Why do Republicans have Rinos, but Democrats don’t have Dinos?

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Once upon a time GW and GHW Bush were the great leaders of the republican party leaders beyond reproach. I can understand this both were war time presidents and as such their popularity soared for a short time. However, they never became the demigod Reagan has become.

Reagan never lost his luster which is odd considering some Reagan’s policies were in direct contrast to what republicans as a party say they hold dear, but that’s a story for another time..

I also find it weird that when someone like Taylor Swift voices a political stance the party of Reagan, Trump, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent cry out, celebrities have no place in politics. But I digress.

Donald Trump a reality TV star who had absolutely no experience in politics, no concept of what this country stands for or what the Constitution is. Yet anyone republican from the Bush’s to McCain who disagrees with Trump is instantly labeled a rino or worst.

JFK is the closest thing democrats have as a demigod. Which is understandable a young president who ushered in the space age, was cut down far to soon leaving people to wonder what he could have accomplished if he lived. Basically he was killed before he had a chance to fuck up so he is golified.

Let me talk about other democrats I’ll start with Jimmy Carter arguable the worst modern democrat president. Yet is still beloved and admired by Americans of all parties because of his outstanding accomplishments after leaving office and more importantly his character as a man.. Carter’s efforts lead to the near-eradication of dracunculiasis, also called Guinea worm disease. The incidence of this disease has decreased from 3.5 million cases in the mid-1980s, to 25 cases in 2016, and 10 as of September 2021 according to the Carter Center's statistics. Which other president has helped eliminate a disease? Brokered several peace treaties? Not just said they were a Christian but lead a Christian life?

Bill Clinton a morally flawed man yet still is a great leader. He pushed for the internet to be expanded beyond the DoD and come into the home of every American. He was able to look past politics and lend a hand to the republicans when doing so would help his fellow Americans. Most democrats admire him for that. In fact because GW often enlisted Clinton and his father to use there unique experiences whenever he had a tricky diplomatic issue to solve or navigate..

Clinton and the Bush’s became so close that GHW Bush’s sons Jeb, GW, Neil referred to Bill as a brother by another mother. To which Bill said, “The only reason I’m so welcome by George and his brothers is because their mother wanted another president in the family.”, and Barbara Bush laughed.

To which Barbara quipped back, “Every family has one black sheep.”, and no one laughed harder than Bill and his brothers by another mother.

Now we come to Obama, and we all remember Michelle and GW sharing a cough drop and the eulogy of John McCain.. McCain the last of the real republicans. I still remember when McCain explained to a birthed that, “He is an American, a good family man, who I just have some fundamental political difference with.”

At that moment McCain was labeled a rino.. Whenever a democrat defends a republican or befriends a republican their fellow democrats didn’t disown Obama, Carter, Clinton they welcome it… They were not labeled a Dino.. So why whenever a republican merely disagree with which ever republican is popular at the time or heaven forbid they defend a democrat t hey are shunned and labeled a Rino? Why the stupid childish silly names?
 
The Republican party started catering to the extremists, and sadly, these extremists used people's darker instincts- tribalism, bigotry, fear and yes, religion- to motivate their base. Whereas, the Democrats tried to be inclusive, bring people together and work for the common good, basically appeal to people's better instincts, as opposed to being divisive.
 
There have been a few - Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman - but by and large they've all either died or officially become Republicans.
 
The problem is that a once-serious political party has been taken over by extremists. They call themselves 'Republicans' but they are Republicans in name only.

Twenty years ago they were muttering to themselves on their back porches but some drug addict fraudster became famous and told them that their vote counted.

The Democrats have never had a similar take-over by extremists.
 
I suppose you could call Manchin a DINO, but most people just call him a turd.

Trump is a CINO (conservative in name only). The $7 trillion he added to the national debt through reckless deficit spending disqualifies him from ever being considered an actual conservative.
 
The Pubs were a tighter and smaller coalition. The Dems were a big tent party with many conflicting interests, so compromise, mostly by catering to the moderates and ignoring the fringe, was necessary for adequate voter turnout. Until Trump.
 
Simple. Dems are Marxists.
How so?

Are they promoting no classes? IE: are they writing policy that removes the upper, low and middle class? Making everyone's employment based upon the common good for society. Or in more simpler terms writing laws or policy that removes ownership and ending the capitalistic economic model?

Come on show us where Dems are writing or implementing these policys. Now I'm not claiming the Dems are correct about their economic philosophy, or that their policy's are moves in the right direction, but I see no Marxist directions from them.

If you do, please outline them. Myself I am guessing you don't know anything about Marxism, and are just repeating talking points.
 
Marxists are for: Gun Control, Limiting Free Speech, Standardized Medicine, against freedom of Religion, against personal choice, for high taxes, believe in programs, want to tell everyone one what to do, want to control business, want to regulate everything, believes the state is more important than parents, say they are for the poor but create a wealthy class and a poor class, say they are for the little guy but create food lines, say they are for equality but really there isn't anything, believe in a utopia but create a dystopia....Isn't this exactly every single Dem run city and state?
Food for thought
There is a difference between what a Marxists says Marxism is.
Then there is the REALITY of Marxism. It NEVER WORKS....just like how every single Dem policy doesn't work.
The reason you haven't been taught this in your public school and university is because Marxists run these institutions through the Marxist run Teachers Union and the Marxist run Government Unions.
Want to fix America get rid of Marxism.
 
Simple. Dems are Marxists.

How so?

Are they promoting no classes? IE: are they writing policy that removes the upper, low and middle class? Making everyone's employment based upon the common good for society. Or in more simpler terms writing laws or policy that removes ownership and ending the capitalistic economic model?

Come on show us where Dems are writing or implementing these policys. Now I'm not claiming the Dems are correct about their economic philosophy, or that their policy's are moves in the right direction, but I see no Marxist directions from them.

If you do, please outline them. Myself I am guessing you don't know anything about Marxism, and are just repeating talking points.

Marxists are for: Gun Control, Limiting Free Speech, Standardized Medicine, against freedom of Religion, against personal choice, for high taxes, believe in programs, want to tell everyone one what to do, want to control business, want to regulate everything, believes the state is more important than parents, say they are for the poor but create a wealthy class and a poor class, say they are for the little guy but create food lines, say they are for equality but really there isn't anything, believe in a utopia but create a dystopia....Isn't this exactly every single Dem run city and state?
Food for thought
There is a difference between what a Marxists says Marxism is.
Then there is the REALITY of Marxism. It NEVER WORKS....just like how every single Dem policy doesn't work.
The reason you haven't been taught this in your public school and university is because Marxists run these institutions through the Marxist run Teachers Union and the Marxist run Government Unions.
Want to fix America get rid of Marxism.
So I ask you to explain the Dem's policies and where they are implementing Marxism. What do I get, a rambling statement, made up of today's Right Wing talking points.

You have not listed one single policy or government regulation or action that is Marxist in definition by the Democrats currently elected.

Oh and learn how to use the quote function, if you actually want to make sure the person you're answering knows you answered....
Which leaves me to believe you know nothing about what Marxism actually is.
 
Republican'ts are expected to link arms and march in lock step as per Ronnie Ray Gunz ("Never say anything bad against a fellow republican't.)... so you call them RINO's. You can not get democraps to agree together on hardly anything. It's like herding cats.
 
So I ask you to explain the Dem's policies and where they are implementing Marxism. What do I get, a rambling statement, made up of today's Right Wing talking points.

You have not listed one single policy or government regulation or action that is Marxist in definition by the Democrats currently elected.

Oh and learn how to use the quote function, if you actually want to make sure the person you're answering knows you answered....
Which leaves me to believe you know nothing about what Marxism actually is.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY BLIND CULT FOLLOWER OF MARX. EVERY SINGLE POLICY OF THE DEM PARTY IS MARXIST. GREEN NEW DEAL IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. SOCIAL SECURITY. OPEN BORDERS. "PROGRAMS." LIST GOES ON FOREVER.

MAYBE JUST MAYBE IF YOU'D LOOK AT CALIFORNIA, ILLINOIS, AND NEW YORK. YOU'D SEE....IF YOU'D TAKE OFF THE MARXIST BLINDERS...THAT IS MARXIST POLICY.

MAYBE JUST MAYBE REAL AMERICAN POLICY ISN'T JUST A TALKING POINT....JUST MAYBE...THEY ARE CORRECT.
 
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY BLIND CULT FOLLOWER OF MARX. EVERY SINGLE POLICY OF THE DEM PARTY IS MARXIST. GREEN NEW DEAL IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. SOCIAL SECURITY. OPEN BORDERS. "PROGRAMS." LIST GOES ON FOREVER.

MAYBE JUST MAYBE IF YOU'D LOOK AT CALIFORNIA, ILLINOIS, AND NEW YORK. YOU'D SEE....IF YOU'D TAKE OFF THE MARXIST BLINDERS...THAT IS MARXIST POLICY.

MAYBE JUST MAYBE REAL AMERICAN POLICY ISN'T JUST A TALKING POINT....JUST MAYBE...THEY ARE CORRECT.
I favor higher taxes on the rich, giving women more control over their health care, and eliminating government subsidies for private cars. Do you consider those policies Marxist?
 
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY BLIND CULT FOLLOWER OF MARX. EVERY SINGLE POLICY OF THE DEM PARTY IS MARXIST. GREEN NEW DEAL IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. SOCIAL SECURITY. OPEN BORDERS. "PROGRAMS." LIST GOES ON FOREVER.

MAYBE JUST MAYBE IF YOU'D LOOK AT CALIFORNIA, ILLINOIS, AND NEW YORK. YOU'D SEE....IF YOU'D TAKE OFF THE MARXIST BLINDERS...THAT IS MARXIST POLICY.

MAYBE JUST MAYBE REAL AMERICAN POLICY ISN'T JUST A TALKING POINT....JUST MAYBE...THEY ARE CORRECT.
Please please please make the dismantling of Social Security a pillar of the Republican Party.
 
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY BLIND CULT FOLLOWER OF MARX. EVERY SINGLE POLICY OF THE DEM PARTY IS MARXIST. GREEN NEW DEAL IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. SOCIAL SECURITY. OPEN BORDERS. "PROGRAMS." LIST GOES ON FOREVER.
No they are not, you don't understand Marxism. For a simpleton such as yourself, the best real world example of Marxism is to look at how a Honey Bee hive functions, or Ants. The whole of the society is based upon the good of the society. Each member know their place, and works towards the success of the society.

Why Marxism fails is due to the fact that if one member, or one portion of that society desires a different goal as being the measure as success, or fails to give up the freedom required to promote the health of the society; the Marxism model fails.
MAYBE JUST MAYBE IF YOU'D LOOK AT CALIFORNIA, ILLINOIS, AND NEW YORK. YOU'D SEE....IF YOU'D TAKE OFF THE MARXIST BLINDERS...THAT IS MARXIST POLICY.
I have no idea of what you mean is going on in Cali,or Ill or NY that is Marxist policy. None zero zilch.

I understand Marxism and yet I have not seen one rule ,law or policy that is Marxist. Perhaps you have and can explain them?
MAYBE JUST MAYBE REAL AMERICAN POLICY ISN'T JUST A TALKING POINT....JUST MAYBE...THEY ARE CORRECT.
Maybe they are, or maybe they are not, so far all you have done is reinforce my belief that you know nothing about Marxism. You have shown me you dislike the direction of the Democrats, but try and blame that dislike on Marxism, not the actual reasons they are occurring

Oh and using all caps doesn't really help your point of view. Using actual fact backed up by proof is a much clearer way of getting your point across. I'll digress here for just a moment.

You claimed the Democrats are against free speech, or freedom of religion etc. Those are enshrined rights which can only be repealed through a constitutional amendment. Yet there are hundreds of youtube videos out there showing multitudes of violations of these rights, in cities and towns all across America. From places governed by different parties. So if we follow your comment that violating or removing these rights is Marxism,then both party's are practising "Marxism".
 
They misuse Marxism Communism and Socialism; yet their leader cheers the return of The Russian Empire.

Why does he do that? Why do they tolerate it?

Two billion dollars to Trumps Secretary of the Treasury and Thump’s son in law…. Crickets
How much did other Arab countries pay them ????

Emoluments ?? Nawwwwww!!! “We just don’t comprehend the concept of bribery”

Socialism … hmm.. roads schools but Trumplikans want those privatized

They are SHEEP
 
Logical presentations will not change a passionate, closed mind. Might I suggest not poking the 'bear' any further?
 
I favor higher taxes on the rich, giving women more control over their health care, and eliminating government subsidies for private cars. Do you consider those policies Marxist?

So now you're a Trump voter? That was a quick turnaround. What changed your mind? The Hur report?
 
So now you're a Trump voter? That was a quick turnaround. What changed your mind? The Hur report?
Donald Trump cut taxes on the rich and eliminated Roe v Wade. I’ve never heard Trump voice an opinion on walkable cities or mass transit, but President Biden increased funding for Amtrak so he gets my vote.
 
Donald Trump cut taxes on the rich and eliminated Roe v Wade. I’ve never heard Trump voice an opinion on walkable cities or mass transit, but President Biden increased funding for Amtrak so he gets my vote.

Lies.

The OMB proved that the Trump tax cuts were for the middle class and that taxes went UP for "the rich." Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you.

Trump tried to get congress to give him an INFRASTRUCTURE BILL which would have been used to improve our national mass transit and transportation systems. So you "never" hearing him voice an opinion on this issue is a straight up lie.

Amtrak is chronically always short of money even with Federal subsidies. Didn't you say you were against subsidies?

In the end you have a hate on against Trump and you refuse to see the truth or reason even if it requires that you lie to yourself and try to lie to others. The question that remains is; if you have to lie to yourself in order to hate someone because of their politics, what else do you lie to yourself about? The additional question which flows from that is; why?
 
Once upon a time GW and GHW Bush were the great leaders of the republican party leaders beyond reproach. I can understand this both were war time presidents and as such their popularity soared for a short time. However, they never became the demigod Reagan has become.

Reagan never lost his luster which is odd considering some Reagan’s policies were in direct contrast to what republicans as a party say they hold dear, but that’s a story for another time..

I also find it weird that when someone like Taylor Swift voices a political stance the party of Reagan, Trump, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent cry out, celebrities have no place in politics. But I digress.

Donald Trump a reality TV star who had absolutely no experience in politics, no concept of what this country stands for or what the Constitution is. Yet anyone republican from the Bush’s to McCain who disagrees with Trump is instantly labeled a rino or worst.

JFK is the closest thing democrats have as a demigod. Which is understandable a young president who ushered in the space age, was cut down far to soon leaving people to wonder what he could have accomplished if he lived. Basically he was killed before he had a chance to fuck up so he is golified.

Let me talk about other democrats I’ll start with Jimmy Carter arguable the worst modern democrat president. Yet is still beloved and admired by Americans of all parties because of his outstanding accomplishments after leaving office and more importantly his character as a man.. Carter’s efforts lead to the near-eradication of dracunculiasis, also called Guinea worm disease. The incidence of this disease has decreased from 3.5 million cases in the mid-1980s, to 25 cases in 2016, and 10 as of September 2021 according to the Carter Center's statistics. Which other president has helped eliminate a disease? Brokered several peace treaties? Not just said they were a Christian but lead a Christian life?

Bill Clinton a morally flawed man yet still is a great leader. He pushed for the internet to be expanded beyond the DoD and come into the home of every American. He was able to look past politics and lend a hand to the republicans when doing so would help his fellow Americans. Most democrats admire him for that. In fact because GW often enlisted Clinton and his father to use there unique experiences whenever he had a tricky diplomatic issue to solve or navigate..

Clinton and the Bush’s became so close that GHW Bush’s sons Jeb, GW, Neil referred to Bill as a brother by another mother. To which Bill said, “The only reason I’m so welcome by George and his brothers is because their mother wanted another president in the family.”, and Barbara Bush laughed.

To which Barbara quipped back, “Every family has one black sheep.”, and no one laughed harder than Bill and his brothers by another mother.

Now we come to Obama, and we all remember Michelle and GW sharing a cough drop and the eulogy of John McCain.. McCain the last of the real republicans. I still remember when McCain explained to a birthed that, “He is an American, a good family man, who I just have some fundamental political difference with.”

At that moment McCain was labeled a rino.. Whenever a democrat defends a republican or befriends a republican their fellow democrats didn’t disown Obama, Carter, Clinton they welcome it… They were not labeled a Dino.. So why whenever a republican merely disagree with which ever republican is popular at the time or heaven forbid they defend a democrat t hey are shunned and labeled a Rino? Why the stupid childish silly names?
Because nobody who isn't a radical mentally ill anti-American fanatic wants to be known as one.
 
Lies.

The OMB proved that the Trump tax cuts were for the middle class and that taxes went UP for "the rich." Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you.

Trump tried to get congress to give him an INFRASTRUCTURE BILL which would have been used to improve our national mass transit and transportation systems. So you "never" hearing him voice an opinion on this issue is a straight up lie.

Amtrak is chronically always short of money even with Federal subsidies. Didn't you say you were against subsidies?

In the end you have a hate on against Trump and you refuse to see the truth or reason even if it requires that you lie to yourself and try to lie to others. The question that remains is; if you have to lie to yourself in order to hate someone because of their politics, what else do you lie to yourself about? The additional question which flows from that is; why?
So much so she has to resort to lies and mount an escape from reality to maintain it.
 
So much so she has to resort to lies and mount an escape from reality to maintain it.

I have a new PC. On the task bar there is the Microsoft "news" tab. It's nearly always 2-3 days slow with "breaking news" and the information in the articles is obviously picked over so the result is slanted and biased.

But, if it's your only source of information because it's easy and simple to read the headlines from, you will repeat what you're being fed by the liars who produce that false propaganda.
 
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