Trump fucks up again. Ukraine negotiation goes sideways

[BabyBoomer50s]

Trump being very blatantly pro-Putin....

US President Donald Trump does not want to provide security guarantees to Ukraine until the war is over. He noted that his priorities differ from those of Europe, Sky News informs. The news agency notes that while Ukraine is calling for security guarantees to reach a peace agreement, Trump says he wants the fighting to stop first. "Before I even think about that, I want to settle the war, get it finished... As far as the question about security later, that's the easy part. The hard part is getting it settled," said the US leader.

At the same time, when asked whether Russia is exploiting the US pause in providing aid and intelligence to Ukraine during its recent attacks, Trump said that, in his opinion, Russian President Vladimir Putin "is doing what anyone else would do." "I think he wants to get it stopped and settled, and I think he's hitting them (the Ukrainians - ed.) harder than he's been hitting them, and I think anybody in that position probably would be doing that right now," Trump remarked. Earlier today, President Trump stated that he continues to believe Putin wants to end the war against Ukraine.

Well, that's obvious. He's handicapping Ukraine and encouraging Putin to attack them - which he is - resulting in the murder of more Ukrainian civilians. So Trump now has even more blood on his hands and he's revelling in it. I would say that at this point, Ukraine is very aware of what they're up against, and very likely they're playing their own game here - their attacks in the Donbas are moving ahead after all. I suspect they'll string these negotiations along and see if anything concrete and acceptable comes out of them. They won't be any worse off than they are now and while Russia isn't acknowledging it publicly, they're in a tough position and its getting worse.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...S&cvid=041c34324c7f4f908d82e2fe690d0c52&ei=38

No US president has committed security guarantees to Ukraine.

 

[ll74]

No US president has committed security guarantees to Ukraine.

Trump has publicly supported Russia.

His views about Ukraine are based on that.

 

[ChloeTzang]

No US president has committed security guarantees to Ukraine.

Only guaranteed the 2014 borders. Clinton signed.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Only guaranteed the 2014 borders. Clinton signed.

Clinton signed a memorandum in 1994 with Russia, the UK & Northern Ireland. They promised to respect Ukraine’s independence and sovereignty, not to invade Ukraine, not to use nuclear weapons against Ukraine, and to seek UN Security Council support for the country if it’s attacked. Russia broke its commitment. The US and other signatories have honored their pledge.

No American president has ever guaranteed Ukraine’s security.

 

[ll74]

Clinton signed a memorandum in 1994 with Russia, the UK & Northern Ireland. They promised to respect Ukraine’s independence and sovereignty, not to invade Ukraine, not to use nuclear weapons against Ukraine, and to seek UN Security Council support for the country if it’s attacked. Russia broke its commitment. The US and other signatories have honored their pledge.

No American president has ever guaranteed Ukraine’s security.

Obviously the Ukrainians should capitulate to Russia without any security assurance now

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Obviously the Ukrainians should capitulate to Russia without any security assurance now

Depends on what the European countries are willing to do.

 

[RoryN]

Depends on what the European countries are willing to do.

Are you willing to not call others "racist" while you're one yourself?

BabyBoomer50s calling others "racist":

Keep defending your jew-hating pals you racist POS.

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/israel-hamas-pb-tribal-fight.1596886/post-98830842

Like many progressive Democrats, she is an unhinged racist.

https://forum.literotica.com/thread...-racist-comments-galore.1603711/post-98279471


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BabyBoomer50s being racist:

[Elizabeth Holms riots] Geez, the case hasn’t even gone to the jury and the rioters in CA are already looting the high end fashion stores. If the verdict goes the wrong way the streets of Walnut Creek, San Francisco, and LA could be filled with blondes in black turtlenecks. Not even going to guess how this would all go down if she were black.

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/elizabeth-holmes-riots.1556275/

 

[ll74]

Depends on what the European countries are willing to do.

No it doesn't

 

[MajorRewrite]

I hadn’t noticed that BabyBoom had fallen into line with the other pro-Russia MAGAs. I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised, he is a gullible MAGA sheep. Now we know he’s a spineless gullible MAGA sheep.

 

[jomar]

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Now don’t you worry one little bit about Musk, he’s gonna be just fine. Why as we speak some of those Starlink terminals are finding their way replacing some of that old tech the US air traffic controllers use. So with those European returns he can take over air traffic systems replace many more terminals faster.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I hadn’t noticed that BabyBoom had fallen into line with the other pro-Russia MAGAs. I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised, he is a gullible MAGA sheep. Now we know he’s a spineless gullible MAGA sheep.

Nope.

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ll74]

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Rumors are flying that Russia used our intelligence

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

Rumors are flying that Russia used our intelligence

Yep, and also cut Ukraine off. Unfortunately, all too believable.

And Trump is now stirring shit with Canada over the Canadian border.....Canada is taking it seriously. All those jokes about the USA invading Canada are no longer jokes. Trump's starting to see himself as Putin.

You have to ask yourself, if someone wanted to destroy the USA as a world superpower, what different would they do? Give it six months like this and the USA will have no allies left.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I think one of the Baltic states has already bailed on this too. Everybody's suddenly realizing that when you're fighting a REAL war you need to be practica about these things.

 

[dmallord]

Trump has not yet realized he has become either an obstacle or irrelevant to the Russia-Ukraine War as far as Ukraine is concerned.

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He speaks and does so often about himself in the third person. Who does that? Well, his niece would point out the narcissistic bastard does.

Just a glance at the wordology tells you that Trump didn't write this. It's literate, though just as stupid as his thoughts are.

Tell me how America goes in to mine minerals that are under Russian occupation at the moment. Trump would then enter a war because Americans are being threatened under that scenario?

Who the hell designed this lunatic space force battle strategy?

 

[ShandyLeer]

Zelensky should just do the minerals deal with China.

 

[Bn2f]

He speaks and does so often about himself in the third person. Who does that? Well, his niece would point out the narcissistic bastard does.

Just a glance at the wordology tells you that Trump didn't write this. It's literate, though just as stupid as his thoughts are.

Tell me how America goes in to mine minerals that are under Russian occupation at the moment. Trump would then enter a war because Americans are being threatened under that scenario?

Who the hell designed this lunatic space force battle strategy?

Zelensky should just do the minerals deal with China.

Ukraine should not do a minerals deal with anyone.
This is, at least, the 3rd time that I have seen this pertinent question asked and it will be the 3rd time that anyone supporting trump's Yalta foreign policy will fail to answer.

 

[Rotadom]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1897654155306545173

 

[dmallord]

And Trump has turned into an enemy of Ukraine

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Another sports figure is speaking on national defense. How long did he hold up those critical military appointments? Asshole.

 

[ChloeTzang]

He literally doesn't know, does he? He's asking because he doesn't know why Japan doesn't have a full military force. Someone has *got* to tell this guy about WW2.

Every time Trump opens his mouth on foreign policy he loses another ally and kick starts remilitarization around the world.

He really is a Black Swan event all by himself.

 

[ChloeTzang]

It seems numerous countries are now rethinking their F35 orders given the unreliabilityof the USA as an ally, and the America control over F35 software.