SpeareChucker
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Still disagree. Most people do not pay any attention to politics and when they go to vote, it is based upon what they last saw on TV...
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Still disagree. Most people do not pay any attention to politics and when they go to vote, it is based upon what they last saw on TV...
Bingo....because democracy.
No it's not. We just have a lazy ignorant electorate.
Most folks don't even know the basics and I bet you less than 20% of them could name their representatives off the top of their head because they just aren't involved and don't pay attention.
Yes and no.
They are VERY interested in the people's business, because that's how they get elected.
What they are NOT interested in doing is shitting on the people that produce for or service that need to help out those who don't.
Still disagree. Most people do not pay any attention to politics and when they go to vote, it is based upon what they last saw on TV...
I agree with that but it doesn't have anything to do with what I said.
Who do you think will get a greater response from their representatives when they need help?
The business owner who spent XXX,X00,000 bucks and days/weeks/months helping them win their campaign?
Or some petulant little shit or bum who wrote them a nasty letter talking about "You need to do this and I wan that." ??
I'm betting the person who contributes their time and efforts to the election gets a MUCH more responsive outcome than the "We'll get right on that, thanks!!" letter they will send the bum.
Sit at home to debate politics on the internet - not a luxury most Americans have.
You think the American people don't want or don't accept compromise then you are wrong. If you have doubts you either don't get out much or only read party-line opinion.
~ the will of the people ~
Sad but true it's why I vote out incumbents. No delivering a stupid project to my district does not get a vote.
Self employment has it's perks.
You're not paying attention.....the polarization and cries for change away from dysfunctional centrism says otherwise.
I am paying attention to nonpartisan political analysts who say the majority of voters want a moderate candidate. The problem with politics right now is polarization. There is little compromise in congress.
I am not paying attention to partisan or radicalized shills on this board. This board is not a representation of average voters. Get out with people and find out for yourself.
~the will of the people~
The current Democrat Party is not it. They are the party of self loathing. Someone like Bill Clinton from the early '90's but with basic decency would be fine. Is Andrew Cuomo their poster boy now. He's just another corrupt, incompetent, self loathing socialist. Unless the Democrat Party gets its act together(which they won't), we're going to have to deal with more people like Trump. Cuomo:"America was never great." His own father is rolling over in his grave.
We have term limits? Not the senate or house.
Another new definition from the BotanyBoy dictionary.Yup.
Every six years for the senators and every two for the reps.
i agree there needs to be an alternative but
the reality is ...unless term limits are put on congress....stymied ineffective govt will just continue as normal. current govt's main objective is to preserve their benefits and way of life at any cost and to take in as much money as possible by selling their influence. the old idea of representation of constituents has sort of fallen by the wayside. i suspect some honest idealogs actually got to Washington but it didn't take long for the system to suck them in and wring out any shred of decency or honesty.
the basic requirements for being president should be upheld though......like being an American born person as an example
I am paying attention to nonpartisan political analysts who say the majority of voters want a moderate candidate.
Another new definition from the BotanyBoy dictionary.
Everybody thinks they're Rush.
No such thing as nonpartisan political analysts.
And they say that in total DENIAL of the world they are living in, because the majority of voters aren't voting for moderate anything right now. Otherwise Kasich would be POTUS and AntiFa wouldn't be out in the streets with the MSM cheering them on against "the Nazis".
Demoz are nominating and electing progressive/social democrats and outright socialist left and right. They are out in the streets getting violent and destructive in the name of "progress". Obama won on the promise of hope and CHANGE.
GOP'erz wanted an outsider, fresh corporate blood!!! They elected Trump and are about to start up some Article V shit and do some totally not moderate compromised into completely useless shit.
This is a simple concept. Voters must choose between increasingly polarized Congressional candidates that do not represent the majority. The majority of voters are MODERATE politically. BOTH party platforms are increasingly extreme. Voters want compromise in Congress so the work gets done. That is the REAL world.
Nonpartisan political analysts exist.
Voters elect those polarized Congress critters. They aren't made to choose between them.
Compromise doesn't accomplish shit, it's not working. That's why the majority on both sides are screaming for change, that is what is pushing the polarization.
That is the point. They have to vote for them. Voters increasingly have to make a choice between two polarized candidates.
Compromise is positive. Party platforms are polarized by special interests. The average American voter who is politically moderate is not driving polarization. Get real.
That is the point. They have to vote for them. Voters increasingly have to make a choice between two polarized candidates.
Compromise is positive.
The average American voter who is politically moderate is not driving polarization.
The candidates are polarized because the voters put them up and vote for them.
The voters can NOT avoid their responsibility in a democracy.
If they wanted more moderate candidates they would run and vote for them....but they don't because we are not as moderate as you want to pretend we are.
Not always, if you take it too far it's totally dysfunctional.
Our Romneycare system is a prime example of compromise taken to the point of making the "reforms" total shit.
The average American voter used to be politically moderate, that time has passed because compromising everything into total uselessness, like ACA is getting old and more and more people are fucking tired of it.
That's why they all want that change...which is really just picking a direction and getting off top dead center for once.
I am going to post this again. Follow the logic.
Most voters are Moderate on the issues.
The party platforms are increasingly polarized because of special interests.
Moderate voters have to choose between two candidates running on a polarized platform. The voters want compromise in Congress.
They want Congress to get their work done. Most voters are moderates. They are not driving party polarization.
Political analysts agree that party polarization is a problem in US government right now.
I live in very liberal California. We tend to elect very liberal candidates here by a significant margin.
Ok..
That's not logic, that's a bunch of wild assumptions that fly in the face of observable reality....the most insane of which is that compromise = effective governance.
I agree with them, but what we do not agree about is why.