that when I pick a particular erotic focus, I'm going to go all-in. If I'm going to write an incest story, it's going to be a REAL incest story -- no in-laws, or step-moms, or cousins for me. I want maximum taboo and sizzle. Mom-son. Father-daughter. Brother-sister. Otherwise, I don't see the point. That's just me.

Given that there are over 50k "Incest/Taboo" stories on Lit, one wonders if it's really such a big deal... And are there other taboos covered? What is taboo these days?

 

[lovecraft68]

Are you saying there is no erotic interest unless there is incest? I really hope that isn't true!

Most popular erotica these days. both here and in the pay market, is kink specific. Writing a story about the guy who gets lucky with a woman his age he met at Starbucks is never going to get the attention of something that has a niche to it, incest, milf, hotwife, interracial etc...other than the romance category people want more.

Example...let's go basic porn trope. UPS guy is greeted at the door by an attractive woman, she invites him in, sex is had. Meh....
Make him black...or make her married and cheating, make him young and her older, maybe the husband is there and wants to watch or join in, she has her girlfriend here and they're in the mood for some cock, maybe even have him force himself on her, add your kink of choice and...much better.

 

[Taggy1]

 

[SimonDoom]

Given that there are over 50k "Incest/Taboo" stories on Lit, one wonders if it's really such a big deal... And are there other taboos covered? What is taboo these days?

Taboo is in the eye of the beholder. People have different boundaries--what they will and won't do.

For example, interracial sex used to be taboo. It isn't so much, anymore, but as an erotic category it still excites people, for a variety of reasons, maybe partly because of the appearance of taboo, or of some residual historical sense of taboo. That's a very weird, complicated fetish. But then, so is noncon, and so is incest.

Is anal sex taboo? I think for many it still is, and even for those who partake of it there is a sense of it being a little naughtier than vaginal sex. The naughtiness makes it more fun, in a story. Same thing with pee stories.

I don't think of gay sex as taboo anymore, although maybe it is for some. But the taboo element can be present in a relationship between one person who identifies as gay and one person who traditionally has identified as straight but is questioning his or her sexuality. Internal conflict creates erotic interest.

In general, taboos have fallen, and I think that's why incest is so popular, because it's one of the few things that truly remains taboo. It IS a big deal. People like to fantasize or read about it, but that is in no way evidence that people think incest in real life is mainstream or acceptable. It's precisely why I write incest stories. I think the concept in real life seems nutty or appalling. But in my fantasy worlds it can be fun, and the presence of taboo gives the stories interest.

 

[shinybikiniwife]

cousin topic better not be... or... i......................... erm....

 

[windar]

Taboo is in the eye of the beholder. People have different boundaries--what they will and won't do.

For example, interracial sex used to be taboo. It isn't so much, anymore, but as an erotic category it still excites people, for a variety of reasons, maybe partly because of the appearance of taboo, or of some residual historical sense of taboo. That's a very weird, complicated fetish. But then, so is noncon, and so is incest.

Is anal sex taboo? I think for many it still is, and even for those who partake of it there is a sense of it being a little naughtier than vaginal sex. The naughtiness makes it more fun, in a story. Same thing with pee stories.

I don't think of gay sex as taboo anymore, although maybe it is for some. But the taboo element can be present in a relationship between one person who identifies as gay and one person who traditionally has identified as straight but is questioning his or her sexuality. Internal conflict creates erotic interest.

In general, taboos have fallen, and I think that's why incest is so popular, because it's one of the few things that truly remains taboo. It IS a big deal. People like to fantasize or read about it, but that is in no way evidence that people think incest in real life is mainstream or acceptable. It's precisely why I write incest stories. I think the concept in real life seems nutty or appalling. But in my fantasy worlds it can be fun, and the presence of taboo gives the stories interest.

I generally don't write stories that are "about" any particular sex act. I try to write stories that are stories first, where sex will generally occur, but not necessarily be the focus of the story (sort of like real life). Those are the stories I enjoy writing and reading and I don't really like categorizing things by which particular sex acts are included. But that's just my kink, I guess..

I've had decent success on both free and pay sites, so I'll probably continue doing that, unless I stop writing altogether...

 

[J0line]

Incest is relations between family members...

At Literotica, incest is a "trump" category, meaning if the story has incest and other erotic elements, the incest usually trumps them and the story goes in incest, often even if you want to publish it elsewhere.

Unless you publish a story about a guy having sex with sisters, or a gal and her mom.

Which I don't understand since by Literotica rules watching someone else have sex is a sex act.

So if sis sees sis, or mom and daughter see each other have sex it's incest...

Except it's not.

 

[lovecraft68]

Unless you publish a story about a guy having sex with sisters, or a gal and her mom.

Which I don't understand since by Literotica rules watching someone else have sex is a sex act.

So if sis sees sis, or mom and daughter see each other have sex it's incest...

Except it's not.

This is a site that says it doesn't allow rape stories, but has a category titles non consent. Logic has no place here.
Sarcasm aside, the fact incest is a love hate thing, anything revolving around it in any way will get put there to avoid readers in other categories flipping out
In most stories where sis watches mom have sex....she'll end up having sex with mom by the end.

 

[jehoram]

I've published stories where the lovers are first cousins once removed, and there weren't issues.

As for taboos, I find it ironic that the word comes from the Polynesian word for "forbidden" and that was from a culture where the ideal coupling for royals was brother and sister.

 

[J0line]

Taboos are only taboos when commoners partake.

 

[SimonDoom]

I generally don't write stories that are "about" any particular sex act. I try to write stories that are stories first, where sex will generally occur, but not necessarily be the focus of the story (sort of like real life). Those are the stories I enjoy writing and reading and I don't really like categorizing things by which particular sex acts are included. But that's just my kink, I guess..

 

[SimonDoom]

There's nothing wrong with that, and there are many readers and writers that agree with your taste. But mine's different. My stories at Literotica are focused on a sexual/erotic idea, and the story is built around that. I write stories about sex, not stories with sex.

Literotica is a big tent that includes both kinds.

 

[SimonDoom]

Taboos are only taboos when commoners partake.

Well, thank goodness for commoners, because their taboos make stories more fun.

 

[ElectricBlue]

At Literotica, incest is a "trump" category, meaning if the story has incest and other erotic elements, the incest usually trumps them and the story goes in incest, often even if you want to publish it elsewhere.

"Usually" being the operative word. I have two long stories with strong incest elements that went into my categories of choice, and thank goodness they did.

From what I gather, many incest readers seem to have a very high squick intolerance for anything outside their comfort zone. I think both stories would have been punished because of their other kink elements. It's a weird version of puritanical morality, I think. Very odd.

 

[SimonDoom]

"Usually" being the operative word. I have two long stories with strong incest elements that went into my categories of choice, and thank goodness they did.

From what I gather, many incest readers seem to have a very high squick intolerance for anything outside their comfort zone. I think both stories would have been punished because of their other kink elements. It's a weird version of puritanical morality, I think. Very odd.

A "weird version of puritanical morality" is an apt description of a surprising amount of thinking at a site where, presumably, one should be free to let one's erotic fantasies run free.

 

[J0line]

"I like like left-handed hermaphrodite trapeze artists masturbating to Monk while performing, but your story has Dave, a left-handed hermaphrodite trapeze artist masturbating to Ellington under the big top... HOW COULD YOU?!?!?! One star..."

 

[BritStories]

Hello all, newbie here and this seems as good a place as any to jump in. I've just posted a story about a dad and a son falling in with the same woman in the Romance category and the three of them working out a way to all get their needs met - there's no incest but I think it's pretty taboo...I assumed it would bomb in the I/T category and at the heart of it there's a romance theme of there being someone for everyone. Putting aside the question or whether it's any good or not, methinks it's gonna be too taboo for Romance though...we'll see!

 

[TheRedChamber]

Hello all, newbie here and this seems as good a place as any to jump in. I've just posted a story about a dad and a son falling in with the same woman in the Romance category and the three of them working out a way to all get their needs met - there's no incest but I think it's pretty taboo...I assumed it would bomb in the I/T category and at the heart of it there's a romance theme of there being someone for everyone. Putting aside the question or whether it's any good or not, methinks it's gonna be too taboo for Romance though...we'll see!

I suspect you did the right thing. Even when I've posted stories with a disclaimer at the top that say this is Taboo not Incest, I've still got downvoted and told that my story is in the wrong catagory. Not how Romance will get on with it though...

 

[BritStories]

Not how Romance will get on with it though...

Not so great, I think (but 4 positive comments which is a great boost) - I read a lot of dark romance which this would probably fit more into...but maybe that's not Lit's definition of Romance!