U.S loses another citizen to Islamic savagery

Today is also the anniversary of the death of Gerald Bull.

Inventor and Canadian.
 
nitelite33 said:
Today is also the anniversary of the death of Gerald Bull.

Inventor and Canadian.

talk about a weird life THAT guy had.
 
It's also the wedding anniversary for Napoleon and Josephine.
 
Yeah interesting fellow.

I'm sure Hanns would have loved him.
 
Never thought I would be posting on one of Hanns' threads but....

Abigale Litle


Posted on Fri, Mar. 07, 2003

Harrisonville couple share memories of granddaughter who died in Israeli bus bombing
By JOE ROBERTSON
The Kansas City Star


Abigale Litle


John and Blanche Litle know the street where their granddaughter died in a suicide bomber's blast.

The Harrisonville couple were there less than a year ago. They walked the narrow streets high above the Mediterranean Sea in the Israeli city of Haifa, which has been their eldest son's home since 1989.

They stayed three months, wanting to learn everything about their five grandchildren -- the schools they attended, the friends they made, the things they did for fun.

They know that Abigail, the second oldest, had grown to an energetic 14. She had highlighted her hair and let it grow to frame her hazel eyes and her smile. She liked to paint, go to movies with friends and cuddle kittens.

They know the street she traveled from school and the kind of public bus that brought her home.

Wednesday afternoon, a 20-year-old man boarded Abigail's bus and set off a bomb that left her among the 15 dead.

Blanche Litle can see it, and she cannot hold back her tears.

"Our sweet Abigail," she said.

It is the day after and friends drop by with warm meals, cards and hugs. John and Blanche Litle's two youngest children are there -- Steve Litle, 39, and Suzanne Barnett, 35.

They talk of their oldest brother, Phil, Abigail's father. He was the valedictorian of Harrisonville High School's Class of 1978, whose ambition and religious conviction carried him and his family so far away from home.

Of course, they talked about the dangers, the Litles said. But, as a family built around a strong Southern Baptist faith, they were not about to stand in the way of Phil and his plans to do Christian service.

Phil had a phrase he liked to repeat, Steve said.

"He said, `The safest place to be is the center of God's will.' "

Phil and his wife, Heidi, met while they were students at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where he studied mechanical engineering. Phil had determined by the ninth grade that he was going to do what it took to attend the elite school, Blanche Litle said.

Phil and Heidi's first son, Josiah, was not quite 2 and Abigail was an infant when they obtained a visa through the Southern Baptist Church and left for Israel 14 years ago.

The violence between Israelis and Palestinians never seemed to let up for long. Most of the time, the news of deadly bombs and counterattacks erupted from other towns.

But there were times when terror struck Haifa. The Litles would relay the news by phone and on the Internet, and they would wait for the all-safe call from Phil.

It was about 6 a.m. Wednesday in Harrisonville when the bomb struck. About 8 a.m., Suzanne saw the news on the Internet. The first note from Phil, arriving by e-mail soon after, said Abigail was missing.

Calls went out to friends and family. Prayer chains raced over the phone lines.

"But it's not like we started praying just in times of trouble," Suzanne said. "We've always held them in God's hand in prayer. He'd prepared all of us to have the strength."

Later in the day came the phone call they had dreaded. Phil had identified Abigail's body.

In the hours that followed, there would be many phone calls to Israel. They saw a tape of the eldest grandchild, 15-year-old Josiah, talking to a satellite news network.

The family had made its choice to live where they live, Josiah said. They were going to continue to live with the community of people who shared their neighborhood.

Blanche Litle watched him speak, and said, "I am proud of him."

There was no talk of the Litles in Israel coming back to the United States. That is where their home is. Abigail will be buried there Sunday.

"We just talked," Blanche Litle said, "about how we'll miss our sweet Abigail."

She does not want to get into the politics of hate. She only laments that so many of the killers and those who are killed are young, whatever the root of the anger.

She and her husband would rather look through pictures they took last summer.

There's Josiah, wearing the broad-brimmed hat of an adventurer, "a strong person," she says.

There's Abigail, ready to go to youth camp, a pack slung over one shoulder, and sleeping bag and pillow over the other. She is wearing sandals and smiling, not a hint of fear.

"Bad things are going to happen no matter where you are," Blanche Litle said. "You have to follow the desire of your heart that God has given you and trust him.

"Don't live your life in fear."
 
i once had a monkey, but then the monkey ran away.

i looked all over for me, but he was nowhere around.

finally, i sat down to cigarette and think to myself:

" if i was a monkey where the fuck would i be?"

then i realised i was high, so i went home.

i've never owned any goddamned monkey.
 
Fuck you to those of you who cannot be sympathetic toward the death of a 14 year old girl - even in one of Hanns's threads.
 
the correct word is empathy. we can't have sympathy. we've never been blown up.
 
Olivianna said:
Fuck you to those of you who cannot be sympathetic toward the death of a 14 year old girl - even in one of Hanns's threads.

i have a hard time feeling anything but the slightest remote interest in ANY of Hanns threads regardless of topic.
 
Olivianna said:
Fuck you to those of you who cannot be sympathetic toward the death of a 14 year old girl - even in one of Hanns's threads.

With me sympathy is a given...

If you think Hanns posted this out of any altruistic motive then... I just have nothing to say to that.
 
nitelite33 said:
You haven't read 'By Way of Deception' have you?

The book is bullshit.

Have you been to Israel? Have you met anyone who's been in Mossad? Don't place all of your belief in one book/source.
 
A buddy of mine who used to do plainclothes security on El Al recommended it to me...

He always told me there was no Mossad though. /shrug
 
Olivianna said:
The book is bullshit.

Have you been to Israel? Have you met anyone who's been in Mossad? Don't place all of your belief in one book/source.

Why would Israel censor bullshit?
 
nitelite33 said:
A buddy of mine who used to do plainclothes security on El Al recommended it to me...

He always told me there was no Mossad though. /shrug
No Mossad? What's that supposed to mean?

Pointless, I'm not going to split hairs with you over definitions, but trust me, 'sympathy' is all kosher in the manner that I used it above.
 
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