Trump fucks up again. Ukraine negotiation goes sideways

[Fuzzy1975]

There is a chronological order to my comments.

Bullshit. I can go grab more, by why bother? You'll just bake another pretzel.

We had a military advantage at the beginning, then Biden dragged his feet and the war became much more complicated and more difficult.

You had the advantage back with Obama, he fucked it up. Biden inherited what Trump didn't fix. Putin wait until Trump was out (similar to the Iranian hostages. The deal was done, but they wouldn't be released until Reagan was sworn in.) Then Putin pulled the pin.

You were bitching about Biden fucking it up since day one. Don't hand me this chronological order shit. You don't have facts, you have hate...

What's your remedy other than TDS.

What TDS? That's your bullshit. Go check my posts, find some TDS.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

There is a chronological order to my comments. We had a military advantage at the beginning, then Biden dragged his feet and the war became much more complicated and more difficult. What's your remedy other than TDS.

Here's a sample of your comments on Ukraine....read them, maybe refresh your memory on what exactly you posted.

He asked a valid question. He was simply questioning and comparing Biden’s interest in Ukraine’s border over our own.

I never suggested a war with China was inevitable, I merely stated we should be prepared should one happen. The burn rate on our weapons systems is excessive and requires close attention.

I'm all done! You are a Trump hater and nothing is going to change that. I've often said let the chips fall where they may. You don't want to assess criminal behavior by Obama and his cronies, instead you defend him to a fault. Biden extorted the Ukraine not Trump. There's new evidence about Shokin uncovering corruption while Hunter was on its board and you continue with your misguided beliefs. Trump was spot on, I believe Trump had evidence but had to maintain the appearance of neutrality with the DOJ.

Where was Mueller and his team? AWOL!! Braggs indictment is a sham. I'm going to buy my beer, pop some corn and watch the proceedings just like you. I don't believe Trump can get a fair trial in DC, whereas Sussmann was tried by a DC judge favorable to the defense and a tainted jury and he walked, kind of reminds you of OJ. If I were you I'd be concerned the direction out justice system is headed. Hating Trump should not be the foundation for justice, that pendulum can swings both ways. I read the lit Trump hating zealots who are more interested in jailing Trump than true justice, having no problem shelving equal protection and application of the law. There are lit posters that behave like a modern day lynch mob. The preponderance of the evidence from sworn testimony, bank records and IRS investigations would suggest that if an indictment could no be achieved then someone has there thumb on the scales, that would be weiss.

TOUGHER ON CHINA?? You're out of your mind!

Getting the rich to pay their fair share while his son is up to his eyeballs in a tax evasion scheme where there exist enough hard evidence to implicate DAD!!. A DOJ/ Delaware/ US attorney allowed felony charges to outrun the statute of limitation. Where's the outrage!

Stood up to Putin?? Biden got us into this proxy war. Putin would not have invaded the Crimean or Ukraine, funny both happened under democrat leadership.

Putin invaded the Crimea in 2014, when Biden was VP....Trump did fuck all to get him out....

If you believe those problems already exist why would you accept exacerbating a bad situation exponentially. Social institutions are being overwhelmed, using up precious resources that American taxpayers spend their hard earned money to provide for their family needs. No country on the planet allows such uncontrollable migration. We are a country like any other country with limited wealth and resources. 33 trillion in debt. Interest on the debt is equal to our total military budget, just try to put that in perspective. 140 billion spent on Ukraine for their security and billions more on illegal migrants. We are conflating generosity, altruism with foolhardiness. What Biden is doing is unsustainable.

You guys haven't spent 140 Billion yet....

Debt is debt. We’re not paying off our debt we’re increasing it by leaps and bounds. Our debt to GDP ratio for June 23 is 126 % of our GDP, our total debt to GDP ratio for the total of 2023 is 741%. What other countries have those numbers?

Our interest on the debt is as large as our defense budget. I don’t care what metric you use we are out of control. We also provide aid globally. If we’re going to provide aid to Ukraine and Israel then there needs to be an offset, just cant keep writing checks and adding to our debt. As altruistic as we like to be we can’t continue on this path.

Germany by comparison is only 66.3

When “ OLE TWO SCOOPS” took office the economy was surging back. All that moron had to do was sit in his basement, shut the fuck up and let things happen. Instead he waged war against fossil fuels causing gas prices to skyrocket, so for political reasons that moron emptied the SPRs to save his own skin from his stupid environmental policies.

Him and his commie friends in congress didn’t stop there. Had to push for huge spending bills adding too much liquidity to an already robust recovery, paying people to stay home from work, increasing inflation to 40 year highs. Again all he had to to was sit in his basement and take credit for a surge in the economy. Biden’s economic policies caused market shortages while increasing fuel prices on truckers which in turn lead to higher food shortages and prices.

Now that inflation increased to 40 year highs the feds had to increase interest rates at the fastest clip in history causing many banks to belly up and pretty much shut down the housing markets. Caused undo harm to middle America. Food and gas prices rose off the charts.

If I’m not mistaken thousands more people died from Covid under Biden’s watch than Trump’s and Biden had the vaccine to work with.

Then there’s Afghanistan, the most embarrassing stunt yet, showing weakness on the global stage, pissing of his allies for not consulting with them, pulling troops out before civilians, what fucking idiot would do that. That weakness gave Putin the green light to invade Ukraine. He also slid millions of dollars to Palestinians and for that move Israel was reward with a barrage of missiles.

The JCPOA was a delusion concept from its inception and Biden kept it going to get an attaboy from his old boss.

If the economy is finally making a comeback it’s in spite if Biden not because of Biden.

Yes you sure don't like Biden.....but you love Trump. Should I get some of those posts?

 

[Deleted member 1215945]

At least Zelensky would have gotten a blowjob.

Yea Lance and MAGAt is blowing Putin.

 

[RoryN]

Trump orders pause on military aid to Ukraine in the wake of last week’s Oval Office clash with Zelenskyy​

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ine-wake-last-weeks-oval-office-cl-rcna194627

 

[rainsol]

Fuck The MAGAt NAZI and his butt boy J.D. those fuckers embarrass me as a U.S.citizen. FAFO MAGAts. Should have been Harris.

The embarrassment is the entire democrat leadership. What a fucking idiot you are. That cocksucker from the Ukraine has balls of steel though, going up against Russia with no help from the USA. He is as dumb as you dims. Well as Trump said they are going to have to go it alone because the EU is not going to deliver.

 

[rainsol]

Yea Lance and MAGAt is blowing Putin.

You silly dims need to scrap MSNBC and CNN as a news source.

 

[Politruk]

The embarrassment is the entire democrat leadership.

What have they got to do with this?

 

[RoryN]

FUCKING IDIOT...COCKSUCKER...

^^^
Another day, another Deplorable who's, for some reason, full of anger at a time they shouldn't be.

I guess their lives just suck in general. (But we knew this.)

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The embarrassment is the entire democrat leadership. What a fucking idiot you are. That cocksucker from the Ukraine has balls of steel though, going up against Russia with no help from the USA. He is as dumb as you dims. Well as Trump said they are going to have to go it alone because the EU is not going to deliver.

lol....angry even when you're winning, or at least think you're winning....Rory's nailed it....
"Show us on the doll where the world fucked you over".

 

[eric_erosfan]

What can I say. If Trump does this, he's the biggest traitor since Benedict Arnold. Guess I'll have to hold my nose and vote Democrat in 2028.

And I know, I know, you told me so. No need to rub it in further. If Trump does this, that's beyond the pale. Never believed he would do anything like this, but if he does, well, I've always voted GOP but THIS is a game changer for me.

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Anyone who doesn't bow before him and say he is the greatest President of all time faces this kind of tantrum. He is the worst kind of narcissistic man-baby. If you are starting to recognize this, maybe there is hope.

 

[Lazaran]

Trump orders pause on military aid to Ukraine in the wake of last week’s Oval Office clash with Zelenskyy​

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ine-wake-last-weeks-oval-office-cl-rcna194627

At what point do our truly patriotic military leaders and statesmen step in and remove that traitorous orange POS.

Enough already.

 

[eric_erosfan]

At what point do our truly patriotic military leaders and statesmen step in and remove that traitorous orange POS.

Enough already.

Fuck, I'd be happy if Congress voted on this. Is this something Congress agrees with? The United States is not Trump.

 

[coati]

At what point do our truly patriotic military leaders and statesmen step in and remove that traitorous orange POS.

Enough already.

The Traitor-in-Chief is rapidly firing patriotic military leaders, and there is no critical mass of statespersons left in the GOP majority.

We are facing a major crash in the USA.

 

[Lazaran]

Fuck, I'd be happy if Congress voted on this. Is this something Congress agrees with? The United States is not Trump.

Yeah, like this cowardly republican congress is going to suddenly grow a spine and stand up to DonOld on something that has become a matter of saving orange “face”.



I honestly believe that by the time the situation deteriorates to the point where EVERYBODY (even common MAGAts) agrees that “hey, maybe re-electing a corrupt orange traitor was a bad idea”, Ukraine, the economy, and America’s alliances will be so fucked that there will be no coming back. (I hope I’m wrong).



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[ChloeTzang]

At what point do our truly patriotic military leaders and statesmen step in and remove that traitorous orange POS.

Enough already.

I was just about to post that it may seriously be time to impeach him and Vance. He's gone nuts. When you look at everything he's doing, he's destroying every alliance we have, he's going to spark world-wide economic chaos, he's pissimg on Canada and the UK - our closest allies and friends - just about the only country he hasn't turning on is Australia and he'll probably get to them soon. That, and he's pressuring Zelensky, the victim, not Putin the aggressor. Sick sick sick.

Europe needs to get their frigging act into gear, back Ukraine to the hilt and just tell Trump to fuck right off.

Cutting off military aid to Ukraine at a crucial turning point - actively working to sabotage Ukraine and assist Putin....this is blatantly attacking Ukraine
https://www.asiaone.com/world/trump-halts-all-us-military-aid-ukraine-white-house-official-says

Trump is planning sanctions relief for Russia - seriously!
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/03...ng-russian-sanctions-relief-proposal-reuters/

Germany rightly believes Trump/Vance attack on Zelensky was a put-up job
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/03...p-zelensky-clash-was-manufactured-escalation/

Trump saying Zelensky won't be around long - so he's planning to do Putin's job for him?
https://www.newarab.com/news/trump-pauses-ukraine-aid-says-zelensky-wont-be-around-long

And now he's attacking Starmer over Ukraine - busy alienating the UK
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ump-keir-starmer-ukraine-tirade-b2708208.html

Starting a trade war with the best neighbor any country could have - Canada - and continuing to insult them with the 51st State bullshit to the extend Canadians are booing down the US National Anthem every time its played - and my Canadian friends have stopped buying anything sourced from the US
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/tariffs-impact-industries-1.7448461

Ontario Premier Doug Ford is threatening to stop nickel shipments to the US
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/busines...p-nickel-shipments-to-us-on-eve-of-trade-war/

Canada is preparing retaliatory measures.....25% tariffs on imports from the USA
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/world/canada/canada-trump-tariffs.html

Doesn't get much worse than this. Jeeze, do I have a case of "what the fuck did I vote for!"

 

[DeluxAuto]

I agree. This is about the funniest thing you’ve said here! Good job.

Intentionally.

He's usually unintentionally funny as fuck.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Fuck, I'd be happy if Congress voted on this. Is this something Congress agrees with? The United States is not Trump.

Congress voted for continued support for Ukraine, despite Republican opposition and delays. Doddering Donnie is flexing his dictatorial powers by refusing to follow Congress’ lead.

This is the second time Trump has tried to extort Ukraine. He really is a piece of shit.

 

[ChloeTzang]

And Trump has turned into an enemy of Ukraine

 

[Deleted member 1215945]

I was just about to post that it may seriously be time to impeach him and Vance. He's gone nuts. When you look at everything he's doing, he's destroying every alliance we have, he's going to spark world-wide economic chaos, he's pissimg on Canada and the UK - our closest allies and friends - just about the only country he hasn't turning on is Australia and he'll probably get to them soon. That, and he's pressuring Zelensky, the victim, not Putin the aggressor. Sick sick sick.

Europe needs to get their frigging act into gear, back Ukraine to the hilt and just tell Trump to fuck right off.

Cutting off military aid to Ukraine at a crucial turning point - actively working to sabotage Ukraine and assist Putin....this is blatantly attacking Ukraine
https://www.asiaone.com/world/trump-halts-all-us-military-aid-ukraine-white-house-official-says

Trump is planning sanctions relief for Russia - seriously!
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/03...ng-russian-sanctions-relief-proposal-reuters/

Germany rightly believes Trump/Vance attack on Zelensky was a put-up job
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/03...p-zelensky-clash-was-manufactured-escalation/

Trump saying Zelensky won't be around long - so he's planning to do Putin's job for him?
https://www.newarab.com/news/trump-pauses-ukraine-aid-says-zelensky-wont-be-around-long

And now he's attacking Starmer over Ukraine - busy alienating the UK
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ump-keir-starmer-ukraine-tirade-b2708208.html

Starting a trade war with the best neighbor any country could have - Canada - and continuing to insult them with the 51st State bullshit to the extend Canadians are booing down the US National Anthem every time its played - and my Canadian friends have stopped buying anything sourced from the US
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/tariffs-impact-industries-1.7448461

Ontario Premier Doug Ford is threatening to stop nickel shipments to the US
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/busines...p-nickel-shipments-to-us-on-eve-of-trade-war/

Canada is preparing retaliatory measures.....25% tariffs on imports from the USA
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/world/canada/canada-trump-tariffs.html

Doesn't get much worse than this. Jeeze, do I have a case of "what the fuck did I vote for!"

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[Lazaran]

I was just about to post that it may seriously be time to impeach him and Vance. He's gone nuts. When you look at everything he's doing, he's destroying every alliance we have, he's going to spark world-wide economic chaos, he's pissimg on Canada and the UK - our closest allies and friends - just about the only country he hasn't turning on is Australia and he'll probably get to them soon. That, and he's pressuring Zelensky, the victim, not Putin the aggressor. Sick sick sick.

Europe needs to get their frigging act into gear, back Ukraine to the hilt and just tell Trump to fuck right off.

Cutting off military aid to Ukraine at a crucial turning point - actively working to sabotage Ukraine and assist Putin....this is blatantly attacking Ukraine
https://www.asiaone.com/world/trump-halts-all-us-military-aid-ukraine-white-house-official-says

Trump is planning sanctions relief for Russia - seriously!
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/03...ng-russian-sanctions-relief-proposal-reuters/

Germany rightly believes Trump/Vance attack on Zelensky was a put-up job
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/03...p-zelensky-clash-was-manufactured-escalation/

Trump saying Zelensky won't be around long - so he's planning to do Putin's job for him?
https://www.newarab.com/news/trump-pauses-ukraine-aid-says-zelensky-wont-be-around-long

And now he's attacking Starmer over Ukraine - busy alienating the UK
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ump-keir-starmer-ukraine-tirade-b2708208.html

Starting a trade war with the best neighbor any country could have - Canada - and continuing to insult them with the 51st State bullshit to the extend Canadians are booing down the US National Anthem every time its played - and my Canadian friends have stopped buying anything sourced from the US
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/tariffs-impact-industries-1.7448461

Ontario Premier Doug Ford is threatening to stop nickel shipments to the US
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/busines...p-nickel-shipments-to-us-on-eve-of-trade-war/

Canada is preparing retaliatory measures.....25% tariffs on imports from the USA
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/world/canada/canada-trump-tariffs.html

Doesn't get much worse than this. Jeeze, do I have a case of "what the fuck did I vote for!"

Welcome back from the wilderness.

I may never understand why you went off into the wilderness in the first place (though I have my suspicions), and I will never understand why you felt the need to call Chicago “Chicongo”, but I welcome you back for as long as it lasts.

Sincerely,

A pragmatic progressive pro-2A, anti-ammosexual, anti-fascist, anti-racist, pro-Israeli, pro-Arab (especially Arab women) human rights, pro-human right in general, pro-truth / facts, pro-science, pro-environmental protections, pro-choice, pro-fair taxation AND compensation, atheist humanist patriotic Democrat.

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

Trump is beyond disgusting. The only thing that makes sense is that he's a Russian agent.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Oh yeah, these tariffs on Canada are gonna work just fine......

 

[Lazaran]

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MEGA > MAGA

 

[Cat]

Wow.. So, it is kinda crazy to wake to these kinds of news:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ukraine-white-house-official-says-2025-03-04/

No more USA military aid for Ukraine... Until Ukraine does.. what exactly?