Things I hate to do..

[TN_Vixen]

Does it send the wrong message to women everywhere when I...
-Won't learn how to change a tire because I think someone else could do it for me?
-....change my oil for the same reason?
-like to have my door opened for me, or my chair pulled out before I sit down to dinner?
-Have the man kill the bug?
-Refuse to pressure wash my deck?
-wear short skirts to client office where older men are the supervisors because I know I'm more likely to get the account?
-smile pretty and compliment men to get my way?
-think showing my tits to an officer to get out of a ticket isn't such a bad thing? -although I don't think I'd have the "balls" to do it.
-tell men I'm a good cook, and mean it?

---I could go on and on, and I consider myself and independent, strong, attractive, intelligent woman. Bring it on.

 

[Deborah]

Makes sense to me, TN_Vixen, and welcome to the board!

I hate to play golf and talk sports, but it seems to me to be more effective than getting an MBA to get ahead in the business world, ruled by people who would rather golf and talk sports than hear about the law of diminishing returns and the marginal theory of productivity.

Showing a little leg doesn't hurt either as you pointed out.

 

[TN_Vixen]

Thanks for the welcome. smile.

My cousin (female) recently learned how to play golf to get ahead in the workplace. God, pleaaaaase don't say I have to do that? laughing...

And as far as sports is concerned.. well, I'll talk football to a certain extent and then I'm OVER it. The Olympics are another story, however.

The leg gets 'em every time. *wink*

 

[Deborah]

I look at it this way, TN_Vixen, you either play with the boys or you get to be the designated driver, pilot the golf cart and pass out the beers.

 

[CreamyLady]

Not necessarily a wrong message, TN_Vixen. It just sends a message.

Welcome.

 

[*Eve*]

I don't blame you Vixen, why do it when you can get someone to do it for you. I know that liberated women everywhere would lynch me but I can't count the number of times playing the vacant female role has gotten me out of situtaions or gotten some one to do something for me. It has it's uses.

 

[Expertise]

Welcome. There is nothing wrong with being that way. However, even if you don't "do it" you should have the ability to do it. If only to strengthen your position.

BTW. Its been my experience that short skirts will get you through the office door, but actualy work against you when it comes to getting a "fair hearing". You had better have a head that works well somewhere above that high hemline or your short skirt will have done you very little good in my office.

Anyway welcome, have fun.

 

[willow]

I think both sexes do stuff like that. My b/f is a cutie & sometimes he uses his charm to get out of something. He got out of a speeding ticket by flirting shamelessly with the lady cop. He can charm a waitress like no one I have ever seen & we both pay someone to change the oil. We both know how to do most of those things, but is just easier to let someone else to do it. I think Expertise called it right on the office. The short skirt may have gotten me inside the door for the interview, but knowing how to do the job & do it well helped more in the long-run.

Welcome to the board TN_Vixen from a relative newbie. Have fun!

 

[Guest]

Yeah right Expertise.

I guess you missed the theme of "Basic Instinct."

 

[Expertise]

I guess i'm just not a complete slave to testosterone Ms. Stone. Even though I far too often give that impression.

BTW. It woulda' looked better shaved. Hee hee hee.

 

[Bliss]

Since when do adults base their real life sexuality on cheesy tramp serial killer movies?

Hey, Ex, I was only teasin' ya about weekends, ya know!

 

[*Eve*]

BTW. It woulda' looked better shaved. Hee hee hee.

LOL

 

[Sonora]

I have no desire to know how to change my oil. I figure as long as I'm willing to pay someone $17 to do it for me, why should I go to the trouble of getting the tools and oil, mess of changing it, and the hassle of properly disposing of the used oil and filter. Not to mention that my driveway is stone and I have no garage. Consider it my contribution to the American economy.

 

[Expertise]

As long as you remember that knowledge is power. Even if it used to get you burned at the stake.

Hell, I don't change my own oil, confronted with a female exec. I will flirt and charm my ass off...

As long as you aren't using your looks/charm or cash as a crutch for failings in other areas what the heck.

I will say this, and be forewarned you may not like it or for that matter give a damn. But even if a person hated doing the things you mentioned, I would respect them more for their ability to do them if necessay, even if they chose not to.

My $0.02

 

[Weird Harold]

Does it send the wrong message to women everywhere when I...
-Won't learn how to change a tire because I think someone else could do it for me?

I don't think you send a "wrong message" on any of the others, but changing a tire is something you should be able to do. Tires don't always go flat when there is someone around to help.

Both my daughters learned how to change a tire and check the oil and water as a prerequisite to learning how to drive.

Now mind you, playing the "dumb innocent" is still allowed, but you really should know how it's done. Just because you can doesn't mean you should get dirty and break your nails if there is a man around.

 

[TN_Vixen]

First of all, I agree with the comment about having to have the brains to back up the legs. *smile* Absolutely. No question about that. Next, it woulda looked better shaved. *s* And, I know the basics about both changing the tire and the oil, I just won't do it!

 

[Expertise]

All is right with the world then....

You're good to go Vixen

 

[Gingersnap]

Hey Welcome TN Vixen. Nope I look at it like this I know how to do it. I just wouldn't ever want to do it. I would watch basketball then football and as for golf I play but I have not mastered the fine art to it. Welcome and have a good time

 

[WriterDom]

I can teach you how to play golf. Or you can just drive the cart and drink wine.

 

[Cheyenne]

I hate to do most of the same things you do- but add cleaning the house. My contribution to the economy is to hire others to do some of this stuff for me to give me more time to spend at Lit. Oh wait, that was supposed to be more personal time away from work.

As for golf, I've played maybe 5 or 6 times in my life at golf outings and I hate it. I have no interest in learning and wasting that many hours on a golf course when I could be at Lit. I mean, I could be doing something else with my free time. While golf is definitely popular at the exec level, I still refuse to play. While people have told me my lack of golf skills will hurt my career, so far they have been wrong and I'm over 20 years into my career. If it was going to be a huge drawback, I'd probably have noticed by now.

 

[Expertise]

Losers sometimes win

I have found it beneficial to minimize my skill at golf (not that I am particularly gifted anyway) on occassion. People/clients/higher-ups like to win. As long as you don't look obvious or patronizing in letting them "eat your lunch".

I can be such a suck sometimes