Union busting

[REDWAVE]

SIN

We all seem to agree that the current leadership of the unions sells out the rank and file to management.

Americans don't want to do worker's jobs? Or is it the case that most of the good-paying, unionized worker's jobs have been destroyed (factories moved overseas) and replaced mainly with crappy, low-paying, "service sector" jobs (flipping burgers)? No wonder people don't want jobs like that!

It used to be in this country that a guy with only a high school education, or less even, but with a strong back, could go to work in a factory (or warehouse, etc.) and make a good living. He had to work his ass off, and often was a physical wreck before retirement time, but he could afford not only to support himself, but to raise a family in some degree of comfort, even send his kids to college, etc. And when he retired, he got a decent pension, one which he could count on. It didn't disappear in a stock market crash.

Those days are gone. Why is that, SINthysist?

 

[SINthysist]

Technology, robots and computers caught up with the workers and surpassed them...

As my Statistics teacher used to bemoan, "Where have you been for the last 15 years?"

 

[REDWAVE]

Missing the point

I know all about technology, robots, and computers. The issue is the destruction of good-paying jobs, and their replacement with low-paying jobs.

That has nothing to do with technology in itself. It has to do with society, and how technology is used.

 

[miles]

Re: Missing the point

I know all about technology, robots, and computers. The issue is the destruction of good-paying jobs, and their replacement with low-paying jobs.

That has nothing to do with technology in itself. It has to do with society, and how technology is used.

Don't worry redwave, Your job as Human Crud is safe.

 

[SINthysist]

We can't get Americans to take GOOD paying jobs at Fast Food Joints which pay more than say, Hospital Aides. Everybody studies to get a cool job or trade and most do.

It's not like the laid-off workers of America just throw their hands up, accept less, and wallow in their fate...

Most of them find something else, some other way, some other vocation. I've done it enough times. Rush Limbaugh brags about being fired from 6 jobs, all low-paying, until he found his groove. Now some people, just lazy, or stupid. All the good paying jobs in the world ain't gonna get them ahead because they spend money faster than a stripper at 3AM getting ready for hes/her turn to PARTAY!

Now I'll admit some people may be forced into lower paying jobs, but I'll still submit, this is America and you can get paid what you think you are worth if you just figure out how.

Take the next govenor of California, Arnold Swartzenegger. He arrived in America with a friend and began working in his family's traditional business brick-laying. In order to compete they kept charging less and less and kept getting poorer and poorer. In a flash of inspiration, they raised their prices, advertised as Specialty European Bricklayers, and the rest, the rest, my friend, is history...




You need to find what you can get for yourself by using this wonderful imagination of yours and going out and grabbing your peice of the American Dream and leave those Dreams of Trotsky to the real losers in the world (who seem to live in the UK for some reason...).

 

[HeavyStick]

Re: Let me guess

Middle management? Junior exec?

I hope you're not a lowly professional, like me.

You're an unemployed lawyer.... how the fuck can a lawyer be unemployed?

Ambulances broken down?

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

Re: Re: Let me guess

You're an unemployed lawyer.... how the fuck can a lawyer be unemployed?

Ambulances broken down?

 

[Markov Cain]

I never knew Arnold was a Democrat. Wait. Didn't he marry a Kennedy? Say it ain't so. Arnold, say it ain't so...