Size does matter

[Sweetdreams71]

I don't think men are going to quit worrying or being interested in the size issue any time soon. It's an easily measurable and comparable body part that we are quite attached to and fond of.

I'm sure in certain circles some women are very forthcoming with one another on the subject, but I don't think it's the norm we might imagine. Similar to LMWM above, my wife has told me it has never once come up with her friends at any point in her life. I'll admit she's probably a bit more conservative than most, but she doesn't live under a rock either.

Men worry about about size cause they are visual, why do you think now with the Internet women use filters, surgery, Botox, fake everything.. so they can catch someone's eye..
Men feed into this craze by supporting it with continuous use of watching and paying. " I bought the wife bigger tits" only fans subscription, the list goes on

 

[nostuff]

What I find so hilarious about this thread is that it's mostly guys who are answering for women (including your's truly).

And why are you torturing yourselves over this "size" issue when there is very little that can done about it apart from expensive (and often deforming) surgery? And why stop at asking just about size? Who knows, maybe women are more concerned with other aspects of its appearance - ie., straight rather than bent shaft, smooth rather than veiny, and a nice head that's in perfect proportion to the shaft, rather than a small pointy one, etc.. Or maybe that it's the same width the entire length rather than shaped like damn sweet potato... Come to think of it, DON'T ask these questions because you can't do anything about those things, either!

It's also kinda of interesting that women have said time and again that a big dick can be uncomfortable, yet this doesn't seem to deter guys from wanting one. ..Which means they idealize a dick that causes causes women discomfort during sex. Gee, nothing misogynist or dysfunctional about that, eh?

I'm going to agree with you, then I'll disagree.

First, I agree that size doesn't matter. Yes, I want my lover to be well hung, but size is rarely the first available data point. Even at a bathhouse, men tend to cloak themselves in a towel, so their size is a mystery. We use other criteria instead in initiating a hookup. Face, body, personality: These are all factors we consider before we get to see the equipment.

And if you're looking for something more than a quick fuck, personality is so much more important than any physical attribute. I don't care how big the cock or how beautiful the tits, I don't want to share my bed with a jerk -- male or female.

Yes, you are absolutely correct that size doesn't matter. There is so much more to consider.

And yet ...

A big cock is simply awe inspiring. The mere sight takes my breath away, and it is thrilling to feel the heft as I wrap my hand around the shaft. And though I might be shallow, I love the sensation as the head pushes past my lips and into my throat. Though I can enjoy a smaller cock as well, the sensation just isn't the same.

And I want that big cock even if I can't take the whole thing. My biggest so far was at a bathhouse a couple years ago in Atlanta. My lover's body was not especially big, though he was well built and fit. But when he dropped his towel, he revealed a marvelous cock. Big and thick, with a nicely sculpted head. He could have been a porn star, and I was overcome by lust.

As my lover lay down on the bunk, I knelt down between his legs and caressed the shaft. Once he was hard, I opened my mouth and leaned forward, determined to swallow as much of that meat as I could. Even when I began to choke, I pushed further and further. I wanted it all. Alas, I couldn't do it. He was just too much, but I loved every bit of it.

Does size matter? There is so much more to consider in a man, especially if you're looking for a relationship. But a big cock really is special. And for anybody who is so inclined, I highly recommend the experience.

 

[nostuff]

It bears further research I think.

I vote in favor of further research.

 

[LMWM321]

I'm going to agree with you, then I'll disagree.

We're debating whether or not size is a significant consideration for women when choosing a male partner. I've not weighed in on how gay/bi men feel about it - I've not seen any research on the subject nor do I have any persona experience with it (I am heterosexual).

Read the OP. ..This thread is about how WOMEN feel about the Bigger Is Better trope.

 

[nostuff]

We're debating whether or not size is a significant consideration for women when choosing a male partner. I've not weighed in on how gay/bi men feel about it - I've not seen any research on the subject nor do I have any persona experience with it (I am heterosexual).

Read the OP. ..This thread is about how WOMEN feel about the Bigger Is Better trope.

Actually, the OP wrote: "Love to hear from others especially other girls."

But if we go with your interpretation, why are you posting?

 

[Justplainjeff]

It has become very correct to say size really does not matter. I don't believe that. I think it's a way of making average and less endowed men feel not so inadequate. It has become part of the hypocrisy of correctness to propagate this. Ask any girl who enjoys sex with men, and she will confirm size does matter. After all sexual congress is an invasive process and the female body is naturally built for the intrusion of the phallus. So we do get most of our pleasure by the thrusting hardness of our lover's hardness and fullness. Don't get me wrong. It's not the only thing that matters. Technique and attitude also have a lot to do. But size is the most important. Love to hear from others especially other girls.

Its not the size of the wand, but its the magic it can bring!

 

[LMWM321]

Actually, the OP wrote: "Love to hear from others especially other girls."

But if we go with your interpretation, why are you posting?

I'm not saying you shouldn't be responding to the post, I'm just pointing out that the OP seems to be referring to heterosexual PIV sex.

And I made it clear early on in the thread that I'm a man which, to be honest, is probably true of half the people at Lit claiming to be women.

Anyway... your input is as valuable as anyone's, so long as we're talking about the same thing.

As for my personal interest in the topic? Well, as I've pointed out countless times times in various threads, I have a HUGE dick, even by Porn standards. ..It's 8 1/8" long (properly measured) and 6 1/4" thick, from base to tip. ..And it has NEVER been any kind of an advantage with my sex partners. PIV can be uncomfortable, Oral is generally painful for her with teeth scraping for me, and Anal is mostly a non-starter. And I've had one-night stands say, "Sorry, but it's just a handjob for you tonight - that's gonna be too uncomfortable."

Soooo... I'm still wanting for SOMEONE to tell me why, if a big dick is so preferable, it NEVER appears in lists of woman's top sexual fantasies AND why women buy mostly average sized dildos?

 

[Escierto]

I'm not saying you shouldn't be responding to the post, I'm just pointing out that the OP seems to be referring to heterosexual PIV sex.

And I made it clear early on in the thread that I'm a man which, to be honest, is probably true of half the people at Lit claiming to be women.

Anyway... your input is as valuable as anyone's, so long as we're talking about the same thing.

As for my personal interest in the topic? Well, as I've pointed out countless times times in various threads, I have a HUGE dick, even by Porn standards. ..It's 8 1/8" long (properly measured) and 6 1/4" thick, from base to tip. ..And it has NEVER been any kind of an advantage with my sex partners. PIV can be uncomfortable, Oral is generally painful for her with teeth scraping for me, and Anal is mostly a non-starter. And I've had one-nigh stand hookups say, "Sorry, but it's just a handjob for you tonight - that's gonna be too uncomfortable."

I'm still wanting for SOMEONE to tell why, if a big dick is so preferable, it NEVER appears in lists of woman's top fantasies AND why women buy mostly average sized dildos?

It's a lonely job being the voice of reason. On another thread a bunch of guys were complaining about being 5 to 6 inches and having small dicks.

 

[LMWM321]

It's a lonely job being the voice of reason. On another thread a bunch of guys were complaining about being 5 to 6 inches and having small dicks.

Sooo redic. If only they focused more of their attention on their vibe than on the dimensions of their dick, they'd have wayyy more and wayyy happier sex partners, I'm sure.

 

[nostuff]

That said... I'm still wanting for SOMEONE to tell me why, if a big dick is so preferable, it NEVER appears in lists of woman's top sexual fantasies AND why women buy mostly average sized dildos?

I suppose I would want to see your scientific credentials before I accept your claim of "NEVER." And such absolute statements seem to be undercut by the original post and subsequent posts in this thread stating that some women prefer a big cock. There are plenty of posts throughout Lit as well from women who have very positive comments about well endowed men. I can even point out that my wife's favorite vibrator is substantially larger than my penis.
I might also note your statement that, "women mostly buy average sized dildos," not all.

But I would say the core problem with your position is that you apparently want to exclude any testimony from women who prefer a big penis. They say it is so, and you reply that there is no evidence to support their opinion. I say a big cock is really fun, and you dismiss me because I'm not a woman. You say your big cock is a problem, then you extrapolate your single data point into a universal statement.

Let me pose a different perspective, that women are complex and diverse. Some want tall men, others want short. Some want billionaires, some are happy with middle class or even poor. Some choose men with small or average equipment, and some want really big.

The proof that being big is not necessarily a problem is the existence of men with big equipment. Because if there were no women wanting big dicks, millions of years of evolution would have by now eliminated those men.

And so, I would answer your "scientific" question by saying big dicks are preferable to some women, but not all (just as some men prefer big breasts while some prefer small). And though there are probably a host of evolutionary and psychological reasons, I would take them at their word when women say a big cock just feels better. And I happen to find it fun to see the diversity of their opinions.

I can also attest, based on personal experience, that a big cock really is fun.

Oh, and for the record: I've never posted as a woman here or anywhere else.

 

[LMWM321]

Let me pose a different perspective, that women are complex and diverse. Some want tall men, others want short. Some want billionaires, some are happy with middle class or even poor. Some choose men with small or average equipment, and some want really big.

Well... Of course.. That goes without saying

And yes, my sharing my own experience of having a huge dick amounts to little more than an anecdotal account of 1 person. But I never said it was more than that. Indeed, I just pointed out a few posts ago that it merely explains my interest in the subject.

But there have been studies on this - eg., a study where women are presented with phalluses of various sizes and told to chose their preferred size. And there are statistics on what size dildo women generally buy. And both of these point in the same direction: That women generally prefer an average size penis. And there HAVE been Top Female Sex Fantasies published in Vogue, Cosmopolitan and Oprah, and other periodicals..and in NONE of them does "Big Dick" appear in the list, even if the study lists the top 25. . That's all that I'm saying. Yes, there will of course be outliers, like those we hear from on Lit. Again, that's obvious.

And heterosexual women's penis preferences may not be the same as Gay mens. ..So, that matters as well.

And the myth that women crave a giant penis may seem like harmless fun, but it's not. There's scores of men out there suffering from body dysmorphia because porn has convinced them that REAL men have 7+" dicks and REAL woman are disappointed with anything smaller. ..And this trope is even worse for young black men who think their penis should be even bigger - even though several studies indicate they are NOT bigger.

 

[Bbl87]

It's a lonely job being the voice of reason. On another thread a bunch of guys were complaining about being 5 to 6 inches and having small dicks.

It's definitely a perception that porn hasn't helped. What alot of guys think is the norm vs what actually is can be a pretty wide divide.

And, the almost solitary focus on length too. I spent my entire life thinking I was average at best generally, only to find out in my 30's I'm on the large end of average length wise and quite large girth wise.

 

[CuMex1]

My wife has a rather big ass, over 40 inches. Im on the smaller side of average size wise and certain positions can be a hindrance in regards to getting max penetration. I would benefit if I had a penis that was 2 or 3 inches longer. With that said it hasn't been the end all be all. We do lots of oral and have brought in a penis sleeve and toys in the bedroom.

 

[butters]

Most women do not enjoy gagging on a dick
If a guy's cock is above 6", I think you'll find the majority of women normally place one hand round the shaft before putting it in her mouth so she's not feeling like she's about to puke her ring with each forward movement. ESPECIALLY if you have a strong gag reflex! There is NOTHING sexy for me and women I know about being forced to gag, with watering eyes and runny nose because of it. Nothing! And then there are those girls and women with little to no gag reflex that can swallow a big cock whole without batting an eyelash.

About preferences in general: they're as varied as there are people, and every woman's vagina is not exactly the same size, elasticity, sensitivity, ability to accept size as the next's. A woman who may be small on the outside might have a vagina that appreciates a big cock; just as potentially she may only find a small one comfortable. Same as an outwardly large woman might be small to average for cock preference, or just as well be a size-queen! Guys cannot tell by looking at a woman's appearance; they'll only find out by either listening to her (if she knows, herself) or by their shared intimate relationship. If you imagine a guy with a 'horse' sized cock trying to have intercourse with an internally rabbit-sized vagina (yes, they're very accommodating but there are limitations), neither are likely to feel happy afterwards. And don't try to match up a small-sized cock with a vagina that feels a deep need to be stretched and stretched and filled beyond normal capacity.

Size matters: the best chemistry (on a purely physical level) of sexual experience comes from a matching up of the sex-organ sizes—compatibility is key. And that can also change over time: aging can make vaginal skin tear easily, so what was once a delight (girth) can become a painful experience without masses of lube. Yes, I speak from experience of both girth and size. Men should absolutely quit being so fucking obsessed with their genitalia because women tend to find all manner of other things important when it comes to finding their partners sexy, and cock size isn't high on the list.

 

[lil_pete]

In my opinion, size absolutely matters. What I see some posting here missing, is the fact that even if a person picks an average sized dildo, or prefers an average sized penis, that's a preference. The size of it matters, whether it's small, medium or large. Everybody is different. Everyone has preferences.

I know you're trying to argue against the point I'm making but to me, this is a very wordy way of saying size matters. It's not the only factor, but it's probably in the top three.

Have to agree with you... Some time back a woman said this in conservation, "if penis size didn't matter it wouldn't be a thing... Now would it?"
Ah simplicity at it's best.

 

[OneEyedSteve]

This topic is funny because, as what I consider to be a decidedly average sized man, I've had a significant number of one night stands say I'm the best they've ever had. They've no reason to lie, because we both knew it was a one off thing. And I've had quite a bit of action from women telling their friends about me. I guess that means I'm just a pure bred sex god

 

[KimberlyG]

Well, I might as well jump in here and offer up my 2 cents on this age old topic of size. The reality is... variety is what's important. Every man that has been inside me, and there hasn't been that many, has felt different. His dick feels different, the way he uses it is different, his personality, attitude and the way he uses what he has and how he makes love to me is what's important. I could get into surveys that say 4 to 6 is the preferred size but that has been covered here already. Let's talk about variety and how that is what is important. I mean, for me, shape can be awesome, a nice curved dick feels so good and can really hit my special spot. Or, a big mushroom head, oh my! A nice fat dick stretching me and pleasuring me, mmm yes. Oh, and now to length size, there are some sex positions where length is important. Those special, acrobatic type positions where length is of paramount importance. Guys, just chill, learn to use the tool you have. I guarantee you that 90%, or more, of women will be thrilled with what you have if you use it well. I mean, guys, you can have the biggest and best tool there is but if you can't use it properly, it doesn't matter. I have had 4 and I have had 8, it's all about the guy himself.

 

[Penus_Flytrap]

Well, I might as well jump in here and offer up my 2 cents on this age old topic of size. The reality is... variety is what's important. Every man that has been inside me, and there hasn't been that many, has felt different. His dick feels different, the way he uses it is different, his personality, attitude and the way he uses what he has and how he makes love to me is what's important. I could get into surveys that say 4 to 6 is the preferred size but that has been covered here already. Let's talk about variety and how that is what is important. I mean, for me, shape can be awesome, a nice curved dick feels so good and can really hit my special spot. Or, a big mushroom head, oh my! A nice fat dick stretching me and pleasuring me, mmm yes. Oh, and now to length size, there are some sex positions where length is important. Those special, acrobatic type positions where length is of paramount importance. Guys, just chill, learn to use the tool you have. I guarantee you that 90%, or more, of women will be thrilled with what you have if you use it well. I mean, guys, you can have the biggest and best tool there is but if you can't use it properly, it doesn't matter. I have had 4 and I have had 8, it's all about the guy himself.

I agree.

 

[LMWM321]

Size matters: the best chemistry (on a purely physical level) of sexual experience comes from a matching up of the sex-organ sizes—compatibility is key.

Well said...

And the studies on this are pretty clear: That something like 85% of women are happy with the size of their partner's penis so compatibility of size, as you so put it, is virtually assured between every man and every woman. Yes, there are outliers - but for most women, average or nearly, is just fine. And don't forget that SOME of those who are unhappy with their partners size are unhappy because it's too big - so there's that, too.

Part of what we see here in Lit is that many men project "big cock love" onto their wives because of the reflected glory they believe it confers on them - ie., they must be highly desirable too because they attracted such a hyper-horny, big-cock craving, sexual super hero of a wife.. ..Weird.

The bottom line is that dick size is almost never the limiting factor in being a desireable lover. Of far greater importance is the guys overall attractiveness, which will be severely undermined if he his constantly obsessing over dick size.

 

[Sir_Timo_Volodok]

Size matters: the best chemistry (on a purely physical level) of sexual experience comes from a matching up of the sex-organ sizes—compatibility is key.

This.

I've had a significant number of one night stands say I'm the best they've ever had.

I've heard this too and always assumed it was an indictment of the selfishness of my competition, lol.

Buddy of mine (boy, I wish I could claim this story as my own) once had a hookup tell him, "I've never been made love to before." His flippant thought, unshared with her, "You still haven't." Apparently caring about her pleasure as much as his equaled "making love," lol

I guess that means I'm just a pure bred sex god

This is one way to look at it.